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Old 05.13.2013, 09:29 AM   #16981
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^ I'll play along.

Who was the other writer?
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Old 05.13.2013, 09:42 AM   #16982
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Cannot find the guy's name. pre the movie release tarantino mentioned several times about how Django came about and how he co-wrote it with someone, but I cannot find the name right now. either way, not a good movie.
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Old 05.13.2013, 09:52 AM   #16983
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I'm sure you're right but I've not heard anything about Tarantino collaborating while writing Django. Whoever it was they certainly received no credit. Although I did read somewhere that Will Smith was prepared to star in it as long as there were some rewrites to his character, but Tarantino wouldn't do it.
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Old 05.13.2013, 10:03 AM   #16984
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i loved it. tarantino makes great pastiches. and the doctor's lines i found hilarious.
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Old 05.13.2013, 12:21 PM   #16985
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Hm. I know Richard Avery got fucked for Pulp Fiction (wasn't allowed to go to Cannes--forced his way into the Academy Awards). But I haven't heard this one.

Dr. Schultz is one of my favorite characters in recent movies, which makes me like the movie.

But he gets killed so stupidly and by acting out of character, which makes me hate the movie.

The whole thing made me a little sick and I didn't have much fun. But his new musical comedy about ethnic cleansing in Bosnia should be a hoot.
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Old 05.13.2013, 12:42 PM   #16986
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I'm sure you're right but I've not heard anything about Tarantino collaborating while writing Django. Whoever it was they certainly received no credit. Although I did read somewhere that Will Smith was prepared to star in it as long as there were some rewrites to his character, but Tarantino wouldn't do it.

Haha Will Smith said he didn't want to do it as his character wasn't the lead. What a douche.
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Old 05.13.2013, 01:19 PM   #16987
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Haha Will Smith said he didn't want to do it as his character wasn't the lead. What a douche.

he probably insisted his son get a lead role and they told him no
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Old 05.13.2013, 01:32 PM   #16988
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Old 05.13.2013, 01:51 PM   #16989
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Old 05.13.2013, 02:24 PM   #16990
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Dr. Schultz is one of my favorite characters in recent movies, which makes me like the movie.

yesss. he was excellent.

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But [spoiler spoiler spoiler] which makes me hate the movie.

i see the lack of intelligence in the moment but like he said "he couldn't help himself" which given what just had happened i find understandable. cuz it was much more than he was used to (or us as an audience). so i don't see it as out of character but rather it makes him a little more human, as it adds a bit of chaos (people aren't generally 100% predictable either). though in terms of the dramatic line it was (i thought) pretty predictable that this would happen somehow.

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The whole thing made me a little sick and I didn't have much fun. But his new musical comedy about ethnic cleansing in Bosnia should be a hoot.

large parts of it made me ill, like the lashes and the mandingo fights and the dogs (so did pulp fiction btw, with all that heroin business and brains in the car and shit), but while in pulp fiction it eventually becomes self-evident that it's all stage blood (ketchup), here after all that cringing and gnashing of teeth the sweet taste of retribution more than made up for it.

isn't drama supposed to fuck with our emotions? it was quite the rollercoaster, and the sucka gets honest applause from me.
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Old 05.13.2013, 02:47 PM   #16991
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last 30 minutes were boring.
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Old 05.13.2013, 03:08 PM   #16992
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last 30 minutes were boring.

What like with most Tarantino flicks?
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(i thought) pretty predictable that this would happen somehow.


Eh. Your explanation is generous. I'll give you that.

I was thinking, "The white guy can't end up 'rescuing' the black guy. He'll have to die."

Is that what you mean?

Still, I hated that part.

Great idea: let's have a prequel, dealing solely with Schultz.

ps- I thought the use of the word "cracker" was very over the line, in bad taste, and very offensive.

pss- Sorry. I don't care about spoilers, so I forget that others do.
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Eh. Your explanation is generous. I'll give you that.

I was thinking, "spoliler."

Is that what you mean?

SPOILER>>>>>

no, it's not about "race", cuz it would have been easy to set up a situation where django saved the dentist, but rather, it's a common trope, since the ancient gods, that one has to die for others to live (christianity stole that), and since django had to save his wife and it's an american movie neither could die-- hence it had to be the doctor cuz he was next in line. in a french movie on the other hand they would all have died in a heroic but futile attempt before achieving victory/freedom (sisyphus!)

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Still, I hated that part.

s'allright! yeah i was like "how come these bitches are so good elsewhere but here they act like turtleheads". in retrospect, it's a bit of an arbitrary plot device, but at the time i got over it quickly. what i mean is, kill schultz to satisfy the need for human sacrifices, but kill him better.

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Great idea: let's have a prequel, dealing solely with Schultz.

oh man, that would be awesome

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ps- I thought the use of the word "cracker" was very over the line, in bad taste, and very offensive.

didn't catch that, but wouldn't have cared-- i just heard "nigger" said 9,999 times

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^^^SPOILER ALERT!!!!!
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-Hey, if you're figuring Tarantino was thinking more about ancient tragedy than race, then I again admire your generosity. Actually, based on your analysis, I realized this trope crops up a lot in . . . Westerns. It was an "aha" moment for me.

-Totally joking about "cracker."

-However awesome a Schultz movie would be (and in my head right now, it's the best movie ever made) we'll have to wait. He's currently working on Kill Bill Part 3.
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-Hey, if you're figuring Tarantino was thinking more about ancient tragedy than race, then I again admire your generosity.

well he actually throws you a hint-- schultz refers to the story of siegfried and brunhilde and while that's not 100% ancient it's wagner based on norse myth.

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Actually, based on your analysis, I realized this trope crops up a lot in . . . Westerns. It was an "aha" moment for me.

borges used to say (before he was dead and before he lost his sight completely) that the western was the last form of the epic

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-Totally joking about "cracker."

ha!

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-However awesome a Schultz movie would be (and in my head right now, it's the best movie ever made) we'll have to wait. He's currently working on Kill Bill Part 3.

ugh... KILL kill bill... :/
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well he actually throws you a hint-- schultz refers to the story of siegfried and brunhilde and while that's not 100% ancient it's wagner based on norse myth.



borges used to say (before he was dead and before he lost his sight completely) that the western was the last form of the epic



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A kill bill prequel is the only way I can see a third volume not being terrible.

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I think tarantino lost his magic when he became an insider about 5-7 years ago. I liked the more underground and gritty without being gratuitous or contrived, its almost like Tarantino flicks have become cliches of themselves :X
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