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Old 02.26.2014, 11:40 AM   #17881
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Old 02.26.2014, 01:11 PM   #17882
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Old 02.26.2014, 03:01 PM   #17884
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I was pretty underwhelmed by The Science of Sleep. I was hoping it would be much more surreal. Instead I got an art school educated romantic comedy. It is a little more than that, but really came off as a pablum date movie for twenty and thirty some things with memberships to Public Radio.
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Old 02.26.2014, 03:03 PM   #17885
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I was pretty underwhelmed by The Science of Sleep. I was hoping it would be much more surreal. Instead I got an art school educated romantic comedy. It is a little more than that, but really came off as a pablum date movie for twenty and thirty some things with memberships to Public Radio.

i don't know that it was a romantic comedy as much as an actual farce.
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Old 02.26.2014, 03:05 PM   #17886
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Either way, not my bag. I like Gael a lot, but couldn't love this movie.
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Old 02.26.2014, 03:29 PM   #17887
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Either way, not my bag. I like Gael a lot, but couldn't love this movie.

it is in many ways a children's movie (overgrown children more exactly) so i can see why it disappointed you. i wasn't too crazy about the "drama" part either, except as an excuse for goofiness-- i like goofy shit.

my favorite parts were the animations and inventions and all the stuff he does with effects-- gondry has always been a special effects director, but he does the stuff manually instead of computers. e.g., the cellophane thing, or a city of toilet paper rolls (which his family collected ha ha ha). as i said before-- he's a very imaginative child. it's not really a movie for (or by) grownups.
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Old 02.26.2014, 04:18 PM   #17888
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TREASURES IV: DISC 2

an unmitigated borefest. 11 minutes of fog moving off a hill "to teach us how to see" (thanks, professor). a fast-forward tour of new york in the 60s. some lady in a hammock, and jack smith making faces or giving a blow job to a balloon. the unlistenable "music" of angus maclise. a drag queen giving a blow job to a banana (more obvious please). 9 minutes of people in an escalator (clever-- but 9 minutes!?!?). 36 minutes of some other thing i decided to skip because no avant-garde anything should last 36 minutes (ha ha, no, i didn't have time to watch it and just wanted the next movie in the queue sent).

the singular wonderful exception to all this nonsense was george kuchar's I, AN ACTRESS, which had us laughing hard and we watched twice. george kuchar was indeed an amazing actress!

 


there was also the first segment of ken jacobs's "little stabs at happiness" featuring jack smith, which was pretty great and disturbing, but then he has to keep adding more and more segments and boring footage until you just want to kill him.

one thing i noticed in all or most of these people or at least a lot of them they were ivy league dropouts. correlation or causation?

Fair enough on that stuff but it's interesting that a few other people I know who really can't get into a lot of the Jack Smith kind of stuff don't just tolerate George Kuchar but really seem to like him.
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Old 02.26.2014, 04:49 PM   #17889
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Fair enough on that stuff but it's interesting that a few other people I know who really can't get into a lot of the Jack Smith kind of stuff don't just tolerate George Kuchar but really seem to like him.

kuchar is alive! his stuff is not an intellectual exercise and he tries to teach you nothing. he's sort of experimental by default, by which i mean that his ends aren't "experimental", only his methods. i wish i could get more of his stuff. and he does a GREAT film noir actress! damn, he blows that student out of the water--he's like a, i don't know, bette davis or something.
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Old 02.26.2014, 05:25 PM   #17890
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I know what you're saying, especially about some of the underground stuff, but I don't think there's anything remotely intellectual about Jack Smith, and I really don't think he wanted to make 'experimental' films at all. Not self consciously, anyway. Anger, Brakhage, Deren were thinking about stuff on that level but Smith seemed to be working more along the lines of outsider art.
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I know what you're saying, especially about some of the underground stuff, but I don't think there's anything remotely intellectual about Jack Smith, and I really don't think he wanted to make 'experimental' films at all. Not self consciously, anyway. Anger, Brakhage, Deren were thinking about stuff on that level but Smith seemed to be working more along the lines of outsider art.

i've only seen jack smith as an actor so far, it was someone else's movie-- i haven't seen flaming creatures, only bits of it. the stuff i saw him in belonged to ken jacobs and… someone else i forget right now. oh yes in chumlum. but the documentary about smith was very compelling-- for a lot of reasons too late in the evening to mention (i've had some rum). still, i might like the stuff he directed when i actually get to see it. as for the "acting", in the first part of little stabs at happiness, the "couple" with the "babies" where he eats out the dolls crotch, it was disturbing but great-- you know, some sort of dumb family scene and the baby gets violated-- it worked. but it was only the additions after that where i lost my patience with ken jacobs (not really with jack smith).

