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Old 09.09.2013, 01:50 AM   #17921
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nice little comedy. had fun watching it. the kind of light sunday matinee fare for when you don't want an old world war 2 movie or a spaghetti western.

the funnest part throughout was hearing that crazy québécois accent.


Yeah, I had to watch that at work, better than I expected it to be (my expectations were pretty low though)
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Old 09.09.2013, 07:08 AM   #17922
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Old 09.09.2013, 12:27 PM   #17923
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Why do you keep watching all these Westerns? I didn't realize you were that into it..

 
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Old 09.09.2013, 01:11 PM   #17924
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Honestly, I'm not even listing them all. I just watched some 80s made for TV one that I guessed nobody would be remotely interested in. It's partly just cos I like them but I'm also trying to write something about them, so it's sort of research too.
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Old 09.12.2013, 12:26 AM   #17925
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Came on TV tonight, watched it after work. I forgot just how great this film is it had been a while, I just can't understand why this eccentric, sarcastic, hard-ass Jack Nicholson waited ten years to make a reappearance in the 1980s
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Old 09.12.2013, 07:55 AM   #17926
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I just can't understand why this eccentric, sarcastic, hard-ass Jack Nicholson waited ten years to make a reappearance in the 1980s


it's called "screenwriting" and "acting" and "directing". you know, a writer writes a character, an actor plays that character for the director who demands a certain performance. an incomprehensible notion, i know, that a movie character may be different from an actor, but it's how it's done in them holliwoods.

also, cuckoo's nest is from 1975.
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Old 09.12.2013, 08:03 AM   #17927
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I have always been bored shitless by Chinatown and Mean Streets.
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Old 09.12.2013, 02:56 PM   #17928
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it's called "screenwriting" and "acting" and "directing". you know, a writer writes a character, an actor plays that character for the director who demands a certain performance. an incomprehensible notion, i know, that a movie character may be different from an actor, but it's how it's done in them holliwoods.

also, cuckoo's nest is from 1975.

 


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Old 09.12.2013, 02:57 PM   #17929
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I have always been bored shitless by Chinatown and Mean Streets.
The flaw in the writing, why in the world did they honestly spend half the movie with him having that ridiculous bandage on his nose? Why even write that nose cutting scene into the beginning of the film if it is going to make your leading star look stupid through out most of the film?? Bizarre!
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Old 09.12.2013, 03:17 PM   #17930
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I very nearly bit there but I'm now convinced you're trolling
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Old 09.12.2013, 03:22 PM   #17931
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no trolling. Those movies bore me terribly. It is a similar boredom to what I feel watching 80% of Saturday Night Fever.
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Old 09.12.2013, 03:41 PM   #17932
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No i can kind of get your point about finding it boring. Same with Mean Streets and Saturday Night Fever. There's a definite quite flat pace and tone to them that I can see some people just not getting into, as much as other people seem to love it. I was mainly talking about Suchfriends point about the bandage on Jack Nicholson's nose.
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ahhh! I see.

I enjoyed the crap out of Ronin but I found Casino dull.
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Old 09.12.2013, 07:39 PM   #17934
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Thank you Mister Condescending, I always appreciate just how much a prick you can manage to be, keep up the good work
hey, you're welcome; you've been flogging the same silliness for weeks now, so someone had to tell you, there's a shitstain on your pants, before you continue parading yourself like that.

and you're welcome. again.


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i fell asleep at least a couple of times watching chinatown, but i'm glad i woke up and rewatched/finished. the slowness is a polanski thing. he'll do that shit. e.g., tess. i can't even fucking remember tess, except for nastassja's mouth. oh, what a mouth.

and re: mean streets, it's an okay movie for someone fresh out of film school, but i think it's overrated, i mean, it's kind of sloppy and if it wasn't cuz whatsisname made it, probably nobody would watch it anymore. it's more of an academic thing i think-- "oh, here scorsese for the first time did -----" "oh, here you can see that he wanted to be a priest." that kind of thing. it was very promising for sure for a certain style of filmmaking, mainly his own dark shit, but it wasn't quite there yet.

fwiw, i am okay with taxi driver but it doesn't blow my socks off or anything. but raging bull, or goodfellas, damn damn damn.
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hey, you're welcome; you've been flogging the same silliness for weeks now, so someone had to tell you, there's a shitstain on your pants, before you continue parading yourself like that.

Excuse me, facetiously saying that the best Jack Nicholson flicks are post-1980 and being a total, condescending prick are entirely different things, don't conflate the two, our z-scores aren't even remotely found within the same Normal Distribution. What is funny, is that you are so genuinely just a prick in real life, that you don't even notice the difference or see yourself doing it







 




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fwiw, i am okay with taxi driver but it doesn't blow my socks off or anything. but raging bull, or goodfellas, damn damn damn.

I agree completely but we also have to put it in its chronological context. Our sock aren't blown because we live in a world post-Taxi Driver where a lot of films explore the same psychotic menial grit. However then? It was a bit more revolutionary. Honestly, I kind of liked Taxi Driver better than Goodfellas, even though admittedly Goodfellas is the obviously better flick.

