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Old 11.13.2011, 07:55 PM   #1
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Old 11.13.2011, 09:28 PM   #2
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Hipsters around here tend to change their musical interests every two weeks. Give it a month and they'll probably love 'em some jam bands.
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Old 11.13.2011, 10:12 PM   #3
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Depending on how Pitchforkmedia feels about jam bands that month.
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Old 11.14.2011, 10:28 AM   #4
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becaue hipster is a media word that has no meaning, really, and typically used by lazy self loathing jerks who need to express their selfhatred against people who are socially adjusted enough to have some fun. It is just a tactic the Spectacle uses to smear youth, lke the Spectacle has been doing for decades...
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Old 11.14.2011, 03:10 PM   #5
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becaue hipster is a media word that has no meaning, really, and typically used by lazy self loathing jerks who need to express their selfhatred against people who are socially adjusted enough to have some fun. It is just a tactic the Spectacle uses to smear youth, lke the Spectacle has been doing for decades...

I've lived in college towns my whole life. Trust me... hipsters are real. As real as any other music-derived fanbase. As real as Dead-heads and Beatlemaniacs.

Also, I don't hate myself. Nor do I hate hipsters. Just curious why the two obviously existent fanbases so rarely overlap.
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Old 11.14.2011, 03:51 PM   #6
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I've lived in college towns my whole life. Trust me... hipsters are real. As real as any other music-derived fanbase. As real as Dead-heads and Beatlemaniacs.

Also, I don't hate myself. Nor do I hate hipsters. Just curious why the two obviously existent fanbases so rarely overlap.

I've lived in enough places to know that there will always be young people who don't follow the Spectacle required normed styles - when I was young the expressions used were art fags and hippies and punks. There is always a demeaning expression being used. Now its hipsters. But it doesn't mean anything. So your question doesn't mean anything, unless you want to offer a definition of hipster.
I did find the expression hipster used relating to some 60's groovy cats preLSd era.
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Old 11.14.2011, 05:26 PM   #7
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I think hipsters dislike different jam bands for different reasons. For example, hipsters dislike the Dave Matthews Band for different reasons than Phish.
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Old 11.14.2011, 07:31 PM   #8
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I've lived in enough places to know that there will always be young people who don't follow the Spectacle required normed styles - when I was young the expressions used were art fags and hippies and punks. There is always a demeaning expression being used. Now its hipsters. But it doesn't mean anything. So your question doesn't mean anything, unless you want to offer a definition of hipster.
I did find the expression hipster used relating to some 60's groovy cats preLSd era.


Whoah, it's not demeaning! Not meant to be, anyway.

Listen- most people would probably call me a hipster (though an aging one). Yes, I recall "art fag", and "punk" precedes me. But I've been called a hipster for years, and I've never considered it an insult. There was a time when I was called a punk, too, and a "goth" (which really stung). But I realize that I'm probably a hipster in truth.

Listen, I'm not using it in that way. No insult was meant.
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Old 11.14.2011, 07:34 PM   #9
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Old 11.15.2011, 12:28 AM   #10
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Old 11.15.2011, 01:46 AM   #11
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why does anybody like jam bands is a better question.
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Old 11.18.2011, 04:03 PM   #14
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I think the real question is "why don't jamsters like hippie bands?"
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I think the real question is "why don't jamsters like hippie bands?"

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Old 11.19.2011, 04:23 PM   #16
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Or why hippie jam bands don't like free-jazz/skronk type jam bands?

or vice versa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85AiIWiYnY4

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a lot of it has to do with whether people see their contemporary jam-based artform in a continuom connected to late 60's/70's rock improvisation informed to varying degrees by blues/folk/jazz/ethnic sources and traditions focused on relatively traditional forms of beauty and tonality in it's many wondrous forms, or they see their contemporary jam- no, i mean improvisation, he quickly insisted -based artform connected to punk/postpunk/avantgarde movements (comprising their own traditions by this point) focused on deconstruction/rejection-of-tradition/wiping-the-slate-clean and atonality in all it's wondrous forms. of course there is some crossover and blending between these two strains of thought/schools of practise (perhaps from each of their very beginnings), much to the chagrin of orthodox jammers on both sides of the aisle...
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