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Old 10.22.2012, 01:58 PM   #16721
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Shutter Island.

I most more impressed with the good things, even more laughing at the more nonsensical aspects. Oh yeah, and I wish they would have ended it more openly rather then giving away that he was just crazy, if the Dr/Chuck hadn't come into the scene, we could have still suspected it was some kind of NAZI conspiracy, but alas, poor directing which killed the potential for a thrilling ending..
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Old 10.23.2012, 05:17 AM   #16722
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Monica Vitti.... she's 80 years old but I'd still marry her

I've not seen what she looks like now but in her day she was almost unfathomably beautiful.

 


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Moneyball

I imagine o lot of potential viewers for this were put off by the fact it's about baseball. It's a real gem, though. Brad Pitt is great in it and well deserved his oscar nomination, although (predictably) Phillip Seymour Hoffman does steal the show a bit. Highly recommended.
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Old 10.23.2012, 12:18 PM   #16723
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I've watched Taxi Driver to check that I wouldn't fall asleep halfway through the film once again but I did. Maybe it was because I've watched too many episodes of Louie (God, I so LOVE this tv show! Check out the episode with D. Lynch on it) until the early hours of Sunday, or it's just that this movie puts me sleep no matter what. I'll give it another go.

louie is the best. i can't remember david lynch on it, probably because hulu stopped showing the new episodes and i have to wait until they are up on netflix. or maybe i actually saw it but just forgot. my memory is full of holes like that, especially concerning tv shows, because i watch so many. but louie, anyway, rules.

ANYWAY, i am no big fan of taxi driver either. i mean yes, beautifully shot and all, but i don't think i like stories by paul schraeder. i mean it's always this dismal darkness and desperation of a lonely maladapted guy in a big city having a psychotic breakdown (taxi driver) or having his brains beaten to a pulp (raging bull). i'm sorry if i mischaracterize the guy with such broad generalization but if i wanted to watch yet-another psychotic breakdown all i'd have to do is look inside my own head. just saying.
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Old 10.23.2012, 12:23 PM   #16724
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I imagine o lot of potential viewers for this were put off by the fact it's about baseball. It's a real gem, though. Brad Pitt is great in it and well deserved his oscar nomination, although (predictably) Phillip Seymour Hoffman does steal the show a bit. Highly recommended.

i'm actually put off by the fact that brad pitt is in it, but i'm encouraged by the fact that aaron sorkin had a hand in that screenplay.

sorkin is one of those guys that turns anything he touches into gold, like a more grownup-minded joss whedon (one likes politics and technology and smart professionals, the other likes comics and superheroes). another used to be charlie kauffman, but i think he might have gone off the deep end because i haven't seen him make anything since synecdoche new york. get well, charlie!
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I saw Eyes Wide Shut last night and honestly think it's my favorite thing Stanley Kubrick directed.
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Old 10.23.2012, 02:05 PM   #16726
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watched POOTIE TANG again a couple of nights ago, in a green haze.

as a silly, stupid, fun waste of time, 10/10

as a movie? 4/10


I also saw a movie called Cellmates
it was corny,yet true to itself. 6/10
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Old 10.23.2012, 03:38 PM   #16727
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I saw Eyes Wide Shut last night and honestly think it's my favorite thing Stanley Kubrick directed.

Nah that goes to 2001 or The Shining for me. Nicole Kidman in Eyes Wide Shut just ruins it for me. That scene where Cruise and Kidman smoke pot is just cringe worthy.
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Old 10.23.2012, 04:22 PM   #16728
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i'm actually put off by the fact that brad pitt is in it, but i'm encouraged by the fact that aaron sorkin had a hand in that screenplay.

sorkin is one of those guys that turns anything he touches into gold, like a more grownup-minded joss whedon (one likes politics and technology and smart professionals, the other likes comics and superheroes). another used to be charlie kauffman, but i think he might have gone off the deep end because i haven't seen him make anything since synecdoche new york. get well, charlie!

I don't know anything about the screenwriter but the screenplay is very good. Brad Pitt is superb. I think he's been very good for a while now and has never been exactly bad. I honestly don't understand the negativity a lot of people feel towards him. Perhaps he's just too good looking for his own good. Either way, give it a go. I'd be seriously surprised if you don't end up liking it.
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I don't know anything about the screenwriter but the screenplay is very good. Brad Pitt is superb. I think he's been very good for a while now and has never been exactly bad. I honestly don't understand the negativity a lot of people feel towards him. Perhaps he's just too good looking for his own good. Either way, give it a go. I'd be seriously surprised if you don't end up liking it.


sorkin is a playwright and screenwriter who i think first got famous with "a few good men". then he went on to write a little tv show called "sports night" that was actually pretty good, considering, and from then he wrote what's probably the best show in the history of network tv (network, not cable)-- "the west wing." he was there for 3+ seasons and then was caught with a rock of crack at some airport and the show kept running for 3 or 4 more seasons but it was shit compared to the beginning.

went into recovery, not sure for how long, wrote "charlie wilson's war" which was pretty good in spite of having tom hanks in it, and more recently wrote the screenplay for "the social network," which you've prolly heard about.

