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Old 03.18.2013, 05:41 PM   #201
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Anyone else surprised by the negativity surrounding Chelsea Light Moving? Almost every review I've read has been indifferent at best, critical at worst.

If these songs had formed the bulk of a new Sonic Youth album I bet they'd have been received differently.
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Old 03.18.2013, 07:40 PM   #202
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Anyone else surprised by the negativity surrounding Chelsea Light Moving? Almost every review I've read has been indifferent at best, critical at worst.

If these songs had formed the bulk of a new Sonic Youth album I bet they'd have been received differently.


yeah, well thats because it doesn't sound like a shitty art school fart school project. you know, kim moaning and lee dicking around on a guitar and all.

in other words......sonic youth were nothing but an art school fart school college art project for kim and lee. besides, kim wasn't even an musician, but a so-called artist. and lee was a fucking pothead Deadhead dicking around on his axe.


Thruston was the true upper upper middle class geek that wanted to rock. the rest of sonic youth were just art school fart school fags trying to expand upon their art career. kim and lee never would've took punk rock seriously and would have continued to look at it through their postmodern ironic art filter if not for Thurston.


except steve.

nuff said.
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Old 03.18.2013, 07:42 PM   #203
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Anyone else surprised by the negativity surrounding Chelsea Light Moving? Almost every review I've read has been indifferent at best, critical at worst.

If these songs had formed the bulk of a new Sonic Youth album I bet they'd have been received differently.

I don't think that's true. Some SY records have gotten negative reviews.
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Old 03.18.2013, 07:42 PM   #204
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They've been playing a couple of new songs. "No Go" and "Sunday Stage"". You can listen to both here: http://southernshelter.com/2013/03/o...3-08-the-earl/ and here: http://www.nyctaper.com/2013/03/chel...cmp3streaming/

At the Maxwell's show, he mistakenly referred to "Sunday Stage" as "Space Station." Of course, he was joking. It was pretty damn funny.
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Old 03.19.2013, 05:21 AM   #205
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having given it a fair few listens, I'm still really unsure as to how I feel about this album. it's really enjoyable, and I really respect thurston for just going at it and making the most conventionally 'rock' album of his career, but therein lies the problem: it just feels a bit pedestrian to me, like it's unnecessarily heavy at points and not nearly as melodically rich as anything he's done before.

live, though, I have no doubt that they would blow my fucking balls off.
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Old 03.19.2013, 09:16 PM   #206
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Anyone else surprised by the negativity surrounding Chelsea Light Moving? Almost every review I've read has been indifferent at best, critical at worst.

If these songs had formed the bulk of a new Sonic Youth album I bet they'd have been received differently.

Hmm. I don't think I've read more than 1 explicitly negative review. I think there have only been one or two wholly positive ones, though, so maybe you're right.

But I wouldn't pay a great deal of attention to whatever Pitchfork has to say about it. They seem honor bound to give every Sonic Youth solo album/side project the same kind of non-committal 5.5-6.9 review usually reserved for Pearl Jam love albums and Coldplay records.

Last Sonic Youth-related review I read was of Between the Times & the Tides, which I felt they totally glossed over, thoughtlessly missing nuances and subtleties, and summing up the album in a very "I haven't heard it, but I'll bet I can swing this; deadline's tomorrow anyway!" Kind of way. I really hope they didn't attempt a review of Smart Bar.

Chelsea Light Moving might be the best post-breakup Sonic Youth-related album yet. Maybe even the best sy related non-sy album yet. I can't get enough of it.
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Old 03.20.2013, 01:08 PM   #207
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Old 03.20.2013, 09:02 PM   #208
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Chelsea Light Moving might be the best post-breakup Sonic Youth-related album yet. Maybe even the best sy related non-sy album yet. I can't get enough of it.

1. They are not broken up.

2. Best SY related non-SY album? Maybe. I have yet to hear the Body / Head releases so I can't really say that I agree or disagree. Better than Rather Ripped? Yes. Better than The Eternal? In some ways and in some ways not. And I prefer Demolished Thoughts to CLM, honestly.
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Old 03.21.2013, 01:07 PM   #209
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yeah, well thats because it doesn't sound like a shitty art school fart school project. you know, kim moaning and lee dicking around on a guitar and all.

in other words......sonic youth were nothing but an art school fart school college art project for kim and lee. besides, kim wasn't even an musician, but a so-called artist. and lee was a fucking pothead Deadhead dicking around on his axe.


Thruston was the true upper upper middle class geek that wanted to rock. the rest of sonic youth were just art school fart school fags trying to expand upon their art career. kim and lee never would've took punk rock seriously and would have continued to look at it through their postmodern ironic art filter if not for Thurston.


except steve.

nuff said.

I cannot believe a fan of Sonic Youth would feel this way. That is horrific. Sonic Youth is the sum of it's parts. That's why sonic youth is amazing. The different personalities that you hear in different songs. It's part of why they're my favorite band. Kim is my personal hero. Lee wrote some of the best sy lyrics. Steve is an incredible drummer and him joining the band made a huge impact on the way they sounded. Thurston is of course incredible but I'm sure he would be shocked to see that someone who listens to his music would think this way of the people he has spent the last 30 years of his life with.

and on a side note doesn't anybody else like Free Kitten?
That is my favorite Non-Sonic band that a member started. I'm cool with Chelsea Light Moving- it's like Thurston's Free Kitten that happened to start while they are on hiatus. That's the only reason it made me feel weird and I guess is making the rest of us uncertain about SY's future.

