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Old 02.26.2014, 03:01 PM   #17821
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I was pretty underwhelmed by The Science of Sleep. I was hoping it would be much more surreal. Instead I got an art school educated romantic comedy. It is a little more than that, but really came off as a pablum date movie for twenty and thirty some things with memberships to Public Radio.
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Old 02.26.2014, 03:03 PM   #17822
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I was pretty underwhelmed by The Science of Sleep. I was hoping it would be much more surreal. Instead I got an art school educated romantic comedy. It is a little more than that, but really came off as a pablum date movie for twenty and thirty some things with memberships to Public Radio.

i don't know that it was a romantic comedy as much as an actual farce.
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Old 02.26.2014, 03:05 PM   #17823
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Either way, not my bag. I like Gael a lot, but couldn't love this movie.
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Old 02.26.2014, 03:29 PM   #17824
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Either way, not my bag. I like Gael a lot, but couldn't love this movie.

it is in many ways a children's movie (overgrown children more exactly) so i can see why it disappointed you. i wasn't too crazy about the "drama" part either, except as an excuse for goofiness-- i like goofy shit.

my favorite parts were the animations and inventions and all the stuff he does with effects-- gondry has always been a special effects director, but he does the stuff manually instead of computers. e.g., the cellophane thing, or a city of toilet paper rolls (which his family collected ha ha ha). as i said before-- he's a very imaginative child. it's not really a movie for (or by) grownups.
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Old 02.26.2014, 04:18 PM   #17825
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TREASURES IV: DISC 2

an unmitigated borefest. 11 minutes of fog moving off a hill "to teach us how to see" (thanks, professor). a fast-forward tour of new york in the 60s. some lady in a hammock, and jack smith making faces or giving a blow job to a balloon. the unlistenable "music" of angus maclise. a drag queen giving a blow job to a banana (more obvious please). 9 minutes of people in an escalator (clever-- but 9 minutes!?!?). 36 minutes of some other thing i decided to skip because no avant-garde anything should last 36 minutes (ha ha, no, i didn't have time to watch it and just wanted the next movie in the queue sent).

the singular wonderful exception to all this nonsense was george kuchar's I, AN ACTRESS, which had us laughing hard and we watched twice. george kuchar was indeed an amazing actress!

 


there was also the first segment of ken jacobs's "little stabs at happiness" featuring jack smith, which was pretty great and disturbing, but then he has to keep adding more and more segments and boring footage until you just want to kill him.

one thing i noticed in all or most of these people or at least a lot of them they were ivy league dropouts. correlation or causation?

Fair enough on that stuff but it's interesting that a few other people I know who really can't get into a lot of the Jack Smith kind of stuff don't just tolerate George Kuchar but really seem to like him.
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Old 02.26.2014, 04:49 PM   #17826
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Fair enough on that stuff but it's interesting that a few other people I know who really can't get into a lot of the Jack Smith kind of stuff don't just tolerate George Kuchar but really seem to like him.

kuchar is alive! his stuff is not an intellectual exercise and he tries to teach you nothing. he's sort of experimental by default, by which i mean that his ends aren't "experimental", only his methods. i wish i could get more of his stuff. and he does a GREAT film noir actress! damn, he blows that student out of the water--he's like a, i don't know, bette davis or something.
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Old 02.26.2014, 05:25 PM   #17827
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I know what you're saying, especially about some of the underground stuff, but I don't think there's anything remotely intellectual about Jack Smith, and I really don't think he wanted to make 'experimental' films at all. Not self consciously, anyway. Anger, Brakhage, Deren were thinking about stuff on that level but Smith seemed to be working more along the lines of outsider art.
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Old 02.26.2014, 11:46 PM   #17828
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I know what you're saying, especially about some of the underground stuff, but I don't think there's anything remotely intellectual about Jack Smith, and I really don't think he wanted to make 'experimental' films at all. Not self consciously, anyway. Anger, Brakhage, Deren were thinking about stuff on that level but Smith seemed to be working more along the lines of outsider art.

