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flashlight69 04.20.2012 12:22 PM

i really like the record. is this really a pop record? i mean xtina is really vicious.

Mortte Jousimo 04.22.2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by flashlight69
i really like the record. is this really a pop record? i mean xtina is really vicious.

Pop could also be vicious (listen for example the first Cure albums and I think also the later material of the Cure really isnīt typical pop).

Anyway to me itīs the same how Lee new album music is called, I just love it!

eternal 04.24.2012 04:22 PM

i got my vinyl copy and it sounds great...much less of the muffled sound from the MP3s i had. not to mention i love the artwork

my favourite song is still Xtina, but all the others are pretty great. love the Lost chorus/verse transitions as well as Hammer Blows. Surprisingly, Shouts is probably my least favourite (despite being Canadian and a hockey fanatic) but its still a nice tune and i love that weird theremin-like instrument in the bridge.

The Soup Nazi 04.24.2012 04:54 PM

Robert Christgau's review:

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Lee Ranaldo: Between the Time and the Tides (Matador)

 


Never much of a singer even by Sonic Youth standards and always abrasive solo, Ranaldo applies his best-in-band chops to riffage and filigree so lovely his well-meaning and far from altogether tuneless plainsong has the welcome effect of situating the guitar in the same reality occupied by his lyrics, which always make sense and often seem a mere detail away from total lucidity. Throughout he recaptures the repose of A Thousand Leaves's "Hoarfrost," his will to reconciliation and renewal always palpable whether the songs reach out or recalibrate his options. Just the album you'd hope from a thoughtful 56-year-old after his band of 30 years breaks up. Best in show is "Angles," a love song to someone he knows well and can always stand to know better. Not a bandmate, either. A MINUS

stu666 04.25.2012 04:26 AM

Lee Ranaldo Between The Times & The Tides release party performance & interview

http://vimeo.com/40275980

Lee Ranaldo discusses his first solo 'songs' album and performs two of its tracks on acoustic guitar in the loft of SoHo's MORRISON HOTEL GALLERY.

(thanks for this video Chris!)

Chris Lawrence 04.27.2012 02:42 PM

Does anyone know why the mp3 of "Lost" included in the free download w/ the LP is titled "Lost (Plane T Nice)"? I can't find reference to this anywhere in the LP sleeve, but maybe there's something on the CD?

After all of the "Agnello thump" discussion above, I'm a little embarrassed to note that closer review of the liner notes reveals the album was produced by Lee and Agnello, yet recorded by Aaron with LR and others. Agnello mixed it with assistance from Aaron, but I still maintain that the overall "thumpiness" is a sound typically associated with Agnello. If someone wants to split hairs re: producing vs recording, be my guest...

Still really love the album! People are obviously entitled not to like it, but I wonder what those outraged by its pop/rock sensibilities were expecting? All of the solo "song-based" tracks Lee released over the years (almost all covers, of course) should have been some indication as to his non-SY sensibilities...

Pelle 04.27.2012 06:34 PM

Was there a free download with the LP?
Totally missed this...did u get any card or what? Cause I didn't get anything :S

stu666 04.27.2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelle
Was there a free download with the LP?
Totally missed this...did u get any card or what? Cause I didn't get anything :S


only in the USA

blunderbuss 04.28.2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu666
Lee Ranaldo Between The Times & The Tides release party performance & interview

http://vimeo.com/40275980

Lee Ranaldo discusses his first solo 'songs' album and performs two of its tracks on acoustic guitar in the loft of SoHo's MORRISON HOTEL GALLERY.

(thanks for this video Chris!)


This is much more what I had imagined Lee's "singer-songwriter" album would be, and I'd love Between The Times & The Tides all the more intensely if this was what it was like.

Mortte Jousimo 04.28.2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelle
Was there a free download with the LP?
Totally missed this...did u get any card or what? Cause I didn't get anything :S

I got also that download card... but I ordered it straight from Matador.