his trademarks-- an obsession with politics, an obsession with smart overachieving characters, snappy clever dialogue (much like whedon but on more grownup subjects such as legal doctrines or nuclear warfare strategy), a strange love of gilbert & sullivan, highly functional drunks (tv ratings experts, white house chiefs of staff, u.s.senators), health-challenged elders (u.s. president w/ multiple sclerosis, t.v. station general manager recovering from a stroke), a weird love of gilbert+ sullivan, and various other "tics" that make him recognizable once you've watched enough of his stuff.

why we hate the prettyboy: exactly for the reason you mention. i remember i first liked his work in "12 monkeys" actually. but it's always grating, like you need to get his ridiculous celebrity out of the way in order to get to his acting. also probably jealousy that he gets to bang angelina raw, ha ha haaaa.
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Old 10.23.2012, 05:32 PM   #16730
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Sorkin's Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip turned to shit before its 20-something episode run.

His new one, Newsroom couldn't make it to ten episodes before it started to suck. I mean, there was a drop in quality after the first episode, and by the fourth the whole thing had crashed to crap.

He's very fast paced, so you don't notice the huge plot holes and the shameless sentimentality of his stuff right off the bat. But once you go over what just happened in your mind, it's like, "What the fuck?"

His dialogue is superbly entertaining. It's the reason I don't dismiss him entirely as an over-rated hack. I love a good one-liner, and if that's his one trick, he does it great. I could listen to that stuff all day. (And don't give me nonsense about the dialogue not being realistic. That's to life's discredit, not Sorkin's.)

Now, if he could match Mamet's natural story-telling ability, he might be on to something.
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Old 10.23.2012, 05:43 PM   #16731
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oh i haven't watched studio 60 or newsroom yet. as for sorkin, yeah, he's not "great at everything" (who is?) but i guess the verdict "witty, for an american" comes to mind. still i'll check out moneyballz lolol.
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Old 10.23.2012, 06:24 PM   #16732
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sorkin is a playwright and screenwriter who i think first got famous with "a few good men". then he went on to write a little tv show called "sports night" that was actually pretty good, considering, and from then he wrote what's probably the best show in the history of network tv (network, not cable)-- "the west wing." he was there for 3+ seasons and then was caught with a rock of crack at some airport and the show kept running for 3 or 4 more seasons but it was shit compared to the beginning.

went into recovery, not sure for how long, wrote "charlie wilson's war" which was pretty good in spite of having tom hanks in it, and more recently wrote the screenplay for "the social network," which you've prolly heard about.

his trademarks-- an obsession with politics, an obsession with smart overachieving characters, snappy clever dialogue (much like whedon but on more grownup subjects such as legal doctrines or nuclear warfare strategy), a strange love of gilbert & sullivan, highly functional drunks (tv ratings experts, white house chiefs of staff, u.s.senators), health-challenged elders (u.s. president w/ multiple sclerosis, t.v. station general manager recovering from a stroke), a weird love of gilbert+ sullivan, and various other "tics" that make him recognizable once you've watched enough of his stuff.

why we hate the prettyboy: exactly for the reason you mention. i remember i first liked his work in "12 monkeys" actually. but it's always grating, like you need to get his ridiculous celebrity out of the way in order to get to his acting. also probably jealousy that he gets to bang angelina raw, ha ha haaaa.

If he wrote the West Wing, then I'm a Sorkin fan without having realised. And your mentioning certain key themes in his screenplays definitely fits with Moneyball, which is ultimately about the behind the scenes politics of baseball.
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Old 10.23.2012, 06:45 PM   #16733
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I've not seen what she looks like now but in her day she was almost unfathomably beautiful.

 


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Moneyball

I imagine o lot of potential viewers for this were put off by the fact it's about baseball. It's a real gem, though. Brad Pitt is great in it and well deserved his oscar nomination, although (predictably) Phillip Seymour Hoffman does steal the show a bit. Highly recommended.

Why would Baseball put people off? The movie was great; probably my favorite of 2011. And Pitt hasn't NOT deserved an Oscar nod since the 90s. He's an incredible actor.
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Old 10.23.2012, 07:11 PM   #16734
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> conventional, but very enjoyable teenage movie. Typically Dante.
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Well, I disagree, but you make a good point. I also thought Bane's death was anticlimactic. However, I think Nolan showed us an immensely flawed Batman. human Batman, with hubris and cockiness and a number of other fundamentally human traits. I think there were some unrealistic aspects as well, but not enough of then to make me think less of the film.

While watching it the second time, I realized how truly terrifying Bane was. The character was, for the most part, perfectly executed. His delivery was impeccable and he was deeply unnerving. I think a lot of people were disappointed in the film because Batman is absent for pretty much the entire film, but Bruce Wayne was there.. He wasn't very badass as Batman in this film and he didn't do a hell of a lot, but that's actually refreshing for a "superhero" movie.

