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Old 08.20.2013, 09:49 AM   #17481
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so you didn't like inglorious basterds? that was actually pretty good. and funny.

That was the movie where the penny finally dropped for me, that Tarantino is ultimately a snob. I could tolerate Inglorious until it becomes this bullshit ode to European film culture. That's Tarantino's problem. He doesn't simply like stuff, and want to celebrate it, when the dialogue in his movies reference some obscure movie or another it feels almost like a lecture, like he's somehow trying to educate his audience. Rodriguez never does that. The references are there if you know them but he never rams them down your throat. There's scenes in Planet Terror that clearly owe a lot to John Carpenter but Rodriguez never felt the need to signpost them, whereas you know the same scene directed by Tarantino would have to involve some character chastising another for not having seen The Fog.

To be fair about Inglorious though, I did really like the scenes with Brad Pitt and Christoph Waltz. The rest of it just made me cringe though.
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Old 08.20.2013, 10:05 AM   #17482
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Machete is OK. I got bored about 20 minutes in.

I don't know if I could ever get bored watching anything involving Mexican priests carrying pump action shotguns. That's just a whopping big neon 'YES!' to me.

 


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Old 08.20.2013, 10:41 AM   #17483
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That was the movie where the penny finally dropped for me, that Tarantino is ultimately a snob. I could tolerate Inglorious until it becomes this bullshit ode to European film culture. That's Tarantino's problem. He doesn't simply like stuff, and want to celebrate it, when the dialogue in his movies reference some obscure movie or another it feels almost like a lecture, like he's somehow trying to educate his audience. Rodriguez never does that. The references are there if you know them but he never rams them down your throat. There's scenes in Planet Terror that clearly owe a lot to John Carpenter but Rodriguez never felt the need to signpost them, whereas you know the same scene directed by Tarantino would have to involve some character chastising another for not having seen The Fog.

To be fair about Inglorious though, I did really like the scenes with Brad Pitt and Christoph Waltz. The rest of it just made me cringe though.

well yeah tarantino is a name-dropping video store nerd by training, and that much has been clear from the start-- sometimes this works, and sometimes like the name-dropping british agent who tries to pass for german he gets himself (and others) killed for it. (if i was into psychoanalisis, i'd look into this character as a representation of his fear and guilt. but anyway...)

i liked inglorious basterds in spite of the cringe-worthy moments (e.g., "this is jewish vengeance!"). mostly because during those moments i was still laughing at the funny shit from previous scenes. pitt and waltz were too good to let you notice much else.
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Old 08.20.2013, 10:47 AM   #17484
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I thought Basterds was great, and have seen it twice. It was a very entertaining film.

Django, however, was so boring, so awfully plotted, so unbearably written from a cracka-ass perspective, that I grew to HATE it by the final reel.
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Old 08.20.2013, 10:29 PM   #17485
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Old 08.20.2013, 10:41 PM   #17486
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Loved it! I still can't stand Death Proof and I'm not a big fan of all Rodriguez's stuff but PT was great. Love the bit when the hero has to ride a miniature motorbike, and the whole barbecue subplot. Tellingly, the only scene I didn't like was the one with Tarantino.

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On paper I should've loved this but it left me cold.

Yeah, on paper a Jack Nicholson Western would be the shit, but he did several, and they all simply suck. Its like, all of his curmudgeon characters would be so perfect, but didn't really develop fully until The Shining and after..
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Old 08.21.2013, 08:55 AM   #17487
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Yeah, on paper a Jack Nicholson Western would be the shit, but he did several, and they all simply suck.

I dunno. The Missouri Breaks is one of my favourite westerns and he's brilliant in it. He was just miscast in The Shooting. There always has to be that slightly eccentric sense of humour with him for me but in that he plays a cold killer which just isn't him. Jack Palance, yes, but not Jack Nicholson.

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Its like, all of his curmudgeon characters would be so perfect, but didn't really develop fully until The Shining and after..

I'm not sure about the curmudgeon thing. Again it's the slightly eccentric almost stoner humour that I really associate him with, so I suppose I think of his stuff from the 60s-70s like The Last Detail, Missouri Breaks, One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, Easy Rider, etc, as being his real peak. He is great in The Shining though, but even there, playing a psycho killer, he still manages to be laugh out loud funny. The "Here's Johnny" line?
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Old 08.21.2013, 01:24 PM   #17488
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Basterds was way too long.
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Old 08.22.2013, 01:50 PM   #17489
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One of the best films I have seen in a long time. Nicolas Cage, a drifter, ends up in this small town where someone mistakes him for a hitman he has hired to kill his wife. Plenty of back stabbing and double cross in this superb noir thriller.
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Old 08.22.2013, 02:50 PM   #17490
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Seen THE LAST SEDUCTION? Same director, same neo-noir fun, made a year after Red Rock West.
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Old 08.22.2013, 02:58 PM   #17491
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Basterds was way too long.

YES! Like 30 minutes shorter please

The only Tarantino flick worth 2 and 1/2 hours was Pulp Fiction, but that is because it was essentially four short-films combined so it never felt dragged out, more like episodes.
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Old 08.22.2013, 03:20 PM   #17492
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Seen THE LAST SEDUCTION? Same director, same neo-noir fun, made a year after Red Rock West.

