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Old 01.12.2013, 04:30 PM   #16961
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Melancolia

I have to say that Lars von Trier is one favourite directors, I've loved everything I've seen of his, and Melancolia is no exception, magnificent to say the least. The whole concept of film is just refreshing spin on the whole pre-apocalypse film, with amazing dramatic fashion. Casting Charlotte Gainsbourg yet again will always get my thumbs up, beautiful and talented. Also casting Kirsten Dunst for the lead is another smart move, I believe that she is one of the few mainstream North American actresses that has a lot artistic credibility, without being marred too much for the "other" films she has has been in. As for the planet Melancolia, I wish I saw more of it! Fantastic CG! The universe is a incredible place, a starry sky has always stirred something inside of me, maybe the feeling of smallness, or the realization of an unknown world outside our atmosphere, I feel that this film captured that feeling.
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Old 01.14.2013, 12:44 PM   #16962
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Melancolia

I have to say that Lars von Trier is one favourite directors, I've loved everything I've seen of his, and Melancolia is no exception, magnificent to say the least. The whole concept of film is just refreshing spin on the whole pre-apocalypse film, with amazing dramatic fashion. Casting Charlotte Gainsbourg yet again will always get my thumbs up, beautiful and talented. Also casting Kirsten Dunst for the lead is another smart move, I believe that she is one of the few mainstream North American actresses that has a lot artistic credibility, without being marred too much for the "other" films she has has been in. As for the planet Melancolia, I wish I saw more of it! Fantastic CG! The universe is a incredible place, a starry sky has always stirred something inside of me, maybe the feeling of smallness, or the realization of an unknown world outside our atmosphere, I feel that this film captured that feeling.

Absolutely agree. It seems to have a lower profile than a lot of his other films, maybe because it's far less controversial but its one of my favourites by him. And completely agree about Kirsten Dunst, too.

A couple of films I watched over the weekend:

 


The Big Combo

Excellent 50s B Movie Noir that doesn't get the respect or attention it deserves

 


The Maltese Falcon

For what it is, this is pretty much faultless. One of the best casts and some of the sharpest dialogue ever in a Hollywood film. I honestly don't see how anyone couldn't love this, or at least like it a helluva lot.
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Old 01.14.2013, 01:44 PM   #16963
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some of the sharpest dialogue ever in a Hollywood film.

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Bryan: Who killed Thursby?
Sam Spade: I don't know.
Bryan: Perhaps you don't, but you could make an excellent guess.
Sam Spade: My guess might be excellent or it might be crummy, but Mrs. Spade didn't raise any children dippy enough to make guesses in front of a district attorney, and an assistant district attorney and a stenographer.
Bryan: Why shouldn't you, if you have nothing to conceal?
Sam Spade: Everybody has something to conceal.
Bryan: I'm a sworn officer of the law, 24 hours a day, and neither formality nor informality justifies you withholding evidence of crime from me. Except, of course, on constitutional grounds.
Sam Spade: [ranting] Now, both you and the police have as much as accused me of being mixed up in the other night's murders. Well, I've had trouble with both of you before. And as far as I can see my best chance of clearing myself of the trouble you're trying to make for me, is by bringing in the murderers all tied up. And the only chance I've got of catching them, and tying them up, and bringing them in, is by staying as far away as possible from you and the police, because you'd only gum up the works.
[turns to stenographer]
Sam Spade: You getting this all right, son, or am I goin' too fast for ya?
Stenographer: No, sir, I'm getting it all right.
Sam Spade: Good work.
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Old 01.14.2013, 03:08 PM   #16964
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Yeah, it;s one of those movies that isn't a comedy but manages to be far funnier than most that are, just for its sharpness. People go on about the speed of todays culture but some of that dialogue, I had to skip back on the DVD a few times, just to keep up. But it's the delivery, too. Individually, Bogart, Sydney Greenstreet, Peter Lorre would own almost any scene. In the same room, bouncing lines off one another, it's just laugh out loud good.
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Old 01.14.2013, 05:06 PM   #16965
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Great film. Save for-WHO DID THE FUCKING MURDER!
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Old 01.14.2013, 05:51 PM   #16966
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Old 01.15.2013, 02:36 AM   #16967
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Great film. Save for-WHO DID THE FUCKING MURDER!

It's The Big Sleep that has the "but who killed the chauffeur?" problem. Apparently even Raymond Chandler couldn't answer that one.
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Old 01.15.2013, 03:14 AM   #16968
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It's The Big Sleep that has the "but who killed the chauffeur?" problem. Apparently even Raymond Chandler couldn't answer that one.

Yeah I was lying in bed last night and just before I fell asleep it hit me "It was The Big Sleep, you bloody idiot!"
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Old 01.15.2013, 10:46 AM   #16969
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Oh, just the usual low/no budget flaws: bad acting for the most part, clumsy handling of action, and so on.

At the end though, I was really moved.