i do like maya deren actually. not all the time but i "get" her. and anger. not really brakhage (too abstract i suppose, and i can't look at it for too long). anger bores me, but he bores me the right way-- he bores me with an excess of style, i suppose-- but he has tons of style. i don't see his work as cerebral or intellectual-- i actually find it pretty raw. and that's what saddened me about mario banana (the andy warhol thing w/ mario montez)-- what could have been a sort of apotheosis of style (a la anger) becomes a kind of banana porn which yes, maybe it was supposed to be funny, but i found to be a waste of a great drag queen. i don't know, maybe i was too annoyed at the time. if it had been mario montez in a kenneth anger set it would have been something brilliant. was mario montez ever in anger movies? anyway, back to the rum!
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Nice archival interviews with Burroughs, Hunke and others, learned a few things abt "Kerroway" that I didn't already know, and an hilarious segment with Neal and Ginsberg. High reccos for those who like any of the beats
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i needed something from the redbox, and this was there, and it wasn't half bad! actually it was pretty good, even considering i don't like affleck much. the rest of the cast was pretty great though-- john goodman and alan arkin were particularly entertaining to watch. good/fun spy movie. good also that the start of the movie acknowledges the us intervention in deposing a democratic leader and propping up the shah in iran. anyway, highly watchable entertainment, if you're into this sort of thing.
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oh shit! i just realized. fuck!

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i've only seen jack smith as an actor so far, it was someone else's movie-- i haven't seen flaming creatures, only bits of it. the stuff i saw him in belonged to ken jacobs and… someone else i forget right now. oh yes in chumlum. but the documentary about smith was very compelling-- for a lot of reasons too late in the evening to mention (i've had some rum). still, i might like the stuff he directed when i actually get to see it. as for the "acting", in the first part of little stabs at happiness, the "couple" with the "babies" where he eats out the dolls crotch, it was disturbing but great-- you know, some sort of dumb family scene and the baby gets violated-- it worked. but it was only the additions after that where i lost my patience with ken jacobs (not really with jack smith).

i do like maya deren actually. not all the time but i "get" her. and anger. not really brakhage (too abstract i suppose, and i can't look at it for too long). anger bores me, but he bores me the right way-- he bores me with an excess of style, i suppose-- but he has tons of style. i don't see his work as cerebral or intellectual-- i actually find it pretty raw. and that's what saddened me about mario banana (the andy warhol thing w/ mario montez)-- what could have been a sort of apotheosis of style (a la anger) becomes a kind of banana porn which yes, maybe it was supposed to be funny, but i found to be a waste of a great drag queen. i don't know, maybe i was too annoyed at the time. if it had been mario montez in a kenneth anger set it would have been something brilliant. was mario montez ever in anger movies? anyway, back to the rum!

If you didn't like Chumlum I can't see you being into the films Jack Smith actually directed. They're variations on the same kind of thing.

I don't think Anger ever worked with Mario Montez or anyone from the NY underground scene. I imagine he saw himself as 'above all that'. The West Coast scene seemed far less shambolic than the East Coast's. There's a certain professionalism to Anger and Deren's stuff - technically at least - that you won't really find in most of the stuff coming out of NY at that time.
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If you didn't like Chumlum I can't see you being into the films Jack Smith actually directed. They're variations on the same kind of thing..


really? i was looking forward to much more. the documentary about him made him look quite fascinating--him as a person. and i have a friend who is a huge fan of his movies. i'll have to try anyway because sometimes a small change makes all the difference.

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I don't think Anger ever worked with Mario Montez or anyone from the NY underground scene. I imagine he saw himself as 'above all that'. The West Coast scene seemed far less shambolic than the East Coast's. There's a certain professionalism to Anger and Deren's stuff - technically at least - that you won't really find in most of the stuff coming out of NY at that time.

a pity, cuz mario was better looking than anais nin, ha ha. and what you say about production values is very true, now that i think about it.
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this one was pretty stupid. thumbs down. terrible dialogue and direction so the performances are blegh. structurally terrible-- a bunch of minor characters with nothing to contribute except being part of the decor (silf, the musketeer guy). villains that look like teletubbies (see picture). "worlds" that look right of a xena set. heavy london "product placement". just too fucking obvious and ponderous and meh. even the jokes sucked--like they were trying to channel joss whedon and failed. not completely unwatchable, but not really watchable either. maybe only loki was interesting. the rest not at all. it's like it was written by too many people and each did a bit.
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