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Old 05.09.2012, 01:37 AM   #15921
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Well it is converted 3D, so inherently, I say no. I'll only pay the extra money if that's how the movie was conceived and made. Because yes, the scenes they didn't convert look like crap in those fucking glasses

thanks! that'll make it cheaper. i'll wait for 3D tits some other time ha ha.
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Old 05.09.2012, 02:06 AM   #15922
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Chelsea Girls

Watched it last week in NY at Jonas Mekas' Anthology Film Archive. One of my life's ambitions finally fulfilled. Life is sweet. Needless to say, the movie itself is one of my faves.
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Old 05.09.2012, 02:23 AM   #15923
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oh you lucky dog. that's something i can't get on netflix.

i hope you're having fun in nueva york (sounds like you are)
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Old 05.09.2012, 02:35 AM   #15924
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I'm a very jealous man. Chelsea Girls is excellent, albeit I'm not as big a fan of warhol as many of the people I know are.
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Old 05.09.2012, 02:36 AM   #15925
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Thanks. Just got back yesterday. Had a fantastic time. I also saw the new Avengers movie. Really good but, as has been mentioned already, the 3D ultimately gets in the way. Plus there's not enough Iron Man. The final half hour is nuts. (In a good way.)
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Old 05.09.2012, 02:48 AM   #15926
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oh please, Catwoman would bullwhip the fuck out of iron man. Or, better yet, knock him out with sleeping gas... reminiscent of the 60s TV series!
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Old 05.09.2012, 02:59 AM   #15927
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I was never a huge fan of the Iron Man comics but Robert Downey Jnr has to be the best thing to have ever happened to the Marvel movie franchise. The guy's just perfect in that role.
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Old 05.09.2012, 03:01 AM   #15928
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[quote=Genteel Death]Jaws 2

 

9/10[quote]

Good call. The first one is among my all-time faves but the sequel is sooooo underrated. The Breakfast Club on a boat.
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Old 05.09.2012, 03:07 AM   #15929
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I was just messing around. The first Iron Man is pretty solid. I never did see the sequel in its entirety, as halfway through I thought it was awful. I'll give The Avengers another try at some point. Maybe I'm just not a Marvel person... I'm not even a DC fan either, I just love Batman. And I've been going through the first season of the 90s animated series, which is possibly my favorite animated show of all time.

And I've also been meaning to watch Jaws. Some may find this weird but I've never seen any of them from beginning to end. I've had it downloaded for a long time now but...
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Old 05.09.2012, 04:51 AM   #15930
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I've finally caught up with the Batman films and I like some of them a lot but of the rest of the comic adaptations, I probably like the Iron Man ones the most, although I do think a massive part of their appeal is down to Robert Downey Jnr. I imagine he's making an absolute fortune out of agreeing to do Iron Man 3. I can't imagine anyone being accepted in that role after him.
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Old 05.09.2012, 12:55 PM   #15931
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I think this might be the best film Martin Scorsese has directed.

It's a strong argument although I'd say a stronger one might be that it's Robert DeNiro's best moment. I'll still stick with Mean Streets when it comes to Scorsese but for DeNiro, Raging Bull might well be his crowning achievement. Although he's obviously spectacularly good in Taxi Driver and The Deer Hunter, too.
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Old 05.09.2012, 01:17 PM   #15932
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Chelsea Girls

Watched it last week in NY at Jonas Mekas' Anthology Film Archive. One of my life's ambitions finally fulfilled. Life is sweet. Needless to say, the movie itself is one of my faves.

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Old 05.09.2012, 01:19 PM   #15933
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I nearly cried watching De Niro's performance. When I first saw it, I thought of Zampano from Fellini's LA STRADA... both characters being somewhat masculine, intolerable, abusive... yet you still sympathize with them at the end. Raging Bull, as a whole, got a more powerful reaction from me I suppose... even though it's Travis from Taxi Driver that I relate to the most. The cinematography for Raging Bull is just beautiful. Didn't Michael Chapman have something to do with Jaws? I think it was his first "big hit".

I downloaded Murder on the Orient Express, which sounds intriguing after I read about it in this book I recently picked up, written by Lumet himself. So I'll try to watch that next when I have the time.

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Old 05.09.2012, 01:20 PM   #15934
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I've finally caught up with the Batman films and I like some of them a lot

which ones did you see? or better question, which ones did you enjoy the most?
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Old 05.09.2012, 05:15 PM   #15935
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That's a great point re DeNiro's La Motta and Zampano. I'd never thought of it before. I'm sure Scorsese is a big Fellini fan so even if it isn't directly inspired, I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

I've seen all the batman movies now, I think. I watched them all in quite quick succession so they've sort of blurred into one but my faves were the first two (with Michael Keaton) and the last two (with Christian Bale). I know everyone raves about Bale's Batman and he is great but I just loved Michael Keaton in the first two. But then I'm increasingly becoming a big Michael Keaton fan in general.