Just think of it as his solo shit got a band name. That's what he said in an interview basically. That was the band that traveled with him as Thurston Moore but he just prefers to be in a band "it feels like being in a gang."

Chelsea light moving is a very good band. I just saw them in Atlanta with Merchandise. They were awesome. Groovy and Linda is officially MY SONNNGG.

I am really stoked that Chelsea Light Moving is touring and playing shows with underground up and coming bands like Merchandise and Grass Widow-and they are playing clubs. It's awesome. Keith Morris is doing this with OFF. It makes me proud of Thurston. This is the way to do it. It's not like they're starting out at the Variety Playhouse - they're playing the earl. It's cool. AND the record is like 15 bucks with a 5 dollar 7". That is awesome.

NOW here's the serious part. When am I gonna get a new Free Kitten album and tour - KIM?
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Old 03.22.2013, 12:03 PM   #210
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I prefer Demolished Thoughts to CLM, honestly.

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Old 03.22.2013, 06:47 PM   #211
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I cannot believe a fan of Sonic Youth would feel this way. That is horrific. Sonic Youth is the sum of it's parts. That's why sonic youth is amazing. The different personalities that you hear in different songs. It's part of why they're my favorite band. Kim is my personal hero. Lee wrote some of the best sy lyrics. Steve is an incredible drummer and him joining the band made a huge impact on the way they sounded. Thurston is of course incredible but I'm sure he would be shocked to see that someone who listens to his music would think this way of the people he has spent the last 30 years of his life with.

i've clearly been owned.
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Old 03.22.2013, 10:33 PM   #212
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NOW here's the serious part. When am I gonna get a new Free Kitten album and tour - KIM?

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Old 03.23.2013, 04:42 AM   #213
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Finally got the vinyl! As the other solos I think this isnīt also as great as SY-records, but already in the second listening I started to love it! I really like the "Fuck you all"-attidude in album (itīs same kind like Cave had with Grinderman). I think thereīs nothing artificial like Thurston trying to be younger he is, heīs just angry old man. And this album really proves me Thurston just do what he wants. When Lee is using nostalgia but sounding himself of the year 2012 in Between the Times, this album really sounds as if it would have been made in the nineties (the name could have been Psychic Hearts vol.2). And itīs kind of weird and amazing! It seems Thurston made a circle, itīs interesting whatīs heīs going to do next in his solo career.

Although I donīt believe Lee has thought any commercial things when doing Between-album, there really is a lot more commercial potential in Leeīs solo as this Chelsea album. I donīt believe anybody superficial listener starts to listen Thurston if hearing this. My favourites at the moment are Lip, Sleeping where I fall and Mohawk (the greatest moment of the album, I think itīs first time when Velvet Underground and SY truly meets). Also I really like the 7", the most beautiful song of the album in the a-side & the punkiest in B-side. And in my version there is also CD. I think this album will grow more after more listening, I listened Leeīs Between maybe little over 10 times but I havenīt got any need to listen it a long time. Well, I think I will listen it also someday.

Very hard to say is this better than Demolished, because I still love it also, but I think thereīs is no need to say which is better because these are so different albums.

I donīt really wonder why there arenīt lots of great reviews, because Chelsea is so out of this time. The music journalists of today seem to have trend that if the old artists do album they want and not trying to put there influences from the current music, heīs just an old fart (maybe critics are afraid the colleagues say them old farts if they like such an album). I think for example Caleīs latest album would have been better, if he hadnīt tried to put there so much "fresh influences". Of course itīs not totally bad.
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Old 03.23.2013, 11:16 AM   #214
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Exactly, it is a bit like Thurston's Grinderman, relatively speaking
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1. They are not broken up.

2. Best SY related non-SY album? Maybe. I have yet to hear the Body / Head releases so I can't really say that I agree or disagree. Better than Rather Ripped? Yes. Better than The Eternal? In some ways and in some ways not. And I prefer Demolished Thoughts to CLM, honestly.


1. Yeah, they are. Unfortunately. I'm pretty sure you're in denial.

2. Not better than RR or The Eternal.
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I didn't like the album at all.

But, then again, I've never liked any of Thurston's solo material, so I guess that's no great surprise.

(Love Lee's record, for what it's worth.)
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1. Yeah, they are. Unfortunately. I'm pretty sure you're in denial.

2. Not better than RR or The Eternal.

1. You call it being in denial, but I am a hopeless optimist in general. But same thing I guess.

2. In my opinion, the only good songs are Reena, Incinerate (overrated but still a good song), Do You Believe In Rapture (kind of), Jams Run Free, Turquoise Boy and Pink Steam. They rest either just okay or awful. And personally I have a lot of mixed feelings about The Eternal.
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1. You call it being in denial, but I am a hopeless optimist in general. But same thing I guess.

2. In my opinion, the only good songs are Reena, Incinerate (overrated but still a good song), Do You Believe In Rapture (kind of), Jams Run Free, Turquoise Boy and Pink Steam. They rest either just okay or awful. And personally I have a lot of mixed feelings about The Eternal.

We all have mixed feelings about the Eternal, friend. But RR is a solid album, even if it took several listens for me to see/hear it as such. I don't believe there is a bad track to be found on the album, but that's just me.
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