i've only seen jack smith as an actor so far, it was someone else's movie-- i haven't seen flaming creatures, only bits of it. the stuff i saw him in belonged to ken jacobs and… someone else i forget right now. oh yes in chumlum. but the documentary about smith was very compelling-- for a lot of reasons too late in the evening to mention (i've had some rum). still, i might like the stuff he directed when i actually get to see it. as for the "acting", in the first part of little stabs at happiness, the "couple" with the "babies" where he eats out the dolls crotch, it was disturbing but great-- you know, some sort of dumb family scene and the baby gets violated-- it worked. but it was only the additions after that where i lost my patience with ken jacobs (not really with jack smith).

i do like maya deren actually. not all the time but i "get" her. and anger. not really brakhage (too abstract i suppose, and i can't look at it for too long). anger bores me, but he bores me the right way-- he bores me with an excess of style, i suppose-- but he has tons of style. i don't see his work as cerebral or intellectual-- i actually find it pretty raw. and that's what saddened me about mario banana (the andy warhol thing w/ mario montez)-- what could have been a sort of apotheosis of style (a la anger) becomes a kind of banana porn which yes, maybe it was supposed to be funny, but i found to be a waste of a great drag queen. i don't know, maybe i was too annoyed at the time. if it had been mario montez in a kenneth anger set it would have been something brilliant. was mario montez ever in anger movies? anyway, back to the rum!
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Nice archival interviews with Burroughs, Hunke and others, learned a few things abt "Kerroway" that I didn't already know, and an hilarious segment with Neal and Ginsberg. High reccos for those who like any of the beats
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i needed something from the redbox, and this was there, and it wasn't half bad! actually it was pretty good, even considering i don't like affleck much. the rest of the cast was pretty great though-- john goodman and alan arkin were particularly entertaining to watch. good/fun spy movie. good also that the start of the movie acknowledges the us intervention in deposing a democratic leader and propping up the shah in iran. anyway, highly watchable entertainment, if you're into this sort of thing.
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Old 03.03.2014, 05:13 AM   #17834
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i've only seen jack smith as an actor so far, it was someone else's movie-- i haven't seen flaming creatures, only bits of it. the stuff i saw him in belonged to ken jacobs and… someone else i forget right now. oh yes in chumlum. but the documentary about smith was very compelling-- for a lot of reasons too late in the evening to mention (i've had some rum). still, i might like the stuff he directed when i actually get to see it. as for the "acting", in the first part of little stabs at happiness, the "couple" with the "babies" where he eats out the dolls crotch, it was disturbing but great-- you know, some sort of dumb family scene and the baby gets violated-- it worked. but it was only the additions after that where i lost my patience with ken jacobs (not really with jack smith).

i do like maya deren actually. not all the time but i "get" her. and anger. not really brakhage (too abstract i suppose, and i can't look at it for too long). anger bores me, but he bores me the right way-- he bores me with an excess of style, i suppose-- but he has tons of style. i don't see his work as cerebral or intellectual-- i actually find it pretty raw. and that's what saddened me about mario banana (the andy warhol thing w/ mario montez)-- what could have been a sort of apotheosis of style (a la anger) becomes a kind of banana porn which yes, maybe it was supposed to be funny, but i found to be a waste of a great drag queen. i don't know, maybe i was too annoyed at the time. if it had been mario montez in a kenneth anger set it would have been something brilliant. was mario montez ever in anger movies? anyway, back to the rum!

If you didn't like Chumlum I can't see you being into the films Jack Smith actually directed. They're variations on the same kind of thing.

I don't think Anger ever worked with Mario Montez or anyone from the NY underground scene. I imagine he saw himself as 'above all that'. The West Coast scene seemed far less shambolic than the East Coast's. There's a certain professionalism to Anger and Deren's stuff - technically at least - that you won't really find in most of the stuff coming out of NY at that time.
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If you didn't like Chumlum I can't see you being into the films Jack Smith actually directed. They're variations on the same kind of thing..


really? i was looking forward to much more. the documentary about him made him look quite fascinating--him as a person. and i have a friend who is a huge fan of his movies. i'll have to try anyway because sometimes a small change makes all the difference.

