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Old 10.03.2006, 10:14 PM   #1
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The avant-garde commununity is not too big... how come some names such as Marclay and Mori have been performing with SY and Zorn... yet there is no collaborations between the two "legends"?
Is there some kind of bad blood or opinion differences?
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Old 10.04.2006, 12:08 AM   #3
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i was thinking this the other day too actually..is there any relationship between them? I know that in the late 70s early 80s Zorn etc was in the older crowd than the SY guys...But you'd think that at least by now they would have collaborated
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Old 10.04.2006, 03:40 AM   #4
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I'm not sure that Zorn and SY mix in the same circles all that much. Members of SY have played at Tonic (that did used to be run by Zorn, didn't it?), but I think that's as close a link as could be drawn between the two.

There used to be two fairly distinct alt-musical scenes in NY, I think, and there wasn't a great amount of crossover between them. Possibly there's some kind of a hangover from that, or maybe SY have just built up better links with other saxophonists (e.g. the guys from Borbetomagus).
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Old 10.04.2006, 05:52 AM   #5
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i have a vid of thurston with zorn....new music cafe,ny 1990
so they kinda sorta got together.........
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Old 10.04.2006, 05:56 AM   #6
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I still have an edition of the South Bank Show featuring Zorn & Sonic Youth from about 1990 on video. At one point Thurston picks up a Zorn CD and tells the interviewer they should do a programme about him.
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:02 AM   #7
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he also says...he should put it in his trade pile cuz "times change"
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:13 AM   #8
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he also says...he should put it in his trade pile cuz "times change"

Is this widely available, because it's a great little film.
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:15 AM   #9
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Sadly not, although I think it turns up quite a lot on the download sites, and there's a bootleg DVD of it for sale on ebay at the moment.
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:22 AM   #10
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Sadly not, although I think it turns up quite a lot on the download sites, and there's a bootleg DVD of it for sale on ebay at the moment.

Have you seen it?
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:25 AM   #11
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Many many years ago, yes, when it was on the South Bank Show, but I can remember bits of it quite well.
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:28 AM   #12
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I'm watching it right now. Great, slightly awkward conversation between SY and John Cale.
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:30 AM   #13
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Old 10.04.2006, 06:37 AM   #14
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Old 10.04.2006, 07:01 AM   #15
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It would be so much better on a big screen though, wouldn't it?

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Old 10.06.2006, 01:09 AM   #16
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I was just thinking about this today. I would pay unhealthy amounts of cold hard cash for a SY/Zorn collaboration.

and sheesh! It's not like Zorn doesn't have the money for it now! The MacArthur Foundation gave him $500,000 dollars in a genius grant.
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Old 10.06.2006, 11:04 AM   #17
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I'm not aware of SY and Zorn's collaboration, but Thurston definitelly played with him.
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Old 10.06.2006, 11:18 AM   #18
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Old 10.06.2006, 01:37 PM   #19
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The need of this collaboration doesn't seem to make entire sense to me, i dunno Zorn kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth sometimes (i.e. the 20 billion unnecessary Masada releases is one such example!) it would be interesting if it were like circa 1990 again but these days Zorn is in pretty different territory than SY. i dunno thats just my opinion. though i give him major kudos w/ opening The Stone!

Zorn's best material was circa the early 80's when he did those game pieces and scores when he was sorta the Maruicio Kagel of the lower downtown improv nyc scene... nowadays nearly everything he does i have little interest in hearing. even the Tzadik label which will have quite a few amazing recordings just releases too much pretentious shit as well.
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Old 10.06.2006, 01:39 PM   #20
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Zorn is lame.

Stephen Colbert should've got that genius grant.
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