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Old 08.15.2012, 04:06 PM   #16401
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the best rape and revenge movie i have seen was "thriller: a cruel movie"


it's swedish and the style of it all seemed pretty artsy and realist and i thought it was supposed to be some serious message movie.


and then when i looked at who made it... it was all porno people! the sex scenes in this movie scared the shit out of me, but if they were intended to be sexy that just makes the movie more scary

the lead actress was great too, it's a shame she didn't make any non pornos

I was a bit disappointed with Thriller. I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, I just think that without all of its 'transgressive' elements it really drag on. I should watch it again. Isn't it meant to have been one of the main inspirations behind Kill Bill?
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Old 08.18.2012, 01:02 AM   #16402
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Talking about ''rape and revenge'' movies, I like Abel Ferrara's ''Ms. 45'' and I've never watched any of his other movies. Any recommendations are super welcome.




Huge Fererra fan here. I'm probably in the minority, but one of my faves is "Dangerous Game" aka Snake Eyes from 1992 with Keitel and Madonna. It's a gruesome psychological study about a director and his two actors whose personal lives violently blur with the film they're working on. There are one or two scenes so tough to watch.... its a masterpiece that got shat upon when it was released.

I also really love "The Funeral", but both of these are not goood starting points for his work. I'd recommend "Bad Lt.", "King of New York" or "R-Xmas" as better places to start. And damn it, I'm still looking for a copy of his still unreleased "Mary" or "Go Go Tales" if anyone knows......
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Old 08.18.2012, 01:28 AM   #16403
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Amazing? I say yes.


I rewatched Kikujiro, a feel good summer film.


yep, one of the best movies I've seen in a while. Kikujiro is my favorite that I've seen from that director. It's one of the few films I can put on that makes me feel happy for a moment.
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Old 08.18.2012, 01:30 AM   #16404
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Death Wish II is still the daddy of the rape revenge movie for me.

I was going to watch the first one really soon... never have. Is it good too? I've pushed it to the side a little for the last couple of days but maybe I should just watch it...
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Old 08.18.2012, 04:02 AM   #16405
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Thanks for the recommendations. I haven't watched ''Death Wish II'' and "Bad Lieutenant" for whatever reason. Since I've posted about ''I Spit on Your Grave'', check out without a critical mindset ''Naked Vengeance'', a movie which plagiarises it a bit but manages to improve the rope murder by the lake by combining it with a more creative use of the speedboat.
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Old 08.18.2012, 06:00 AM   #16406
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Bad Lieutenant is ace. I got good memories of watching that lying in bed with vodka disguised in a water bottle. Also with friends at college used to re-enact the part where Harvey Keitel is wanking in the street. Good times.
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Old 08.18.2012, 07:40 AM   #16407
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Ferrara : The Funeral, it has Chris Penn in his best role (awarded in Berlin or Venice, one of these two), and Del Toro's great, and there's Walken, Gallo...
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Old 08.18.2012, 08:00 AM   #16408
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people might laugh at me for saying this here, where this movie gets so much love, but i tried watching bad lieutenant and got fucking bored to tears.

so harvey keitel wanders about the city, snorts coke, tries to win increasing gambles at the world series, fucks hookers, steals from thieves-- and i just wanted it to be over. why? because in a way nothing happens. addicts on a bender are always the same and it's fucking boring. maybe i waited too long to watch this because it was nothing new to me at this point.

the best thing i got from it was learning about the beautiful cokehead/junkie who wrote the script-- she was a curious person, and i've looked at her photos trying to decipher her life: http://zoelund.com/ .
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Old 08.18.2012, 08:14 AM   #16409
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ugh, i love Bad Lieutenant. late 80's, early 90's New York at it's best. the so called "rethought" with Nicolas is not shabby either.

great story about a disenchanted cop. i should know because i work with one.
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Old 08.18.2012, 08:42 AM   #16410
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I struggled with Bad Lieutenant...
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people might laugh at me for saying this here, where this movie gets so much love, but i tried watching bad lieutenant and got fucking bored to tears.
Bad Lieutenant? Bad film more like. Chortle.
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Old 08.18.2012, 06:08 PM   #16411
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yep, one of the best movies I've seen in a while. Kikujiro is my favorite that I've seen from that director. It's one of the few films I can put on that makes me feel happy for a moment.

Kikujiro is so heartfelt and honest, its the first film in a long time I've had urges to watch it again just a couples days of viewing it.
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Old 08.18.2012, 07:13 PM   #16412
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Ferrara : The Funeral, it has Chris Penn in his best role (awarded in Berlin or Venice, one of these two), and Del Toro's great, and there's Walken, Gallo...

Given its cast that really should've been a far better film than it is.
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Old 08.19.2012, 03:45 AM   #16413
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Old 08.19.2012, 04:28 AM   #16414
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Old 08.19.2012, 05:26 AM   #16415
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It's almost embarrassing how much I love that film.
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Old 08.19.2012, 08:29 AM   #16416
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It's almost embarrassing how much I love that film.
I thought Gary Weis did a an excellent job at portraying the gangs without scrutinising their lives in what could have turned out to be a too journalistic, judgmental way. A new favourite for sure.

I am watching several episodes of a manga tv series called ''Lone Wolf and Cub'', which was a big favourite of mine as a kid. Apparently a total of 7 films have been based on this manga and I never knew about it until today!!

 
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Old 08.19.2012, 11:21 AM   #16417
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I'm just amazed 80 Blocks doesn't have a bigger cult following. Have you seen the Hughes Brothers' Pimp? Not on the same level as 80 Blocks but still a great watch.

PS: That film Blackout you listed. I hope you didn't watch it thinking it was the Ferrara one.
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Old 08.19.2012, 06:50 PM   #16418
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Old 08.20.2012, 09:50 AM   #16419
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The soundtrack to this has been reissued by De Stijl, apparently. It's by a band called Citizens for Interplanetary Activity and it's excellent. Jad Yalkut's film is really worth your time too. Big fan of Yayoi Kusama here, so it was great to watch it for the first time at the recent exhibition of her work at Tate Modern.
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Old 08.20.2012, 10:00 AM   #16420
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PS: That film Blackout you listed. I hope you didn't watch it thinking it was the Ferrara one.

No, just pure coincidence.
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