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Originally Posted by louder

sometimes i think i'd consider another song titled "The Message" the best rap song ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws3Ks0FGxYM

that song has blown my mind since the day it was released. "Fake thug, no love, you get the slug, CB4 Gusto" = OMG what an opening line!

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

i love this cover art( if it's that). i dream about LIL B and he's the only new current rapper i could throw a dick at. sweet dreams in based.

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

i agree. anyone between the ages of 15 and 40 know and could come up with a throwup list as that dookie.

99 probs(picks a booger)

the message(digs cheese)

cali love(cuts toe nail then flicks said booger)

RS editors.

*continues to cut nails, sniff cheese and pick boogers*

*searches for a tweezer for an irritating deep nose hair*

"wow this one's blond at the tip"

*saves perfect nose hair in a glass box next to his stacked upright velvet underground first pressing vinyl collection*

seriously. Big Pimpin' isn't even a top 10 Jay-Z song.

Originally Posted by noisereductions

that song has blown my mind since the day it was released. "Fake thug, no love, you get the slug, CB4 Gusto" = OMG what an opening line!

yesssssss!

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been listening to Lil B all day. i think that his most memorable songs came out in the first couple of years of his solo career (I'm God, I'm a Martian, Pretty Bitch, B.O.R, T-Shirt & Buddens, etc). still dig everything he does though.

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well, except for the classical music attempts. haha.

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Originally Posted by louder

well, except for the classical music attempts. haha.

lulz. Was pretty bad. Would've been better had he called it "new age" instead of "classical."

[Derek]

Yeah, it's just shitty keyboard ambient that he already did on 'Rain in England'.

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new James Blake single is so good.

also, i just found that Justin Timberlake dropped a new, 8-min single. woah.

still need to hear it.

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so i finally checked it out. shyt's much better than Suit & Tie. wow. on repeat atm.

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new Tyler single is dope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4OD3IHs5jU&list=UUvvMe-A4FbvtMk-V_vE9PpQ&index=1

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

I was listening to Makaveli The Seven Day Theory and comparing it Jesus Piece and realized Game made an EPIC failure. Tupac eloquently and intelligently yet sincerely street blends faith, religion, and thug life like David in the Psalter. He is not ever misogynistic or sacrilegious, just honest about his doubts and fears which we all share together. Jesus Piece was a cool idea for a concept, but in all actuality failed miserably. I respect Game for trying to put his faith into his music, but I was more successful on tracks like Let Us Live, Letter to the King, and Why You Hate the Game...

I actually found Jesus Piece to be a bit more insulting after digesting a few times, a significant let down compared to tracks like the above three I mentioned..

Props to Tupac, nobody will every bridge the gap between street and faith without coming across as blasphemous or pretentious..

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I agree it was a failure for what he intended, but I really enjoyed the album nonetheless. I find The Game fascinating no matter what the results.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

I agree it was a failure for what he intended, but I really enjoyed the album nonetheless. I find The Game fascinating no matter what the results.

True dat. Just listening to that Seven Day Theory is what reminded me of just how much a gem Tupac really was to ALL music, not just rap. Very few artists can navigate a life of sin with a life of faith, and yet that is exactly what REAL life is about isn't it? Not glorifying violence or crass materialism, but reflecting your daily realities gritty, boring, or all in between. Tupac simply spoke the real. The Seven Day Theory is such an epic album for that. It is political, it is spiritual, it is an activist album, it promotes family, women, it asks for forgiveness offering an apology without a cop-out explanation. Simply put, it was Tupac expressing himself, and many of us relate to his experiences. Like King David in the Psalms, its not always a PG movie, and even religious people are seldom if ever near perfect, generally quite the opposite, but the dignity of being a human being is having the ability to carry on forward, and grow, mature, and evolve. In that sense, Seven Day Theory is an evolution, where as compared to Let Us Live or Why You Hate The Game, Jesus Piece is a few steps backwards, though I must admit, equally honest. I think where Game fucked up is trying to consciously make this a concept album, rather than just speaking his heart as in previous albums. Seven Day Theory is NOT a concept album, it is just the natural progression of where Tupac and the Outlawz were going after the All Eyez On Me studio sessions which gave birth to the legendary Makaveli Bootlegs.

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yup. Agree w/ every word you said. Yes.

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btw, my fav Pac album is still Me Against The World though. I think the most devastatingly real and sad line he ever wrote was:

"I've been really wanting babies / so I can see a part of me that wasn't always shady"

...that always kills me.

Remember how young he was writing that line, man. Tragic.

and earlier in that track: "my every move is a calculated step / to bring me closer to embracing an early death."

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

new Tyler single is dope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4OD3IHs5jU&list=UUvvMe-A4FbvtMk-V_vE9PpQ&index=1

the single was alright. but that transition to that Bimmer song at the end amazed me. beautiful (even though it's nothing he hasn't done before). i'm excited for Wolf.

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I really just bump the Makaveli era more than anything. It seems like we only got glimpses of Pac on his Tupac shit, but when he went full out I think the real Tupac, heart and soul, came out in the person of Makaveli. Then again, 18 or 19 albums worth of raps mostly recorded in less than a year's time might have that effect

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Originally Posted by louder

the single was alright. but that transition to that Bimmer song at the end amazed me. beautiful (even though it's nothing he hasn't done before). i'm excited for Wolf.

yeah that's easily the best part of the song. Like I was all "oh good song," and then that transition happened and I was like "ok, awesome song and now I want the album."

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

I really just bump the Makaveli era more than anything. It seems like we only got glimpses of Pac on his Tupac shit, but when he went full out I think the real Tupac, heart and soul, came out in the person of Makaveli. Then again, 18 or 19 albums worth of raps mostly recorded in less than a year's time might have that effect

you're far more familiar with the Mak boots than I am... how much of that material was released (Better Dayz, Until The End Of Time, etc) in some form?

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Indigoism rules my world atm.

 

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

you're far more familiar with the Mak boots than I am... how much of that material was released (Better Dayz, Until The End Of Time, etc) in some form?

Here is the list
Almost half of it has been released in all the post-humous Makaveli and Tupac "legit" albums but they are all remixes. The "bootlegs" were initially an LA only thing, you grabbed em at the Compton Swapmeet which is in the MOB neighborhood. These were all made by the Outlawz from 48 hours of tape that Tupac had been rapping on. A lot of those tapes were acapella free-styles, raps, and notes that Pac had put on tape and the Outlawz later had produced and they rapped on it. Others are "out-takes" from earlier studio sessions. However, the Outlawz mixes from the bootlegs better reflect the sound and vibe that Tupac would have wanted, they sound like Tupac albums. A lot of the later reissues have also been remixed to avoid legal battles with the other artists who worked on the bootleg versions, and so they don't necessarily sound like Pac. So I stick with the boots which are not readily available in the internet age. In 1999, they were like solid gold.