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Old 09.30.2013, 11:42 AM   #17641
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As my Star Wars geek friends love to tell me, Empire was the best because Lucas didn't direct it...
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Old 09.30.2013, 11:55 AM   #17642
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I think the suckitude in Jedi is experienced directly first when Jabba's Band starts playing that horrible fucking music. (in the extended, director's cut, edition)

Fuck that shit makes you instantly remember you are watching a movie. I hate that shit so bad After that shit, all the corny shit really glares,.
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Old 09.30.2013, 12:02 PM   #17643
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I think the suckitude in Jedi is experienced directly first when Jabba's Band starts playing that horrible fucking music. (in the extended, director's cut, edition)

Fuck that shit makes you instantly remember you are watching a movie. I hate that shit so bad After that shit, all the corny shit really glares,.

Sometimes I think Lynch's Dune is the only valid sci fi move. I enjoy star wars the star trek, battlestar galactica, but Dune has some real imagination in it and it doesn't devolved into a cliche zombie monster movie.

Logans' Run is good, Planet of The Apes I will always like...ok there are a few, but for space ship, off world vision, Dune is the nads even if it does have a few cornball LYnch moments
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Old 09.30.2013, 12:39 PM   #17644
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Sometimes I think Lynch's Dune is the only valid sci fi move. I enjoy star wars the star trek, battlestar galactica, but Dune has some real imagination in it and it doesn't devolved into a cliche zombie monster movie.

Logans' Run is good, Planet of The Apes I will always like...ok there are a few, but for space ship, off world vision, Dune is the nads even if it does have a few cornball LYnch moments

Please tell me you're kidding. The only valid sci-fi film? I can ream off many sci fi films that are better than that.

BTW how do you mean valid?
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Old 09.30.2013, 01:05 PM   #17645
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I dig Dune. I had to explain it as it went along when I screened it for my friends in the 90's. I had read the book and they had not.
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Old 09.30.2013, 02:33 PM   #17646
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Star Wars

Empire Strikes Back

Return of The Jedi


Had not seen them in about 15 years. Really enjoyed the first two, and was a bit bored with Jedi at times, but I still dug it.


Jedi's definitely the weakest of the three but I always really enjoy it, whereas long stretches of Empire, despite thinking it's a better film overall, really bore me. Mainly the scenes with Yoda, who I've never been able to stand. Besides everything else, making him such a key character was the last straw with the prequels for me.

Star Wars though is just brilliant from beginning to end.
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Old 09.30.2013, 02:46 PM   #17647
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I dig Dune. I had to explain it as it went along when I screened it for my friends in the 90's. I had read the book and they had not.

I've not read the book and I quite like Dune. I don't try to make too much sense of the plot when I watch it, which might be the best way.
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Old 09.30.2013, 04:20 PM   #17648
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Moon is a great sci fi film if anyone cares.

I have to grit my teeth when the ewoks are on screen but I like the rest of Return of The Jedi a lot. I have the original versions on VHS, I wouldn't even entertain the thought of watching the updated expanded versions or whatever they are.

Anywho, Star Wars isn't Sci Fi, it's Space Opera.
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Old 09.30.2013, 04:44 PM   #17649
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Moon was awesome indeed.
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Old 09.30.2013, 06:53 PM   #17650
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The Prophecy.... How does Chris Walken make
terrible movies so fucking awesome? A sem-fallen
Angel with swag?? Maybe Walken and Nicholson
should have a swag battle, it would be epic.

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once I worked out what they were trying to achieve with the highly histrionic acting and everything I really enjoyed this. typical allen, but fundamentally very, very dark (ie every single character is a dick, inarguably in most cases.)
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sam rockwell. lol. he's like a kevin spacey. good and popular, but nobody knows who the fuck he is.

sam rockwell has some of my favorite roles. he was AWESOME in Galaxy Quest
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The Ipcress File (1965) early Michael Caine, a mind control espionage movie with a notable soundtrack, they use crazy noise to erase memory and self control.
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The Prophecy.... How does Chris Walken make
terrible movies so fucking awesome? A sem-fallen
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I like Viggo Mortensen in that as Satan. The followups aren't too bad...you are right about walken.
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I like Viggo Mortensen in that as Satan. The followups aren't too bad...you are right about walken.

I thought the Satan was a perfect balance to Chris Walken, in fact, Walken probably could have played either role interchangeably, but casting Viggo was a plus. He was seductive yet menacing, threatening yet cordially. The perfect devil. He wasn't a horror villain like the Lord of Darkness in Legend, who is the other proto-typical devil, but he is the more realistic rendition.

Still, Walken takes the cake in that movie, his delivery perfectly portrayed the swag filled angst of a quasi-divine being. That, and subtly, it wasn't emphasized but neither Gabriel nor Satan were unlimited or all-powerful, they were clearly limited in many ways, which was an added theological touch of realism.

That little girl did a pretty stellar job of going back and forth between a cute little girl and insanely psychotic war criminal.

I think if this flick were done by nothing but an A cast, it would have been a blockbuster, but then again, I liked the more obscure casting, it added to the value. Thriller and horror flicks work so much better when you don't know the cast, that way you don't project or compare their previous roles, the film you're watching gets to stand for itself.
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Walken made that movie. He made it seem bigger and more ominous and more important. awesome menace.
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Walken made that movie. He made it seem bigger and more ominous and more important. awesome menace.

I think he makes everything he is in. Really, what was Dogs of War without Walken?? Haha, he was even great in Sarah, Plain and Tall, in fact, I think that was my first introduction to Chris Walken back in elementary school! Suicide Kings was total shit, but Chris was delightful in it. It was like a TV movie knock of Kings of New York, wait, that is probably because it was made by a TV movie director I don't know HOW THE FUCK I haven't seen Seven Psychopaths yet, I mean really.. In Last Man Standing he manages to out swag Bruce Willis in one of The Bruce's most swag roles. Was thee drug lord villain in Day of Atonement, a movie that would have been a disaster without him. Ok, Communion didn't work, but that is only because Walken kept doing devious Walken gestures and mannerisms, we weren't sure who was the villain then, him or the aliens? At Close Range was epic, even with that bad mustache. He couldn't save A View To Kill, even as a blonde. Mousehunt was fucking hilarious, it is what makes Walken Walken, the blend between absurdly funny deadpanning and ruthless evil (sort of like the bad cop version of Liam Neilson). Mr. Smith in the Nick of Time was sinister. I even enjoyed Catch Me If You Can.. I won't even bring of King of New York, its unnecessary. Same with Deer Hunter, though I don't think its his best at all..



 
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Did Walken kill Natalie Wood?
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Did Walken kill Natalie Wood?

No, but he was there on the boat. Walken was considered part of the fight, but not a suspect. It is suspicious either way, but I recall Walken has taken accusations to be so absurd so as to not even respond to them. After all, he is said to have loved or at least been deeply involved with Natalie Wood, I'm sure its a sensitive issue to say the least...
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