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Old 03.16.2013, 11:05 AM   #17241
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Gotcha.

I happen to think there's some variety in Bergman, but I'm probably overthinking it. There is certainly something called "Bergmanesque."

But then, Kubrick's cold, detached uber-intellectual approach never changed much either, even if he did play with different genres.

And the more I think of it, Kubrick really did suck with characters, Kirk Douglas' stuff being a good exception. For example, I can't think of any memorable female characters at all. The women serve to push or frustrate the men's desires, and that's about it.

And 2001? The only interesting character in that is a fucking computer.
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Old 03.16.2013, 11:10 AM   #17242
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By the way, has anyone watched 2001 on acid? Was it a good trip or a total bummer?
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Old 03.16.2013, 11:17 AM   #17243
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Bergman + Comedy = Woody Allen
Kubrick + Characters = P T Anderson
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Old 03.16.2013, 03:14 PM   #17244
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(I wonder how old Kubrick was when he declared WILD STRAWBERRIES his fav. Was he responding as an older man or as a young film enthusiast?)

He was about 32 I'm guessing. That letter I alluded to was written in 1960 and corresponded with his feelings on Wild Strawberries.
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Old 03.16.2013, 03:35 PM   #17245
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Paths of Glory? Spartacus?

I like Paths of Glory a lot, but I can't say much about Spartacus; it's the one I'm least familiar with.

And if I'm not mistaken, Stanley Kubrick disowned the film, didn't he? I'd like to know more about it. I think Anthony Mann was fired after one week, or something.
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Old 03.16.2013, 07:33 PM   #17246
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Spartacus is shit. Kubrick disowned it, and with good reason, and afterwards left Hollywood for England.

This was a production of egomaniac ham Kirk Douglas. That movie is an atrocity. Well Douglas knew what he was doing I suppose because they broke box office records. But as a Kubrick film, it's complete shit. When I watched it I couldn't believe it. 5/5 vomits.

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You guys have missed my point.

I didn't. I thought I explained why it is that way...
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Old 03.17.2013, 03:53 AM   #17247
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Spartacus the TV series on the other hand is my guilty pleasure. Ultra violence, ultra sex, lines like "by Jupiter's cock", show rules.
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Old 03.17.2013, 06:46 AM   #17248
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Spartacus is shit. Kubrick disowned it, and with good reason, and afterwards left Hollywood for England.

This was a production of egomaniac ham Kirk Douglas. That movie is an atrocity. Well Douglas knew what he was doing I suppose because they broke box office records. But as a Kubrick film, it's complete shit. When I watched it I couldn't believe it. 5/5 vomits.



I didn't. I thought I explained why it is that way...

I'll give you 5/5 vomits in a minute.
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Old 03.17.2013, 06:47 AM   #17249
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Spartacus is shit. Kubrick disowned it, and with good reason, and afterwards left Hollywood for England.

This was a production of egomaniac ham Kirk Douglas. That movie is an atrocity. Well Douglas knew what he was doing I suppose because they broke box office records. But as a Kubrick film, it's complete shit. When I watched it I couldn't believe it. 5/5 vomits.



I didn't. I thought I explained why it is that way...

I'll give you 5/5 vomits in a minute.
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Old 03.17.2013, 08:16 AM   #17250
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But Kubrick never made a quiet chamber piece with only two or three characters.

Eyes Wide Shut?
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Old 03.17.2013, 09:54 AM   #17251
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skyfall

waaaaay better than i expected it to be.

one thing i noted through the movie (look at the poster) was that he carries a tiny gun. 9mm short! okay for a gun of last resort/at close quarters i suppose, but had he carried something that packs more wallop he would have avoided many of the unnecessary headaches he encountered in the movie, like people running away from him. ha!

 


but anyway, sam mendes, not bad... not bad at all...
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Old 03.17.2013, 10:18 AM   #17252
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one thing i noted through the movie (look at the poster) was that he carries a tiny gun. 9mm short! okay for a gun of last resort/at close quarters i suppose, but had he carried something that packs more wallop he would have avoided many of the unnecessary headaches he encountered in the movie, like people running away from him. ha!



Tell that to those that disliked "Quantum of Solace". Also there's a joke here about how its not the size of the gun...."


 
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Old 03.17.2013, 10:51 AM   #17253
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Tell that to those that disliked "Quantum of Solace". Also there's a joke here about how its not the size of the gun...."


 

ah ha ha ha. either haven't seen or don't remember QoS, but in this movie bond keeps shooting at people and nothing happens to them. i'm like "larger caliber, longer barrel, asshole!"

but "action logic" aside (it's always absurd anyway), the choreographies were excellent (e.g. the fight w/ the sniper), and they did nice things with the character i thought. shamelessly batmanesque, but it works.
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Old 03.17.2013, 02:52 PM   #17254
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Old 03.18.2013, 09:17 AM   #17255
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ingmar bergman's persona. 9/10. last five minutes was a little tedious and anti-climatic. enjoyed it nonetheless. creepy late night film.
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Old 03.18.2013, 10:24 AM   #17256
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Old 03.18.2013, 01:50 PM   #17257
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Gomorrah

While I still prefer the book, this gets better the more times I watch it.
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Old 03.18.2013, 01:52 PM   #17258
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ive been meaning to watch gomorrah ever since it came out...
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Give it a go. It's pretty good. It gets better after watching it a few times and even then isn't amazing but still worth two hours of your time. Be prepared, though, for any romantic ideas you might have about Naples to be well and truly quashed.

Plenty of this ...

 


Not much of this ...

 
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