I wasn't that into Val Kilmer's one, or George Clooney's but I did quite like Jim Carey's Riddler in Batman Forever and Uma Thurman's Poison Ivy in Batman and Robin. Although, overall, I'd say that was the movie I liked the least.

Fave Batman: Keaton
Fave Villain: Danny DeVito's Penguin (gives the film a quite dark, almost Dickensian, Christmas feel where the others tend to be played primarily just for laughs)
Worst Batman: Val Kilmer (Clooney's film is worse but on paper he might not have been a bad choice. Val Kilmer just doesn't work at all for me, either as an idea or in the film itself)
Worst Villain: Arnie's Mr Freeze.

The one thing I'll say about all the movies, though, is that I never liked any of their Alfreds. They all seem to up the 'father figure' thing a bit too much. I much preferred the more straightforwardly arch Alfred played by Alan Napier in the 60s TV show.

 


Oh, and yes, I believe Michael Chapman did cinematography for Jaws, although I suppose the real camera heroes in that film were Ron and Valerie Taylor who did all the underwater stuff.
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Old 05.09.2012, 05:40 PM   #15936
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I downloaded Murder on the Orient Express, which sounds intriguing after I read about it in this book I recently picked up, written by Lumet himself. So I'll try to watch that next when I have the time.

In fear of sounding like an even bigger geek than usual, an interesting fact about Murder on the Orient Express is that the script wasn't in reality written by Lumet at all but by an uncredited Anthony Schaeffer, who's more famous for writing the original The Wicker Man and Sleuth but who also did most of the big 70s Agatha Christie adaptations, like Death on the Nile, usually without credit. He's also sometimes credited with writing Equus but that was his twin brother, Peter, making the Schaeffers a pretty talented family, I'm sure you'd agree. Nothing against Lumet but in my opinion, as outright screenwriters, the Schaeffers really were in a league of their own. It's interesting watching something like The Wicker Man or Sleuth now, knowing what else Schaeffer did; you get a far greater sense of his obsession with playing games with audience's heads. It's therefore no surprise that on returning to England to make Frenzy, Hitchcock's screenwriter of choice was Anthony Schaeffer.
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I'm going to watch Rashomon tonight, anyone seen it?
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In fear of sounding like an even bigger geek than usual, an interesting fact about Murder on the Orient Express is that the script wasn't in reality written by Lumet at all but by an uncredited Anthony Schaeffer, who's more famous for writing the original The Wicker Man and Sleuth but who also did most of the big 70s Agatha Christie adaptations, like Death on the Nile, usually without credit. He's also sometimes credited with writing Equus but that was his twin brother, Peter, making the Schaeffers a pretty talented family, I'm sure you'd agree. Nothing against Lumet but in my opinion, as outright screenwriters, the Schaeffers really were in a league of their own. It's interesting watching something like The Wicker Man or Sleuth now, knowing what else Schaeffer did; you get a far greater sense of his obsession with playing games with audience's heads. It's therefore no surprise that on returning to England to make Frenzy, Hitchcock's screenwriter of choice was Anthony Schaeffer.

nothing to fear about sounding like a geek. That's an insightful post... I didn't really know much about his writers. The cool thing about Lumet is that he'd probably say the same thing about the people he has worked with. He's directed some pretty big movies with well known actors (Pacino, Brando, Connery, Newman etc.) and yet in that book I mentioned, he constantly praised his peers and apparently listened carefully to what the writers of his films were going for. It's definitely a shame the guy passed away. Not only talented and prolific but seemingly down to earth as well. I never did see his final feature, the one with Hoffman... but a friend told me not to watch it before going to bed because "it's nuts" or something. I'm not sure what she meant by that but whatever.
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I don't like his music but I have more respect for him as a person after seeing this movie, really great!
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nothing to fear about sounding like a geek. That's an insightful post... I didn't really know much about his writers. The cool thing about Lumet is that he'd probably say the same thing about the people he has worked with. He's directed some pretty big movies with well known actors (Pacino, Brando, Connery, Newman etc.) and yet in that book I mentioned, he constantly praised his peers and apparently listened carefully to what the writers of his films were going for. It's definitely a shame the guy passed away. Not only talented and prolific but seemingly down to earth as well. I never did see his final feature, the one with Hoffman... but a friend told me not to watch it before going to bed because "it's nuts" or something. I'm not sure what she meant by that but whatever.

Haha, I've not seen the movie Hoffman did with Lumet but I always thought it was a comedy. Now I'm intrigued. Lumet is definitely a big favourite of mine, especially Dog Day Afternoon. I've not read much about him but I really should. Anyway, I don't think there was any skullduggery going on with Shaffer's uncredited script. Probably just studio politics. Either way, hoped you liked Murder on the Orient Express. It's a bit of fluff, really, but I have a soft spot for those multi-star Agatha Christie adaptations. I went through a phase a couple of years ago of watching them one after the other. If you liked Orient Express, definitely give Death on the Nile a go, or Evil Under the Sun. Again, nothing amazing, just really enjoyable and well done and, for me, the best of the bunch. And definitely try and see anything scripted by Anthony Shaffer, whatever it is.
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