Pelle 04.28.2012 08:12 AM

Hmm pretty wierd that I didn't got any...my copy was imported and sealed...

hypertonic 04.28.2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
The song Waiting on a Dream insanely takes off after the first drum crash. What a reccorded moment LEE!


Damn strait. Chill inducing. That first line really hits me esp. being born in CO, haha.

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
And about that Pitchfork review, I think it is very poor way to start with Thurston`s and Kim`s divorce. (What itīs got to do with Leeīs music?)



This. Pitchfork never fails to fail. At least the reviews. The fest in Chi is alrght, tho.

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
Some of the negative comments in this thread had me curious, but this record exceeds my expectations completely. He assembled a great group of musicians - you can rarely go wrong with Nels Cline's touch, Steve is naturally flawless, and I love hearing fluid, driving basslines behind these songs - the whole group mixes quite well! Pretty much every song had burned itself into my mind by the 2nd listen.


I think its best to either not have any expectations or to understand his influences before going into it. Yes, it does sounds a bit 60's nostalgic, with hints of Neil Young-ish bits (Cline?). It helps to understand the Brian Wilson-60's-psychrock-Dead strain of thought I and others have recognized i some of Lee's output. The instrumentation/arrangement here is superb though! Nice to hear established skilled musicians backing Lee/SS.

Also, as far as any poetry or musical missteps.. Miles Davis once said "the wrong notes serve to make the right ones look better". I think that SY output in general always had weird moments and things present in them like this (Goo?), but by contrast, really does serve to help put other moments in a certain light (thinking of many Thousand Leaves moments here..). I guess sometimes I appreciate that unabashed honestly/awkward moments in music sometimes. It's more human in a way.

Mortte Jousimo 04.30.2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hypertonic
This. Pitchfork never fails to fail. At least the reviews. The fest in Chi is alrght, tho.

If somebody say to me about some musicmagazine, that it never fails, itīs really a good reason to not trust that person or that magazine. There just not exist anything in this world that never fails.

umjammer atomsk 04.30.2012 01:55 PM

there's a Blue Submarine No. 6 videogame called Time and Tide

i'll give this a listen

Chris Lawrence 05.04.2012 12:17 AM

Looks like there's a tour-only 12" of demos and a 7" of alt mixes! Hopefully they'll make their way online (or he'll make his way to the northwest).

I suppose there's always eBay...

http://instagr.am/p/KLozAHwgIG/

hipster_bebop_junkie 05.04.2012 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
Looks like there's a tour-only 12" of demos and a 7" of alt mixes! Hopefully they'll make their way online (or he'll make his way to the northwest).

I suppose there's always eBay...

http://instagr.am/p/KLozAHwgIG/

Oh, they look so beautiful. Another reason to be pissed off and heartbroken due to the fact that there weren't any single Lee Ranaldo-related items at the Indie-O Fest merch tables back in April. Can somebody please pick up a copy of each one of these for me? I can paypal fair price for them plus shipping and handling costs. I really dislike to be ripped off on e-bay, but I suppose I'll go that route if all else fails. Thanks for the heads-up, Chris.

hipster_bebop_junkie 05.04.2012 02:15 AM

Some interesting interviews which I didn't see linked here:

*Lee discusses "Between The Times And The Tides" as well as his gear (guitars, pedal board, amps) with Guitar World, amongst other things:
http://www.guitarworld.com/interview...imes-and-tides

*Another Guitar World feauture: Lee Ranaldo discusses his signature Fender Jazzmaster guitar:
http://www.guitarworld.com/sonic-you...re-jazzmasters


*An interview with Lee Ranaldo by The Thread in two parts:
PART I: http://thethread.dukeperformances.du...analdo-part-1/
PART II: http://thethread.dukeperformances.du...analdo-part-2/

*Lee Ranaldo interviewed by Loud And Quiet (some awesome pictures on this one):
http://www.loudandquiet.com/2012/03/...ldo-interview/

*Lee Ranaldo interviewed by CRACK Magazine:
http://crackmagazine.net//article/576/lee-ranaldo/#top
 

(Image posted here because you need to see it, even if you don't follow the link).

rappard 05.04.2012 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
Looks like there's a tour-only 12" of demos and a 7" of alt mixes! Hopefully they'll make their way online (or he'll make his way to the northwest).