Yeah, that movie is really enjoyable. Linda Florentino plays a superb femme fatale.
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Old 08.23.2013, 10:52 AM   #17493
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List of people that would make a better Batman than Ben Affleck:

1. Keanu Reeves
2. Casey Affleck
3. Casey Anthony
4. Carmelo Anthony
5. Rob Reiner
6. Chris Tucker
7. An actual bat
8. The Dog from "Air Bud"
9. H. Jon Benjamin.
10.Carrie Fisher
11. Neil Armstrong
12. Wayne Knight
13. George Zimmerman
14. Kim Jong-Un
15. Oogachaka Baby
16. Kermit the Frog
17. The Naked Cowboy
18. Adam West
19. Dennis Rodman
20. Bob Filner
21. Jackie Chan
22. Will Smith
23. Jet Li
24. Jason Staham
25. Ashton Kutcher
26. The fat kid from two and a half men that got fired
27. Harry Potter
28. Rubin Stutters
29. TM
30. Kate Upton
31.Simon
32.Garfunkel
33.Richard Simmons
34. Gene Simmons.
35. Gene Wilder
36. Steven Seagal
37. O.J. Simpson (post Murder)
38. O.J. Simpson (pre Murder)
39. Jason Segel
40. Me....
41. The Crypt Keeper
42. Mike Waslowski
43. Godzilla (1998)
44. Margaret Thatcher (now)
45. Russell Brand
46. Mr. Stay Pufft
47. The guy who gathers cans from my trash
48. His wife (who patiently waits in the truck)
49. Vernon Troyer
50. Tupac (as a laser hologram)
51. Bill Shatner
52. Bill Clinton
53. Bill Murray
54. Shaquille O'Neal
55. Michael Jordan
56. Michael Jackson
57. Mike Tyson
58. Hodor
59. The Rock
60. Sloth (from The Goonies)
61. Boutros Boutros-Ghali
62. William Shatner
63. Tim Tebow
64. Matt Damon
65. George Clooney
66. Terry Crews
67. Tom Welling
68. Nicolas Cage
69. Hayden Christensen
70. Michael Cera
71. The other Michael Cera (Jesse Eisenberg)
72. Will Ferrell
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Old 08.23.2013, 11:56 AM   #17494
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Old 08.23.2013, 02:19 PM   #17495
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If they really want to give Affleck a challenge make him use the classic grey and blue Batman suit, enough with the all black suit.
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Old 08.23.2013, 04:15 PM   #17496
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List of people that would make a better Batman than Ben Affleck:

1. Keanu Reeves
2. Casey Affleck
3. Casey Anthony
4. Carmelo Anthony
5. Rob Reiner
6. Chris Tucker
7. An actual bat
8. The Dog from "Air Bud"
9. H. Jon Benjamin.
10.Carrie Fisher
11. Neil Armstrong
12. Wayne Knight
13. George Zimmerman
14. Kim Jong-Un
15. Oogachaka Baby
16. Kermit the Frog
17. The Naked Cowboy
18. Adam West
19. Dennis Rodman
20. Bob Filner
21. Jackie Chan
22. Will Smith
23. Jet Li
24. Jason Staham
25. Ashton Kutcher
26. The fat kid from two and a half men that got fired
27. Harry Potter
28. Rubin Stutters
29. TM
30. Kate Upton
31.Simon
32.Garfunkel
33.Richard Simmons
34. Gene Simmons.
35. Gene Wilder
36. Steven Seagal
37. O.J. Simpson (post Murder)
38. O.J. Simpson (pre Murder)
39. Jason Segel
40. Me....
41. The Crypt Keeper
42. Mike Waslowski
43. Godzilla (1998)
44. Margaret Thatcher (now)
45. Russell Brand
46. Mr. Stay Pufft
47. The guy who gathers cans from my trash
48. His wife (who patiently waits in the truck)
49. Vernon Troyer
50. Tupac (as a laser hologram)
51. Bill Shatner
52. Bill Clinton
53. Bill Murray
54. Shaquille O'Neal
55. Michael Jordan
56. Michael Jackson
57. Mike Tyson
58. Hodor
59. The Rock
60. Sloth (from The Goonies)
61. Boutros Boutros-Ghali
62. William Shatner
63. Tim Tebow
64. Matt Damon
65. George Clooney
66. Terry Crews
67. Tom Welling
68. Nicolas Cage
69. Hayden Christensen
70. Michael Cera
71. The other Michael Cera (Jesse Eisenberg)
72. Will Ferrell
73. Colin Farrell

Haha. Brilliant.

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Old 08.24.2013, 08:32 AM   #17497
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Fuck Batman, he's a millionaire authoritarian thug.
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4. Carmelo Anthony
Cornrows tuff guy Melo or effeminate gay mustache Melo? Either way, the guy doesn't play enough defense to be Batman but that absurdity alone is what would still make it better than Ben Affleck,

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That would be fucking epic.

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22. Will Smith

What is sad, is that even after Wild Wild West, Will Smith is definitely the better candidate than fucking Ben Affleck.

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54. Shaquille O'Neal
Kazaam is still better than Ben Affleck, there, I said it. Even those terrible recent Buick commercials are better than Ben Affleck, though in truth, those commercials might be better with Ben Affleck than Shaq, so really, they could just switch.

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59. The Rock

Surprisingly this could work, the Rock is like Steven Seagal 2.0, he can sort of act, only is a much more likeable guy so you tolerate his mediocre talent.

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66. Terry Crews

 

Winner. Roll it!


But really now, why couldn't they just bring back Christian Bale, that dude kind of nailed it the way Michael Keaton did.
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