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Old 08.14.2012, 08:10 PM   #16121
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the best rape and revenge movie i have seen was "thriller: a cruel movie"


it's swedish and the style of it all seemed pretty artsy and realist and i thought it was supposed to be some serious message movie.


and then when i looked at who made it... it was all porno people! the sex scenes in this movie scared the shit out of me, but if they were intended to be sexy that just makes the movie more scary

the lead actress was great too, it's a shame she didn't make any non pornos

sounds like the girl with the dragon tattoo but maybe i'm reading you wrong?
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Old 08.14.2012, 08:11 PM   #16122
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sounds like the girl with the dragon tattoo but maybe i'm reading you wrong?


no. i'm talking about "thriller: a cruel movie" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072285/
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Old 08.14.2012, 08:46 PM   #16123
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no. i'm talking about "thriller: a cruel movie" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072285/

i mean is it a ripoff, or is that a swedish national obsession (rape/revenge)? same theme, no?
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Old 08.14.2012, 08:55 PM   #16124
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i mean is it a ripoff, or is that a swedish national obsession (rape/revenge)? same theme, no?



i don't know anything about girl with dragon tattoo or sweden so i can't really say anything
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Old 08.14.2012, 09:08 PM   #16125
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i don't know anything about girl with dragon tattoo or sweden so i can't really say anything


oh! you should watch it if you like that subject. pretty good, sorta, if a bit stereotyped-- i'd try to read the novel maybe. but i did like the movie, in all.
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Old 08.14.2012, 10:12 PM   #16126
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maybe i'll watch it sometime.
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Old 08.14.2012, 10:14 PM   #16127
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it was streamable on netflix last month
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Old 08.14.2012, 10:21 PM   #16128
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i don't have netflix but it was popular so i'm sure i could download it. i've been off movies the last week or so since i've gotten back into music.

also i'm pretty pissed at film in general since the show i was backgrounding on premiered and i'm completely absent in the episode, i'm a bit sour after going through so many hours living the rough life on set ala 1860s nebraska and ending up with no screen time
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Old 08.14.2012, 10:35 PM   #16129
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what were you on? hell on wheels?
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Old 08.14.2012, 10:41 PM   #16130
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yeah, except i'm not on it
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Old 08.14.2012, 10:44 PM   #16131
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yeah, except i'm not on it


oh mang! i love that fucking show!

sorry about the disappoints. did you at least have a good time while on set?
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Old 08.14.2012, 11:01 PM   #16132
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yeah mostly, i still have an episode left and i could possibly work again
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Old 08.15.2012, 03:47 PM   #16133
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Amazing? I say yes.


I rewatched Kikujiro, a feel good summer film.
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Old 08.15.2012, 04:06 PM   #16134
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the best rape and revenge movie i have seen was "thriller: a cruel movie"


it's swedish and the style of it all seemed pretty artsy and realist and i thought it was supposed to be some serious message movie.


and then when i looked at who made it... it was all porno people! the sex scenes in this movie scared the shit out of me, but if they were intended to be sexy that just makes the movie more scary

the lead actress was great too, it's a shame she didn't make any non pornos

I was a bit disappointed with Thriller. I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, I just think that without all of its 'transgressive' elements it really drag on. I should watch it again. Isn't it meant to have been one of the main inspirations behind Kill Bill?
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Old 08.18.2012, 01:02 AM   #16135
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Talking about ''rape and revenge'' movies, I like Abel Ferrara's ''Ms. 45'' and I've never watched any of his other movies. Any recommendations are super welcome.




Huge Fererra fan here. I'm probably in the minority, but one of my faves is "Dangerous Game" aka Snake Eyes from 1992 with Keitel and Madonna. It's a gruesome psychological study about a director and his two actors whose personal lives violently blur with the film they're working on. There are one or two scenes so tough to watch.... its a masterpiece that got shat upon when it was released.

I also really love "The Funeral", but both of these are not goood starting points for his work. I'd recommend "Bad Lt.", "King of New York" or "R-Xmas" as better places to start. And damn it, I'm still looking for a copy of his still unreleased "Mary" or "Go Go Tales" if anyone knows......
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Old 08.18.2012, 04:02 AM   #16136
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Thanks for the recommendations. I haven't watched ''Death Wish II'' and "Bad Lieutenant" for whatever reason. Since I've posted about ''I Spit on Your Grave'', check out without a critical mindset ''Naked Vengeance'', a movie which plagiarises it a bit but manages to improve the rope murder by the lake by combining it with a more creative use of the speedboat.
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Old 08.18.2012, 06:00 AM   #16137
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Bad Lieutenant is ace. I got good memories of watching that lying in bed with vodka disguised in a water bottle. Also with friends at college used to re-enact the part where Harvey Keitel is wanking in the street. Good times.
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Old 08.18.2012, 07:40 AM   #16138
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Ferrara : The Funeral, it has Chris Penn in his best role (awarded in Berlin or Venice, one of these two), and Del Toro's great, and there's Walken, Gallo...
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Old 08.18.2012, 08:00 AM   #16139
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people might laugh at me for saying this here, where this movie gets so much love, but i tried watching bad lieutenant and got fucking bored to tears.

so harvey keitel wanders about the city, snorts coke, tries to win increasing gambles at the world series, fucks hookers, steals from thieves-- and i just wanted it to be over. why? because in a way nothing happens. addicts on a bender are always the same and it's fucking boring. maybe i waited too long to watch this because it was nothing new to me at this point.

the best thing i got from it was learning about the beautiful cokehead/junkie who wrote the script-- she was a curious person, and i've looked at her photos trying to decipher her life: http://zoelund.com/ .
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Old 08.18.2012, 08:14 AM   #16140
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ugh, i love Bad Lieutenant. late 80's, early 90's New York at it's best. the so called "rethought" with Nicolas is not shabby either.

great story about a disenchanted cop. i should know because i work with one.
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