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I don't think Anger ever worked with Mario Montez or anyone from the NY underground scene. I imagine he saw himself as 'above all that'. The West Coast scene seemed far less shambolic than the East Coast's. There's a certain professionalism to Anger and Deren's stuff - technically at least - that you won't really find in most of the stuff coming out of NY at that time.

a pity, cuz mario was better looking than anais nin, ha ha. and what you say about production values is very true, now that i think about it.
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this one was pretty stupid. thumbs down. terrible dialogue and direction so the performances are blegh. structurally terrible-- a bunch of minor characters with nothing to contribute except being part of the decor (silf, the musketeer guy). villains that look like teletubbies (see picture). "worlds" that look right of a xena set. heavy london "product placement". just too fucking obvious and ponderous and meh. even the jokes sucked--like they were trying to channel joss whedon and failed. not completely unwatchable, but not really watchable either. maybe only loki was interesting. the rest not at all. it's like it was written by too many people and each did a bit.
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really? i was looking forward to much more. the documentary about him made him look quite fascinating--him as a person. and i have a friend who is a huge fan of his movies. i'll have to try anyway because sometimes a small change makes all the difference.

To be fair there's a massive cult of personality surrounding him. I have a friend who's a massive underground film fan and even he admits that Jack Smith is probably more interesting than any film he made or appeared in. I'm not sure I agree with that completely but there's definitely some truth to it - which is a key difference between him and Anger, who's just as eccentric and fascinating as a person but whose films still manage to stand up in their own right. It's possible to appreciate a film like Scorpio Rising without knowing anything about who made it. I'm not sure the same could be said about Flaming Creatures.

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what you say about production values is very true

Anger was brought up in Hollywood and his family worked in the industry so he had access to equipment and crew that nobody on the east coast had. Same for Deren, whose films were shot by her husband: a well respected and future oscar winnining filmmaker in his own right. The NY underground seemed more like a subculture, with film playing no bigger part than say poetry or music or theatre, whereas the west coast seemed far less like a scene and more dedicated just to making films.
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The last movie I watched was 1960's "The Last Voyage", starring Robert Stack and a bunch of other people. The film is pretty much a pointless disaster flick, wherein a ship suffers a boiler room explosion which blows out the bottom and sinks, but, before she sinks, a whole lotta melodramatic crap happens. But the real star of the film was the ship herself, which was none other than SS Īle de France, one of the great ocean liners of all time. The beginning scenes show off the ship's Art-Deco passenger accommodations quite well, and the rest of the film shows off the engineering spaces and navigation bridge, as well as boat deck operations, etc.. Yet it's sad to see the ship being so abused for the sake of making the film, as it was shot in 1959 while she was being towed to the ship breakers' yard in Japan, and the film shows explosions destroying much of the beautiful passenger accommodation spaces. There's also a weird scene showing the forward funnel being unshipped due to gravitational force unleashed by the ship's foundering by the head (an obvious reference to a similar incident occurring in the course of the RMS Titanic disaster), when in fact the post-WWII refit funnels of SS Īle de France had centers of gravity WAY too low to have provided gravitational potential energy sufficient to have caused such a failure.

There are obvious references to then-recent shipwrecks, such as that of SS Andrea Doria (in which SS Īle de France played a major role in the rescue of survivors, for which she was named a Gallant Ship), as well as a piano falling through a collapsed deck, which actually occurred aboard SS Aquitania around 1950.

Does it seem that most of my recent reviews involve films heavily featuring ships?
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Robert Schunk, I was reading some astronomy magazine with an interesting article about increasing discoveries of objects orbiting our Sun in the Kuiper Belt, and how these objects are all effected particularly by Neptune's gravity. Some folks are suggesting that it could be evidence to support an entirely new cosmology for planetary formation. New "discoveries" of Jupiter (and larger) sized "planets" orbiting much closer to their relative stars than where our gas giants also are a part of this. Current theories suggest planets formed at or near their current places, with the gas giants around the middle and the rocky Earth-sized planets nearer the sun. New theories suggest that possibly the gas giants can form nearer to their stars and then move out. How does Neptune play into this? If Neptune is a gas giant that formed nearer to our sun and then moved outward later its gravity could have attracted the 200 or so planetary sized objects in the Kuiper Belt. I thought this ridiculously interesting, it essentially flips the planetary formation model of the past 50 years on its head!

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily...iper-belt.html
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