I suppose there's always eBay...

http://instagr.am/p/KLozAHwgIG/

The tour 12" collects all the bonus demos (Japanese edition + iTunes + Tower CD-R), don't know what the 7" is. Should I ask you-know-who to hold two copies of each?

hirsute_biped 05.04.2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
Looks like there's a tour-only 12" of demos and a 7" of alt mixes! Hopefully they'll make their way online (or he'll make his way to the northwest).

I suppose there's always eBay...

http://instagr.am/p/KLozAHwgIG/



I also need one of each, as they were not available at the LA show. Lil help please.

Wouldn't be surprised if Kung Fu store gets some for us, actually.

narlus 05.08.2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rappard
The tour 12" collects all the bonus demos (Japanese edition + iTunes + Tower CD-R), don't know what the 7" is. Should I ask you-know-who to hold two copies of each?



just back from the show a little while ago...got the 12" and not the 7". the 7" had different mixes of two songs (can't recall which ones, but the b side was acoustic).

Moshe 05.10.2012 09:57 PM

http://gothamist.com/2012/05/10/lee_renaldo.php

eternal 05.13.2012 12:22 PM

possible hammer blows tuning: CGCGCC OR CGCGGC?

beautiful song...really just cycles between open strings and 2nd/5th/3rd frets on the low strings.

Chris Lawrence 05.13.2012 02:03 PM

CGCCCG per this interview: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazin...do.aspx?Page=2

Lee is Free 05.15.2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence


...except dude in that article got all the string guages in REVERSE ORDER--we always talk about tunings from low string to hi string, which he got right, but then he gave the gauges in reverse. d'oh! so hammer blows tuning should be written as CGCCCG .056/.045/.035/.028/.014/.018 (low string is very low C, middle two are same note and second string an octave above that, and note the hi string G is LOWER than the second string (a strategy I often like...).

rokk on---
--L

hirsute_biped 05.16.2012 12:22 PM

From Lee's page: demo lp & 7in to be in store soon. http://www.sonicyouth.com/symu/lee/2...um-and-single/
Yes!

threelobed 05.19.2012 06:32 AM

i was lucky enough to catch lee do a full band in store performance monday and then again on tuesday night. here are recordings of both nights -

lee ranaldo band - 14 may 2012 - bull city records, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/leeMP3.zip

lee ranaldo band - 15 may 2012 - page auditorium, duke university, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/ranaldo_page-MP3.zip

stu666 05.19.2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threelobed
i was lucky enough to catch lee do a full band in store performance monday and then again on tuesday night. here are recordings of both nights -

lee ranaldo band - 14 may 2012 - bull city records, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/leeMP3.zip

lee ranaldo band - 15 may 2012 - page auditorium, duke university, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/ranaldo_page-MP3.zip


Thankyou!

rappard 05.19.2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threelobed
i was lucky enough to catch lee do a full band in store performance monday and then again on tuesday night. here are recordings of both nights -

lee ranaldo band - 14 may 2012 - bull city records, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/leeMP3.zip

lee ranaldo band - 15 may 2012 - page auditorium, duke university, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/ranaldo_page-MP3.zip

Thanks! Dimeadozen seed soon(ish), for us lossless geeks?

