[max]

Most probably none of you cares about this shit, but I wanted to voice it out loud.

This is the absolute worst side of human beings. Lowlife scum doing a "movie" to cash some easy bucks killing animals on screen, and exploiting the real indigenous peoples in Brazil whose names were used in the movie – the yanomamo and shamatari – who are not fierce enemies as portrayed in the movie, nor is either tribe truly cannibalistic.

Fuck this shit and anyone who appreciates it.
This is not horror, it's dementia.

[Savage Clone]

I thought this was required viewing for all Italian schoolchildren.

[max]

seeing how fucked up italy currently is, I think many of them might have been schooled by shit like that.

did this make the news already in the US?

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/inter...lpepuint_3/Tes

EL PAÍS publishes the pictures taken by Antonello Zappadu in Villa Certosa in May 2008. The faces of the protagonists were blurred by the author except that of the Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by max

did this make the news already in the US?

no idea, but I like what I see! if the girl in the boots and thong was a cannibal, I'd totally feed myself to her.

 

[atsonicpark]

Never saw the big deal with this movie, never understood why people call it a classic. It didn't shock me or bother me, it just kinda bored me.

If it made you angry, though, I guess the filmmakers accomplished their goal...

[phoenix]

haven't seen it.. by the sounds I dont think I'd enjoy it. I am... passionate about animal rights.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by max

This is not horror, it's dementia.

yr half-right. It's not horror. It's mondo.

[atsonicpark]

Speaking of mondo.. and animal deaths!... SOmeone talked to me about John Water's "Mondo Trasho" the other day. This was made 41 years ago and there are chickens heads being cut off. He was saying how pissed off it made him. I said "Come on man, 41 years ago -- don't you think those chickens would be dead by now anyway?"

I was just kidding, but it made ME think... people change a lot over the course of 41 years. I highly doubt the John Waters of today would kill a chicken for a movie. Of course, all those years ago, it was for shock value... (like having an actress eat dog shit) That doesn't excuse it, but look how many animals die senselessly daily for reasons other than "art". I'm sure all these filmmakers felt justified with whatever they were doing. It was a different time then than today...

Regardless, it's still offensive and brutal to watch to a lot of people, in any era. For whatever reason, there was a lot of animal deaths in all those Italian cannibal films. See also: Cannibal Ferox, Jungle Holocaust, and Slave of the Cannibal God. I'm sure this was a bit more acceptable in the 70's and in Italy than we find it present-day in (wherever you're from). They're products of their time, definitely. And if you want to see these movies without the animal deaths, those versions usually exist too. My girlfriend watched Cannibal Holocaust with me the one time I watched it and she went "ewwwww' at the turtle being cut open. I'm sure this was some "moral point" trying to be made by the filmmaker... "you will gladly watch a girl getting raped and a pole shoved inside of her -- why do you now look away
at REAL animal deaths?" Either way... it sucks.

[Kannibal]

oh.

[Sonic Youth 37]

^ The chicken death is worse in Pink Flamingos.

[noisereductions]

Adam, don't forget the Faces Of Death stuff. A lot of animal deaths in those too.

[atsonicpark]

Faces of Death videos were so pointless. Mostly fake stuff, with animal deaths, and Bud Dwyer shooting himself. At least the host of those was creepy.

TRACES of Death are much better. Heh...

[wellcharge]

from what i read,the animals they killed in those movies were fed to the locals who were going to kill and eat them anyways

i don't think it's such a big deal that they decided to film it, and it misrepresents the local tribes yeah, but i don't think it's a problem unless people think it's real

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by wellcharge

but i don't think it's a problem unless people think it's real

well.. people... are stupid.

[phoenix]

I didn't even really know what to reply to what you said there, apart from that.

When do people NOT believe everything they see/read to be true... Most of the time this happens...

[wellcharge]

the movie isn't portrayed as being true, it's a horror, and the point of the movie at the end is that the media is lying.

if this is an issue people should be much more worried about kiplings jungle book, which is considered a classic and read to children, not a bmovie that movie that people watch when they want to see guts

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

John Waters said that after filming the chicken death scene in Pink Flamingos; they cooked, and ate the bird. Plus, the chicken became a movie star...which is a whole lot better than what happens to most chickens.

I'd assume that the same went for the chickens killed in Mondo Trasho. If the chickens go to good use, and end up living eternally through the magic of the cinema, I can't really say that I object Waters' opinion on the subject.

As far as Cannibal holocaust is concerned:

 

Cannibal Holocaust is overrated. However, the controversy STILL surrounding the film really goes to show that the film really did succeed in shocking it's audience. The highlights (few and far between) of the film are absolutely horrific, despite a majority of the brutality being staged.

"Cannibal Holocaust is not merely focused on the societal taboo of flesh eating. The greater theme of the film is the difference between the civilized and the uncivilized. Though the graphic violence can be hard for most to stomach, the most disturbing aspect of the film is what Deodato is saying about modern society. The film asks the questions 'What is it to be 'civilized'?' and 'Is it a good thing?'"

- Carter, David. "Savage Cinema". Savage Cinema. http://www.savagecinema.com/cannibalholocaust.html.

[max]

well, first one off: they certainly didn't succeed in shocking me, as I am not part of the audience, and never will be. what I realize harder now than ever before, is that people is beyond stupidity: it's incredible how senseless the human race is.

would that be art, juts because countless other animals are slaughtered every fucking day so some millions of fat idiots can chew on their mc-shit?
why not question the whole fucking thing instead?

"yeah I raped that girl on movie, what the hell, there's lotsa other rapes every day - I made that girl a star"... the youtube-myspace-sicko fucker mentality / attitude that George A. Romero depicted so well thru his filmography.

secondly, the so called "director" of that pile of crap stated they "only wanted to make a movie about cannibals".

third, it has turd-master luca barbareschi in it, the right wing scumbag mofo who joined berlusconi's party when it became clear no one would ever produce his ridiculous attempts at cinema anymore.

[Lamont Cranston]

Originally Posted by max

seeing how fucked up italy currently is, I think many of them might have been schooled by shit like that.

did this make the news already in the US?

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/inter...lpepuint_3/Tes

EL PAÍS publishes the pictures taken by Antonello Zappadu in Villa Certosa in May 2008. The faces of the protagonists were blurred by the author except that of the Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi.

Focus on private/personal misdeeds like this usually mean that there are crimes of state going on, but aren't a concern of the other half of political power or their business backers.
Consider the USA: no concerns about Yugoslavia, destroying a phamacutical factory in Sudan, etc - but so much attention on one little White House intern...

[demonrail666]

CH is a pretty stupid film. It's entertaining once but hardly warrants subsequent viewings. Those Berlusconi photos are far more appealing. In fact, I think I'll be looking at the one mr Slowly posted quite a lot.