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ahhh! I see.

I enjoyed the crap out of Ronin but I found Casino dull.

Casino is totally dull, and Ronin is totally one of the best movies ever made. Bobby D rolls that way, best of all time, total shit, no in betweens.


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I was mainly talking about Suchfriends point about the bandage on Jack Nicholson's nose.


 

I knew you were, and I wasn't trolling it the slightest, I was dead serious not deadpanning. I mean seriously, what film is daring enough to hide their leading role behind an ugly bandage for about 45 minutes of the film? Why not just NOT have that scene? What exactly was the point of it? To show us how risky his job was? To show us how tough a guy he was? To make Jack look absolutely ridiculous for over 45 minutes wearing a fucking maxi pad on his face? Sighs. It honestly almost ruined the movie for me, and I had totally forgot about it until last night!



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Excuse me, facetiously saying that the best Jack Nicholson flicks are post-1980 and being a total, condescending prick are entirely different things, don't conflate the two, our z-scores aren't even remotely found within the same Normal Distribution. What is funny, is that you are so genuinely just a prick in real life, that you don't even notice the difference or see yourself doing it

no no, i totally know and notice i'm a prick, and i try to put that to good use. it's my natural talent. sometimes i'm even a social assassin, like larry david. in fact, i was hired to tell you that because nobody else could.

you know, it's one of those "things you can't say to their face" situations. well, i can, and do, ha ha ha ha.

jack nicholson: easy rider. chinatown. cuckoo's nest. all before the 80s.

i haven't seen the last detail or five easy pieces, but i hear he's good in them too. check those out. prevent shitstains.


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I agree completely but we also have to put it in its chronological context. Our sock aren't blown because we live in a world post-Taxi Driver where a lot of films explore the same psychotic menial grit. However then? It was a bit more revolutionary. Honestly, I kind of liked Taxi Driver better than Goodfellas, even though admittedly Goodfellas is the obviously better flick.

oh, i definitely will admit it taxi driver was groundbreaking, and the production is excellent, and it is perhaps de niro's most iconic role, an made a huge mark in pop culture, but scorsese went on to do shit that's even greater no matter when it was made and that's bigger than any actor even if it's less "famous." still, there are people today who see taxi driver as the greatest thing ever, which it might be, but it just doesn't do it for me at the emotional level-- and yes it's one of the best movies ever, but i can't connect with it the same way. now anybody can quote taxi driver or do a travis bickle impression, and not a lot of people can quote from raging bull or impersonate jake lamotta, but raging bull is just another category of beast over taxi driver for me. most people would make taxi driver and die happy, but i think scorsese surpassed himself.
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as you can see, very nice, ha ha ha. (if you like that sort of thing. i do.)

but i liked the first movie better. it had more surprises.

i don't know about the frumious bandersnatch as kahn. montalbán defined that role. but i see the new one and my brain goes "sherlock!". every time. the old kahn was much more flamboyant and over the top-- a kind of liberace of supervillains. this new one is rather cold.
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^^ that looks kind of funny. funny haha not peculiar.


speaking of funny, earlier today watched john ford's stagecoach. some memorable photography and impressive stuntwork, but it was not the great epic thing i expected it to be (perhaps demonyo can tell me why i'm wrong). at first it reminded me of hitchcock's lifeboat, but i like hitchcock better. i did appreciate the comedic bits (e.g., yakima the apache wife), and the bit of social commentary (the banker crook), but at times i also found it involuntarily funny-- a bit corny all around. but of course this being a 70+ year old movie shit like that can happen.
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I think in part its reputation is purely historical: talking very broadly, it helped modernise the western away from the 'singing cowboy' stuff with Roy Rogers, etc and its B movie origins, as well making a star out of Wayne and a cult figure out of Ford - arguably the first Hollywood director to gain a following at a time when the overwhelming focus was still on the studios/producers and the stars. As such, it also helped establish the idea that great directors could express themselves in the kinds of genre films that'd traditionally had a quite low status, while helping to inspire a group of young European critics to start talking about the possibility of a Hollywood 'auteur', able to rival the established European directors - many of whom (like Lang, Hitch, Renoir) were far more open to taking on genre films when they moved to Hollywood because of the artistic credibility Ford gave them in Stagecoach.

So in a sense its reputation is pretty academic. It's the set text that underpins much of what's taught in Film Studies programmes today. Beyond that it's more subjective. I just think it's a great western. It may have dated slightly politically but there's a kind of epic timelessness to it, bordering on pure mythology. As well as that, something that I think often gets overlooked by people who focus perhaps a bit too much on Ford's purely 'western' content, is what a great romance it is. The love affair between Ringo and Dallas is one of my favourites in any film, regardless of genre.

Tombs of the Blind Dead is great. Actually that's not true. It's pretty boring for the most part. It does have the coolest zombies you'll ever see, though. No mean feat given the amount we've seen over the years.

 

 
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