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Old 10.30.2013, 03:20 PM   #17501
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The funny part, is they try to act like he had all this pimpness and swag with the ladiez, yet, he always came across as somebodies genteel grandfather, not some kind of sex symbol, rather somebody just too damned nice to have sex with people. The chicks always falling for him seemed so damned arbitrarily written into the plot that the movie was over before it began, even with all the shit casting and production. How did this guy have some kind of career? Making Clint Eastwood parody flicks? The 1980s are almost worse than the 1990s in regards to giving shit actors star careers. Almost worse than the 1990s..

 
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Old 10.30.2013, 06:42 PM   #17502
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Are you saying that you dig Bronson, or that his swag seems authentic?

Btw the way, I love John Carpenter but The Fog is such a terrible fucking movie. What a waste.
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Old 10.30.2013, 08:10 PM   #17503
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Are you saying that you dig Bronson, or that his swag seems authentic?

Btw the way, I love John Carpenter but The Fog is such a terrible fucking movie. What a waste.

I do like him and I think for a while he was one of the most authentic/believable tough guys out there, but I'll admit that by the 80s he'd become a bit ridiculous. But then you mention that being a decade when he was making Clint Eastwood parodies which is sort of true (although not really parodies) but then again pretty much what everyone was doing that in the 80s, including Clint Eastwood.

Bronson's movies from the 70s though, stuff like Mr Majestyk, Cold Sweat, were great.

And what's so terrible about The Fog? It's not my fave by Carpenter and the ending's a definite let down but until that point it hardly puts a foot wrong.
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I do like him and I think for a while he was one of the most authentic/believable tough guys out there,

Dude you must be choking on nostalgia, have you re-watched an actual Bronson movie since like 25 years ago, because you may unfortunately discover that they suck. Believe me, its nothing personal against Bronson, its just a kind of reality check.

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And what's so terrible about The Fog? It's not my fave by Carpenter and the ending's a definite let down but until that point it hardly puts a foot wrong.

If anything, the ending was the only redeeming part, as with most John Carpenter movies, the ending is really the only point. And as with Big Trouble in Little China, The Fog was really pointless up until that point, but unlike as with Big Trouble, the Fog was no where near as entertaining or go for broke campy (e.g. in the Evil Dead/Army of Darkness form).

Carpenter makes The Fog into a morality play on hypocrisy within Christianity, particularly the Catholic Church, as he has in several of his movies, but in this instance, it seems like NONE of the plot developed or enhanced or even built up to this. It was like some kind of "surprise" ending, but the movie itself was not credible enough to sustain it. If you just saw the final 30 minutes, it'd be a better movie in my opinion.

Halloween, The Thing, Escape From New York, Prince of Darkness, In the Mouth of Madness, these are great fucking movies, but The Fog I think is a miss. Just meandered too much..
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Old 10.31.2013, 06:59 AM   #17511
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Dude you must be choking on nostalgia, have you re-watched an actual Bronson movie since like 25 years ago, because you may unfortunately discover that they suck.

Well I watched him a few weeks ago in Once Upon a Time in the West and thought he was great.

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If anything, the ending was the only redeeming part, as with most John Carpenter movies, the ending is really the only point. And as with Big Trouble in Little China, The Fog was really pointless up until that point, but unlike as with Big Trouble, the Fog was no where near as entertaining or go for broke campy (e.g. in the Evil Dead/Army of Darkness form).

Something I actually like about The Fog (and Carpenter generally) is that it serves it to you straight, with little regard for the kind of campiness that's done so much to ruin the genre in recent years (IMO).

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Carpenter makes The Fog into a morality play on hypocrisy within Christianity, particularly the Catholic Church, as he has in several of his movies, but in this instance, it seems like NONE of the plot developed or enhanced or even built up to this. It was like some kind of "surprise" ending, but the movie itself was not credible enough to sustain it. If you just saw the final 30 minutes, it'd be a better movie in my opinion.

Halloween, The Thing, Escape From New York, Prince of Darkness, In the Mouth of Madness, these are great fucking movies, but The Fog I think is a miss. Just meandered too much..

I've never read that much into Carpenter's plots. I always took the Fog as using the kind of 'town with a secret' idea that gets used in plenty of horror films. He's a stylist first and foremost and while I agree the film does meander a bit it still has some of my very favourite Carpenter scenes in it, as well as one of his best soundtracks.
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I may have been too harsh on The Fog because its low points don't compare with the usual John Carpenter standards. However, its few highs aren't too bad, so I'd say about 40% of the movie is good spliced in between 60% of otherwise unwatchable movie. Those 40% are indeed solid Carpenter.
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I may have been too harsh on The Fog

To be fair you're not on your own. I know a few big Carpenter fans who aren't that into it. I remember reading that Carpenter himself didn't like the way it turned out, so you're in decent company.
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i finally watched glengarry glenross. after having seen that speech on youtube a lot lately.

i didn't know it was originally a david mamet play-- but that shows through in the rest of the movie. of course! good shit. pretty great script actually, and good acting. the production itself looks a bit claustrophobic, but hey, it's a filmed play. excellent performances by all!

 


to judge it just by the alec baldwin speech is a huge misunderstanding. check out the whole of it.
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