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Old 10.05.2007, 04:18 PM   #1
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She should have used iTunes. A woman in Minnesota was fined $220,000 Thursday for file sharing involving 24 songs...WTF? The law has to catch up to technology in a more efficient way, this draconian ruling isn't going to deter anyone.
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Old 10.05.2007, 04:22 PM   #2
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Old 10.05.2007, 04:55 PM   #3
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How shit for her though, i mean look at the "out of print records" thread - i know its morally different, but is it legally?
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Old 10.05.2007, 05:37 PM   #4
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Old 10.05.2007, 06:27 PM   #5
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How shit for her though, i mean look at the "out of print records" thread - i know its morally different, but is it legally?

As far as that thread goes, yes. I very much doubt a small independent label would be willing or have the resources to sue someone for downloading a OOP edition of 100 (or 1,000 or 10,000) record. Very little of what's posted on there comes from corporate monster labels, and even if it is it probably isn't likely to see the light of day again and no one will ever give a rat's posterior.
I think people should definitely respect the owner of the work's wishes if they don't want it shared, though.
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Old 10.05.2007, 06:40 PM   #6
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The news reports here said something about 17,000 songs.
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Old 10.05.2007, 07:27 PM   #7
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The news reports here said something about 17,000 songs.
The labels only acted on 24 songs though.
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Old 10.05.2007, 09:30 PM   #8
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As far as that thread goes, yes. I very much doubt a small independent label would be willing or have the resources to sue someone for downloading a OOP edition of 100 (or 1,000 or 10,000) record. Very little of what's posted on there comes from corporate monster labels, and even if it is it probably isn't likely to see the light of day again and no one will ever give a rat's posterior.
I think people should definitely respect the owner of the work's wishes if they don't want it shared, though.

i myself don't download music, but i am however currently uploading some very hard to get syd barrett era pink floyd......... link anyone
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Old 10.06.2007, 08:03 AM   #9
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Hmm, it definately makes you think though, I download quite a bit of stuff so i do worry about it, but then again what are the chances of them actually prosecuting you?
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Old 10.06.2007, 08:12 AM   #10
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Old 10.07.2007, 10:31 AM   #11
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"Thomas, an employee of the Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe, an Indian tribe, was ordered to pay a 9,250-dollar fine for each of 24 shared songs cited in the case, including Godsmack's "Spiral," Destiny's Child's "Bills, Bills, Bills" and Sara McLachlan's "Building a Mystery."
It could have been a lot worse.
The fine could have reached 150,000 dollars a song if the jury had found "willful" copyright infringement.
Had the record companies sued her for all 1,702 songs found in the online folder the fine could have run in the millions."
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Old 10.07.2007, 02:26 PM   #12
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Yeah, I agree. Man, this sucks big time.

How much fuckin money do record companies want to make...I just don't buy the idea that they are loosing loads of money due to illegal downloads.
The amount of money the record companies and the artists make is totally disgusting, why should they make so much money from just putting out some music...
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Old 10.07.2007, 05:47 PM   #13
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Yeah, I agree. Man, this sucks big time.

How much fuckin money do record companies want to make...I just don't buy the idea that they are loosing loads of money due to illegal downloads.
The amount of money the record companies and the artists make is totally disgusting, why should they make so much money from just putting out some music...

the artists make fuck all from the records, when i was in the industry about 18 cents in each record went to the artist which is very little when the average is $30. touring is where they make the money....
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Old 10.07.2007, 08:53 PM   #14
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We're all safe. The record companies only care about the most popular 15% of music. They only are trying to get people that download popular shit like Nickelback and other such major label puppets.
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Old 10.07.2007, 09:00 PM   #15
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As far as that thread goes, yes. I very much doubt a small independent label would be willing or have the resources to sue someone for downloading a OOP edition of 100 (or 1,000 or 10,000) record. Very little of what's posted on there comes from corporate monster labels, and even if it is it probably isn't likely to see the light of day again and no one will ever give a rat's posterior.
I think people should definitely respect the owner of the work's wishes if they don't want it shared, though.

If only that were completely true. The problem is, the RIAA "represents" many, many artists, and not too few labels even, who aren't asking for their "help". What they are looking at is the activity as traceable from cow towing ISPs much more than the content. I suspect that, yes, they are most interested in pursuing people with a hard-drive full of Britney and Eminem open for others to share than they are the obscure stuff, but don't count on them keeping that close of track. They seem to be web-crawling at random overall.
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