Ok yeah I see where you're coming from. I mostly agree, which is what makes it even more astonishing that I really enjoyed it.
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Also, I really like The Big Sleep. I'm not well-grounded when it comes to films starring Humphrey Bogart though.
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Old 01.17.2013, 10:49 AM   #16972
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Off the top of my head, I don't think I've ever seen a 'bad' Bogart movie, but I suppose the classic ones are still Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep and In a Lonely Place. Of all of them, I imagine you'd like In a Lonely Place the best. It's probably his darkest, most minimal film and the one where he's given the most freedom in terms of acting. It's directed by Nicholas Ray, too, which inevitably puts it at an advantage. As a general rule of thumb, though, if Bogart's name is on the poster it'll probably be at least decent.

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Boardwalk Empire (Series One)

I've only managed the first couple of episodes but considering it's directed by Scorsese, it's massively disappointing. It's wrong to compare TV series to movies but considering how good a lot of HBO's other stuff has been, this is way below par. I'm starting to think Scorsese has now completely lost the plot.
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Old 01.17.2013, 11:51 AM   #16973
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Old 01.17.2013, 11:59 AM   #16974
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I tried Boardwalk Empire too. Got 3 eps in and got BORED sick. Maybe it gets better? I could care less....
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Old 01.17.2013, 12:11 PM   #16975
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I tried Boardwalk Empire too. Got 3 eps in and got BORED sick. Maybe it gets better? I could care less....

Yeah, I've dropped it off my rental list. I should give it a better chance; I nearly wrote Treme off after the first few episodes and now I really love it. BE just seems like a stinker through and through, though. As you say, I could care less.

On the subject of Treme, I just finished the first series. I still think its flawed (too much music, too sentimental a view of New Orleans, too earnest in general) but it finally clicked with me. I even like the Davis character now, and started to feel something for John Goodman's character (who I couldn't stand in the first few episodes) as his fate became more and more evident. Plus I've developed a ginormous crush on Kandhi Alexander.
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Old 01.17.2013, 10:40 PM   #16976
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Oh. I didn't get that.

See, I think most Hollywood films are "good." Well made, well acted, good enough conflict for 90 minutes. My mistake to expect more.

You're right though. Lovely scenery. (Although I was wondering why Liam took the part. Even if he loved the script, filming in the cold must really suck. Unless it was all a soundstage, in which case give an Oscar to the art department.)

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LIVING END- Amazing how a film can be poorly made on nearly every technical level, yet still total to a great flick.


Can someone hip me to more "real" indie cinema of the late 80s, early 90s? Pretend I already know about Jarmusch, Soderbergh, van Sants and Reservoir Dogs. I wanna get really indie. Nothing before 1985 and nothing past 1993 please. I think I'll check out gas, food, lodging later.




A few ideas about indie cinema for you:

1) Anything by Nick Gomez but especially "Laws of Gravity" and "illtown" (if you can find them) 1992 and 1996
2) Tony Drazan's films "Imaginary Crimes" or "Zebrahead" 1994 and 1992
3) Lodge Kerrigan's "Clean, Shaven" 1993
4) Greg Mottola's "The Daytrippers" 1996
5) Atom Egoyan's "Exotica" 1994
6) Michel Negropontes' "Jupiter's Wife" 1994 (a haunting documentary)
7) Michael Almereyda's "Nadja" (1994)
8) Julie Dash's "Daughters of the Dust" 1991
9) Leslie Harris' "Just Another Girl on the I.R.T." 1992
10) anything by Abel Ferrera but especially "The Funeral" and "Dangerous Game" 1996 and 1994




god this was an exciting time for cinema that I remember like yesterday.... being given a VHS copy of "Reservoir Dogs" or "Laws of Gravity" and watching cinema being changed. stumbling across movies by Hal Hartley or Ferrera daily and then homefilmfestival.com (anyone a member of that???) launching in 1996 and being able to rent Hou Hsiao Hsien and Jean Luc Godard VHS tapes through the mail!
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Savages, terrible. Then Oldboy, again. It was again fantastic.
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Old 01.18.2013, 12:01 AM   #16978
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Off the top of my head, I don't think I've ever seen a 'bad' Bogart movie, but I suppose the classic ones are still Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep and In a Lonely Place. Of all of them, I imagine you'd like In a Lonely Place the best. It's probably his darkest, most minimal film and the one where he's given the most freedom in terms of acting. It's directed by Nicholas Ray, too, which inevitably puts it at an advantage. As a general rule of thumb, though, if Bogart's name is on the poster it'll probably be at least decent.

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Boardwalk Empire (Series One)

I've only managed the first couple of episodes but considering it's directed by Scorsese, it's massively disappointing. It's wrong to compare TV series to movies but considering how good a lot of HBO's other stuff has been, this is way below par. I'm starting to think Scorsese has now completely lost the plot.

BOGART: you gotta check out treasure of the sierra madre!

BOARDWALK EMPIRE: why you not like? its pretty fucking great! ive watched 2 seasons and i really liked it-- not as much as teh wire but i liked it lots. plus great BJM opening credits
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god this was an exciting time for cinema that I remember like yesterday....


Yeah, I've been trying to re-capture that feeling. Good list.
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