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Old 04.08.2010, 11:57 AM   #10061
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Scorsese was probably the best director of his generation but I think he went off the boil a long time ago. I'd say that right now Michael Mann is probably my favourite filmmaker currently working in the mainstream - and the Coen Brothers are still always at least interesting. I don't think Scorsese has done much of any real worth probably since Casino. (Although I seem to be alone in really liking The Departed, even though I'll admit that it's not that great a movie.)

Michael Mann has sucked since "The Insider". "Public Enemies" was the most disappointing film I've ever seen. I was stoked when it came out, but besides a cool performance by Depp and awesome Otis Taylor tracks, it had NOTHING going for it.
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Old 04.08.2010, 11:58 AM   #10062
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I just watched "Fantastic Mr. Fox", it looked cool enough I suppose. But Wes Anderson has definitely dropped the ball.
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Old 04.08.2010, 11:58 AM   #10063
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And I'm not sure if it's rated enough to be overrated.

Eh? It's on Criterion, in like a 4 disc set. It's got 74,000 ratings on imdb. It's a pretty popular movie.
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Old 04.08.2010, 11:59 AM   #10064
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public enemies was so BORING

so was Departed. I zoned out about halfway through.
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:00 PM   #10065
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re: The Departed, it's just another crappy Americanized remake of a great Hong Kong film. Dont' see the big deal at all. Anyway..

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that one with Billy Bob.

haha, man who wasn't there rules!

I'd go...
1. Blood Simple
2. Barton Fink
3. Fargo
4. No Country
5. Man Who Wasn't THere
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:00 PM   #10066
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as far as Gilliam, I WANT my films to be overly loaded, visual spectacles, with countless things on the margins for me to catch when I re-watch them.
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:06 PM   #10067
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I just can't get into his style at all. To me, it's the same criticisms leveled at Michael Bay -- big, bloated, messy, hard-to-watch (too many cuts!), silly in a BAD way -- but, omigod, Gilliam is so "surreal" so it's "okay". Haha. Even if I liked his movies, he's still an idiot, as a human being, have you guys ever read any interviews with him? Jesus.

I don't hate him outright, though, his animated sequences for Monty Python were good.
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:06 PM   #10068
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Coens once said they wanted to work in every genre. have they?

I'd go

1. No Country For Old Men
2. Fargo
3. Big Lebowski
4. Barton Fink
5. Raising Arizona
6. Miller's Crossing


I did not and do not enjoy Hudsucker Proxy. I was bored by the pointless Burn After Reading. I turnd off Oh Brother Wher art Thou
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:09 PM   #10069
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did the Coens make a horror film yet?
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:10 PM   #10070
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Barton Fink is my number one. It reminds me of that fucked Polanski film the Tenant. Which looking at the wiki page makes sense because it was a major influence on it.
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:10 PM   #10071
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did the Coens make a horror film yet?

Barton Fink has horror elements for sure.
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:29 PM   #10072
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More psychological horror.
No Country was like that as well I think.

BUt they have yet to make a true horror film. I wonder what a Coen Bros. horror film would be like? LOTS of dialogue./
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Old 04.08.2010, 12:48 PM   #10073
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I havent seen Barton.
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Old 04.08.2010, 01:36 PM   #10074
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Old 04.08.2010, 01:40 PM   #10075
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I havent seen Barton.

You're missing out. My highest reccomendation!
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Old 04.08.2010, 02:40 PM   #10076
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Coens once said they wanted to work in every genre. have they?

I'd go

1. No Country For Old Men
2. Fargo
3. Big Lebowski
4. Barton Fink
5. Raising Arizona
6. Miller's Crossing


I did not and do not enjoy Hudsucker Proxy. I was bored by the pointless Burn After Reading. I turnd off Oh Brother Wher art Thou

I'd go

Miller's Crossing
Fargo
The Man who Wasn't There
A Serious Man

the reason I don't like No Country is that it's really a correct interpretation of the Cormac book, so the Coens do not do their usual snappy dialog. If they made their OWN border movie, which would be GREAT, I'm sure, there would be some really nice dialog, especially among the gang members. Being that Cormac is maybe a little more racist than is generally seen (IMO) the Mexicans are really shorted in favor of the white folks in the movie, but that is how the book was, so it is a very good Cormac movie, but I don't think it should be top of the Coens.....
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Old 04.08.2010, 03:45 PM   #10078
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Old 04.08.2010, 03:59 PM   #10079
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I'd go

Miller's Crossing
Fargo
The Man who Wasn't There
A Serious Man

the reason I don't like No Country is that it's really a correct interpretation of the Cormac book, so the Coens do not do their usual snappy dialog. If they made their OWN border movie, which would be GREAT, I'm sure, there would be some really nice dialog, especially among the gang members. Being that Cormac is maybe a little more racist than is generally seen (IMO) the Mexicans are really shorted in favor of the white folks in the movie, but that is how the book was, so it is a very good Cormac movie, but I don't think it should be top of the Coens.....

Cormac McCarthy is my favorite novelist, well second behind Faulkner anyways. I've heard my professors talk about his alleged racism, but I don't see it. In "Blood Meridian" for instance, violence is the end all. It breaks down the old Hollywood themes of heroic cowbows v. indian savages and newer archetypes of sociopath cowboys stripping natives of their land. In BM, violence is the only solution, and no group of people are any more brutal than any other. Except the Judge, who stands alone.

I thought the Coens' film was a perfect interpretation of McCarthy. NCFOM was McCarthy's stab at pulp, it was a crime novel but still riddled with tons of philosophy and beautiful prose. The Coens kept close to the novel but made it distinctly theirs.

I'm really excited to see what Todd FIelds does with the Blood Meridian adaptation. It really is the most ambitious adaptation since Moby Dick. Has anyone heard who is being looked at to play the Judge? There can't be many 7 footers out there who can act. I think John Lithgow could work.
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Old 04.08.2010, 04:24 PM   #10080
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Barton Fink has horror elements for sure.

I love Barton Fink but last time I watched it I couldn't get over how much they'd taken from eraserhead, even down to John Turturro's haircut.

For the record, my five fave Coen Bros films:

Fargo
Blood Simple
The Big Lebowski
Barton Fink
Miller's Crossing
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