RanaldoNecro 05.19.2012 05:52 PM

I was going to drive down to Nelsonville this weekend but shit got messed up.
Wish I could be there.

hipster_bebop_junkie 05.23.2012 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threelobed
i was lucky enough to catch lee do a full band in store performance monday and then again on tuesday night. here are recordings of both nights -

lee ranaldo band - 14 may 2012 - bull city records, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/leeMP3.zip

lee ranaldo band - 15 may 2012 - page auditorium, duke university, durham (NC)

MP3 - www.threelobed.com/ranaldo_page-MP3.zip


Once you go .FLAC, you can't ever go back. I'd be most grateful for lossless copies of these as well.

hipster_bebop_junkie 05.24.2012 12:36 AM

Oh, my... A lecture of "Bloomington, Indiana" was part of Lee Ranaldo's set at a free show which took place on Monday at Landlocked Music, in Indiana:
http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=87325

If only there was a recording of this, I would jump on it like a ton of bricks, man.

Moshe 05.28.2012 10:06 PM

http://afterdark.wfpk.org/lee-ranaldo-sonic-youth/

sergisonic 05.30.2012 04:43 AM

My review of "Between the Times and the Tides" is available for Indiespot magazine here (in spanish):

http://indiespot.es/2012/05/29/la-ma...e-lee-ranaldo/

tesla69 05.30.2012 03:05 PM

has this article been linked - sorry if duplicated

http://blog.downtownny.com/2012/05/s...wer-manhattan/

Chris Lawrence 06.23.2012 05:10 AM

Maybe I missed it in another thread, but nobody's really discussed the demos 12" or alt mix 7"? It's a rare treat that an artist offers demos for 8/10th of an album (on vinyl!) so I think the demos 12" is a pretty exciting release! It's just Lee, Steve, and Irwin and most of the tracks are pretty similar to the final versions (aside from "Stranded"), with some alternate lyrics here and there, but still interesting to hear. Very cool to see they're on the Lazy 8 imprint, too!

I wonder if we'll see any (digital-only?) soundboard releases from this tour. Another vinyl exclusive is probably too much to hope for.

_tunic_ 06.23.2012 05:20 AM

I did, I think, or I meant to. Love the 12" demos! More than the actual album, this is how I would wish a Lee solo album to sound like. Not that I don't like the proper album, but I have no clue who's playing what guitar. And all I want to hear is Lee (not really being familiar with those other two).

Moshe 09.20.2012 01:08 AM

funny:

http://www.reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/23655

evollove 09.20.2012 04:29 AM

^

Yes.

Almost every paragraph has a knee-slapper.

I've been doubting my writing abilities lately, but this did wonders for my confidence.

Mortte Jousimo 09.20.2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Moshe

Interesting and yes, funny comparison, but I donīt think it has nothing to do with the reality how the Beatles and Sy has worked. I have understood Sy makes the music really collectively and the original idea of some member can change very radically. Also itīs not always the one who has made the original idea who sings. And in Beatles George really did almost everything from the beginning to the end (of course most of the bands each member brings something to the song).

But anyway I like that comparison, because I think both bands have made very inspiring career. Maybe Sy has never been as influental as the Beatles for the popular music and I think even Sy would have sounded quite different without the Beatles, but to me personally Sy is even more important than the Beatles.

jennthebenn 09.20.2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo
Interesting and yes, funny comparison, but I donīt think it has nothing to do with the reality how the Beatles and Sy has worked. I have understood Sy makes the music really collectively and the original idea of some member can change very radically. Also itīs not always the one who has made the original idea who sings. And in Beatles George really did almost everything from the beginning to the end (of course most of the bands each member brings something to the song).

But anyway I like that comparison, because I think both bands have made very inspiring career. Maybe Sy has never been as influental as the Beatles for the popular music and I think even Sy would have sounded quite different without the Beatles, but to me personally Sy is even more important than the Beatles.


Lee is a big ol' Beatles freak...he probably thinks about them the same way I think about SY (or close to it). And the Beatles are my second-favorite band, so anytime people compare them, I'm with it...but you're right. For example, "Hey Joni" is not a "Lee song" in the same way "Something" is a "George song."

People love "Karenology"...that wasn't even his track originally.


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