I don't know... Maybe I'm biased. But when I say it was done to perfection I don't necessarily mean that every moment was perfect. I just mean the Batman story has been put to film in such an incredible way that I think DC needs to just let it be, and enjoy the fact that these movies have made Batman the most popular comic character in the world. They have made the ONLY comic book adaptation series that doesn't suck (seriously, show me another trilogy or series that has been pulled off so consistently and so well) and that the films are actually being viewed as great cinematic achievements. What more could they ask for? They have made history, and won oscars, and legitimately put the character to film in a way that has never been done before.

Why spoil it by trying to do it again? It would be like "rebooting" Lord of the Rings. Fuck it! Focus on building on their other characters! Leave the goddamn Batman alone and let this series define him.

Late response here,

I had a weird feeling the entire time I was watching TDKR, and I think there are a few reasons for that. For one, it felt strange not seeing The Joker or even getting the slightest mention of where he is or what he ended up doing after the events in The Dark Knight. He was easily the most important character introduced in the sequel and this just felt like a completely different film. I understand why Nolan left him out I suppose, but you basically have THREE crucial characters from the sequel that were either killed off or not included in the final installment, so it was a very odd feeling to me that they'd just fast forward eight years and retire the Batman after his career was literally in the very early stages.

The Dark Knight is my favorite film of the trilogy and I think the pacing is a lot smoother in that one. Perhaps even The Dark Knight is overdone, but I found it more interesting to see The Joker challenge the people of Gotham with those morality scenes such as the boat scene at the end or the one where Batman had to choose between Harvey and Rachel and watch one of them die. In the final movie, despite how much I also loved Bane's delivery, it just wasn't as thrilling to me that all he had in mind was the same thing Ra's Al Ghul attempted in the first movie... basically just to blow up the city with some deadly weapon.

I just thought I'd mention these things. I still think The Dark Knight Rises has a lot of positives, and I enjoyed it for the most part. But if in the right hands, I'd accept another film in the future. Either way, it should indeed be left alone for a while.
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Bane sucked. Bane sucked in the comix and he sucked in the movie. stupid concept, no wit, no intelligence to match against Batman.
Batman uses genius intelligence and physical rigor to defeat insane criminals. Bane was just a stupid oaf. anyone with a gun could have killed him at any time, and ended the whole stupid thing.

I have watched it thrice now, and every time it gets more ridiculous.

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yes... see if you can catch "sports night" somewhere (it's on netflix here) and you'll spot his origins. it's not a great production or anything (looks/feels very 90s), but its characters, if at first perhaps dull, will start to grow interesting after a few episodes.
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Thanks, I just put it on my Lovefilm list (similar to Netflix). It'll at least break up the Paris Hilton movie marathon I'm currently in the middle of.
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Bane sucked. Bane sucked in the comix and he sucked in the movie. stupid concept, no wit, no intelligence to match against Batman.
Batman uses genius intelligence and physical rigor to defeat insane criminals. Bane was just a stupid oaf. anyone with a gun could have killed him at any time, and ended the whole stupid thing.

I have watched it thrice now, and every time it gets more ridiculous.

Batman never retires, ever ever. He is eternal. It is bruce wayne that is the mask. Nolan is a crybaby bitch.

Bane was an admittedly weak character throughout much of his comic career, but that's a issue of execution. He was supposed to be Batmans equal, in both strength and intelligence. He was never really written that way though. I think Nolan and Tom Hardy did an excellent job of turning him into a realistic, genuinely threatening, and pretty self-contained villain. Thalia is only a "bad guy" for ten minutes. I actually think Bane is somehow more sinister than the Joker was. After all, in Nolan's world he was an agent of anarchy and unpredictability. He's not evil incarnate. He's just THE personification of violent energy and collective social psychological suppression of madness.

The joker had a lesson to teach us (at least until he realized his hypothesis about humanity was wrong, at which point he went batshit and beat Batmans ass faster than anyone ever has before)..,. He gave people a choice. Bane makes a point of giving only the illusion of choice, just so the final damage will hurt thatch more. He just wants to kill people and end lives, and he cares about nothing else (except for Thalia's hot ass which he would no doubt tap if he didn't feel a paternal affection for her).

He was far and away the highlight of the film, which surprised me.

When I saw the Dark Knight trailer, I knew I was going to love it. I didn't know I was going to love the second until after I'd already seen it. It just didn't sound like a great idea, honestly. But he'll, the second time through I was afraid I'd be bored. Instead, I held in my piss until I thought I was going to drown, and I took in every moment. I guess I can see how some might be disappointed, but I have to ask: why spend 9 hours watching a movie that you think (and, for the second and third time, know) sucks?!

The Dark Knight is clearly the best film, with its only flaw being the appearance of the guy who played Spawn as the token black gangster who luckily gets fucking killed. But I am totally happy with the trilogy and the way it ended, and I don't think I've ever felt that way about ANY film trilogy before. This is impressive because I am notoriously picky when it comes to "superhero" based films. There have only been about seven in history that are worth watching, and Nolan just flushed out the top three.

Iron Man 3 is about as exciting a prospect as sniffing a bucket that the guy from Coldplay just farted in.

I am looking forward to Skyfall, but that's a little different.
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