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Old 10.29.2014, 07:32 AM   #18281
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Session 9....good damn movie imho. I recently bought the soundtrack on amazon mp3 too.

It's been that long since I saw it I can't remember the soundtrack but after reading this snippet I found I guess it's time to delve right in.

"As for the soundtrack CD, get it if you like the movie or if you want a good, creepy soundscape for a Halloween party or freaking out your annoying girlfriend. It evokes a mood more than a specific film, and that's okay; it just isn't for everyone."
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Old 10.29.2014, 07:45 AM   #18282
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I surprisingly watched Gravity last night.. I say surprisingly because I had no business watching it when it came out a year ago. I mean, really, the premise is almost worse than Snakes On A Plane! Most of the movie is just people floating around in space? I mean, its a great plot on paper but to watch for over an hour?? Also I really don't like movies that are 91% (literally!!) CGI graphics but this one wasn't all that terrible. Yet I found myself really really liking this one. Also, nobody told me it was an existentialist morality play?? I would have possibly been more sold on checking it out but all the shit I read and heard suggested it was just another sci-fi blockbuster and I haven't like a sci-fi blockbuster in several years, Hollywood puts out such crap its possibly the only thing worse than commercial radio music.

 


how in the utter name of fuck is it an existential morality play?

not being a dick here i'm just baffled to hear you say this.

i think it's actually one of the most utterly disturbing films of all time. the protagonist is lost in space, hallucinating that a corpse is still alive, trying to guide her back to earth. it's a fucking nightmare. it's just pure delusion, and then she ends up back on earth, sentenced to the dire fate of parenthood.

if this is the human condition in 2014, and the only hope we have is crashing back to earth as we desperately follow the signals of a now dead paternalism, which is the only thing, apart from our own debris, that has a hope of "saving" us, then - fuck.
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Old 10.29.2014, 07:51 AM   #18283
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Gravity must be a better film than I realized.

I liked it a lot as a thriller. It scared the hell out of me and I was emotionally drained by the credits, but also satisfied with my movie-going experience.

But I didn't look for or become aware of any deeper meaning. It's really cool that others have. To me, the best films work that way: something for everyone, the thinkers as well as the "just entertain me" crowd.
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Old 10.29.2014, 07:54 AM   #18284
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Old 10.29.2014, 08:00 AM   #18285
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Gravity must be a better film than I realized.

I liked it a lot as a thriller. It scared the hell out of me and I was emotionally drained by the credits, but also satisfied with my movie-going experience.

But I didn't look for or become aware of any deeper meaning. It's really cool that others have. To me, the best films work that way: something for everyone, the thinkers as well as the "just entertain me" crowd.

I never read any greater meaning into it either. I found the last quarter of the movie very moving but I'm not sure that I took any deep message from it.
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Old 10.29.2014, 10:57 AM   #18286
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Gravity sucked, but Mamet sucks even more
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Old 10.29.2014, 11:11 AM   #18287
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I love how divisive Mamet is.

"People don't talk that way," is the most frequent criticism thrown at him, to which I say, "Yeah, too bad for people." Why blame a writer for not being as boring as the average person?
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Old 10.29.2014, 11:34 AM   #18289
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people do not talk the way that actors talk in most all television and film, but no one cares about that.
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Old 10.29.2014, 01:43 PM   #18290
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How was it an existentialist morality play? The fucking film was.about how.sandra.bullocks.cjaracter was paralyzed in her life with grief over losing her daughter, she is A FUCKING ASTRONAUT IN SPACE and yet only the.free spirited Clooney is ever enjoying the view? He has to talk her through it, her epiphany is that her life was worth moving on and fighting for.. also did you notice almost miraculously everything kept going just right? She makes it to space station just on time, then the station catches on fire forcing her to the escape pod just in time to escape the debris.destroying it.. oh yeah, she randomly brings the fire.extinguisher to the chinese station and only has it because of the fire.. then uses that extinguisher to propel herself to the last station? All those sequences were.about how everything in our lives adds up, how is that NOT existentialism? Notice I didnt say rreligious..
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Old 10.29.2014, 02:00 PM   #18291
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some people think existentialist only refers to someone moping about because they feel life is empty of meaning.
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Well.. shit wasnt kind of exactly what Sandra Bullocks.character doing until she.had that dream.about Clooney and the vodka?? I meant existential in the way it was about the both randomness yet self driven patterns of human life. Everything that happened was a matter of circumstance yet conversely had Sandra Bullocks character also.not made some seriously driven decisions all the circumstances which benefited her would have been for.naught. further the movie seemed a great analogy for the risk reward aspect of daily life. We are daily presented with.circumstances entirely.out of our control yet how.we respond entirely defines our existence.
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Just watched Argo.. fucking shit was as brilliant as the talking heads said!
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Old 10.30.2014, 01:31 PM   #18294
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We are daily presented with.circumstances entirely.out of our control yet how.we respond entirely defines our existence.

unless a piece of space debris gives you a whole new face, but yes, the movie was great at examining that.
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Just watched Argo.. fucking shit was as brilliant as the talking heads said!

I found ARGO entertaining as a piece of filmmaking and dull as a piece of expository "history." I do not know if the reason is that I find Ben Who-ffleck to be a one-note actor with the subtlety of a Gallagher joke, or because it was so damn "Hollywood" in it's plot conventions.

Not to mention the USA_aggrandizing lies told through it all.

Basically I found the film to be another version of Hollywood sucking it's own cock, praising itself for being so cool as to help save white hostages from brown folks. The entire actual operation was 90% Canadian, and very little help from USA was given. The academy of motion pictures loves to suck it's own cock by awarding Oscars to movies that glamorize the work of Hollywood.

It was NOT deserving of even a nomination.

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i liked argo okay, with a very funny streak throughout (the old producers, etc.) but i don't recall it blowing my mind or anything. very entertaining though. certainly not "best" anything except maybe for alan arkin.

as for historical inaccuracies, they are legion, but this is my main beef-- that in the face of such a collaborative enterprise as the hostage rescue, hollywood's americanizing ideology overemphasizes individualism and always insists on propping up the lone hero-- even when it depicts a team effort, it always needs a "main guy" to worship from beginning to end. the center of it all. that is more toxic and pervasive than taking mere historical license to serve fiction. i keep faithfully waiting for the 2nd coming of eisenstein to liberate us from these delusions.
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part of the American lie is that the individual is primal, and that only through the heroic efforts of an individual is anything ever achieved or gained.

It is a pernicious lie.
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I didnt see it.demonize the Iranians at all, indeed in several aspects it almost seemed to portray the.situation respectfully.. also it.didnt.romanticize the.CIA, it.seemed to.mostly.vilify the ranking.command. it was the cinematography I loved most
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it was entertaining, no doubt,. and I did not see it demonizing anyone, as much as it does aggrandize Hollywood itself, as being a patriotic all-american wonderful thing.....
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I didnt see.any.mindless flag waving and im.pretty judgmental against patriotism and jingoism
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