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Old 11.13.2011, 06:12 PM   #1
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Not starting a flame war or trying to be a dick but I'm just interested exactly what the reasons for her fanbase was.

I mean, in my opinion, she is the weakest musician in the band, her art has no complexity and her feminist ideals seem shallow and vapid. So what is it about her?
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Old 11.13.2011, 06:16 PM   #2
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r u jealous?
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Old 11.13.2011, 07:18 PM   #3
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1. She's incredibly hot... before I got married I told my wife that I would fuck Kim if I ever had the opportunity. She consented.
2. Voice.
3. She's written some incredible lyrics, and vocal melodies, amelodic though many may be. She's a female Lou Reed with a better social circle (see LULU thread)
4. She's a kind person, and was gracious and humble and conversational when I met her.

Also, I don't think she's vapid. I think she's a dreamy, dreary art-school girl. I've known many of them. They may not be the quickest of human beings on the surface, but they have a lot to offer the world.

As far as her musical ability is concerned, yeah- she's not a virtuoso. She's passable. But she's still a brilliant musician.
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Old 11.13.2011, 07:41 PM   #4
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Attitude. Style. Creativity trumping technical ability.
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Old 11.13.2011, 07:51 PM   #5
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Kim Althea Gordon (born April 28, 1953, Rochester, New York[1]) is an American musician, vocalist, artist, record producer, video director and actress. She has sung and played bass and guitar in the alternative rock band Sonic Youth, and in Free Kitten with Julia Cafritz (of Pussy Galore). Gordon has collaborated with a number of musicians, including Ikue Mori, DJ Olive, William Winant, Lydia Lunch, Courtney Love, Alan Licht and Chris Corsano.
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Old 11.13.2011, 09:09 PM   #6
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she's what every woman should be. If that moaning and groaning in "Eliminator Jr" doesn't turn you on, then you are not a man.

Agreed, double agreed, and quoted for truth.

Hey Kim, I'm a rich-poor boy! Might I do the same??
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Old 11.13.2011, 09:27 PM   #7
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Eliminator Jr is about a girl that got raped. Kim's vocals are pretty sexy on that one though
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Old 11.13.2011, 09:33 PM   #8
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Take A Walk In The Park Shhhhit Yeaaaah
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Old 11.13.2011, 09:50 PM   #9
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Just watch the 1983 Poiters performance of making the nature scene.
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Old 11.13.2011, 09:56 PM   #10
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What DON'T I like about Kim.
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Old 11.13.2011, 09:59 PM   #11
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She's just very...herself. She's not the most talented musician, and she knows it completely and is unapologetic about it.
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Old 11.14.2011, 04:32 AM   #12
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To me each member of SY is as important. I think in SY really is hard to say what certain invidual do in it. On the other hand I think its not totally impossible to replace anyone of them, maybe Thurston is the one that is not very easy to replace.
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Old 11.14.2011, 06:58 AM   #13
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Well, she's beautiful, makes great lyrics, poetry, art and play in the best fucking band in the whole world.
Nuff said.
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Old 11.14.2011, 10:08 AM   #14
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a lot of her bass lines are simple but perfect.
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Old 11.14.2011, 10:17 AM   #15
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Her voice is an irriplacable part of many of the best sonic youth songs in my opinion.... plus I saw sonic youth back in the day and they could not have been better.
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Old 11.14.2011, 10:24 AM   #16
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I saw them "back in the day" (relatively) and recently, and many times in between. The era doesn't matter, Kim is as vital to SY as Thurston or Lee. She is an integral part of their sound.

Another Beatles comparison- sorry - but she's SY's Mccartney. No, it's not Lee. He's the Harrison... the musical genius who occasionally gets tossed a song to sing that blows everyone away. But Kim is absolutely essential for SY.

They couldn't replace her, no more than the Beatles could have reunited in the 90s without John. No more than Nirvana can reunite.
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Old 11.16.2011, 03:20 AM   #17
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Title says it all really. What are you sick of in modern games? and what would you like to see in new ones?
Im famously sick of FMV, voiceovers, fullscreen-only games, busty elves, RPG and cyberpunk cliches etc etc. What about you?
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Old 11.16.2011, 03:55 AM   #18
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Old 11.16.2011, 05:07 AM   #19
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Old 11.16.2011, 06:54 AM   #20
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I think her "feminist" ideals are very solid and despite having an influence on her writing, she hasn't necessarily been writing them as a political statement, it's still very much art. I could totally relate to it when I was younger. Sadly, I often get this impression from SY fans, nobody has been listening to these messages. In general, people like the fact that she is herself. As for being the weakest musician, probably from a technical point of view, but I don't believe that is the most important aspect of it all. Her contribution has been essential.
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