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Old 07.28.2009, 01:22 PM   #7461
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Old 07.28.2009, 01:23 PM   #7462
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going to watch this when i get home again-
 

cant wait. its been a few years.
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Old 07.28.2009, 01:23 PM   #7463
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I don't think it's brilliant, but it has its moments... Giuseppe Andrews and the pancakes kid make the movie watchable.


I just think it's great. One of those I can watch over and over. Ah. You know me and my taste. Shrug. haha.
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Old 07.28.2009, 01:28 PM   #7464
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cant wait. its been a few years.

Naked Lunch is interesting to me, because I had to watch it about 10 times before I really liked it. I saw it a few times about, oh, 7 years ago at this point... and was just like "ehhh", aside from a few scenes and the awesome ending.... but somehow, it stuck with me. I just found it a bit dull and nowhere near the, um, experience of reading the book. But, again, it stuck with me and I kept watching it and watching it and watching it, with friends or by myself, over the years. Finally, I bought the Criterion DVD last year back and sat down and watched it for the first time in about 2 years. And, finally, now, I can say that I pretty much love it. I dunno why I had such a tough time loving it to begin with... I just felt that something was a bit off about the whole thing. But it's still a compelling film that will definitely make a lasting impression on anyone who dares to watch it.
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Old 07.28.2009, 01:39 PM   #7465
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Naked Lunch is interesting to me, because I had to watch it about 10 times before I really liked it. I saw it a few times about, oh, 7 years ago at this point... and was just like "ehhh", aside from a few scenes and the awesome ending.... but somehow, it stuck with me. I just found it a bit dull and nowhere near the, um, experience of reading the book. But, again, it stuck with me and I kept watching it and watching it and watching it, with friends or by myself, over the years. Finally, I bought the Criterion DVD last year back and sat down and watched it for the first time in about 2 years. And, finally, now, I can say that I pretty much love it. I dunno why I had such a tough time loving it to begin with... I just felt that something was a bit off about the whole thing. But it's still a compelling film that will definitely make a lasting impression on anyone who dares to watch it.

This and the newest one are maybe the only Cronenberg's I haven't seen. I want to see Naked Lunch. But the critereon is so expensive.
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Old 07.28.2009, 02:09 PM   #7466
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Old 07.28.2009, 04:37 PM   #7467
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I don't think it's brilliant


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Old 07.28.2009, 07:27 PM   #7468
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Eli Roth just kinda sucks.

Can't hate him too bad, though, since he clearly has a good taste in films. Having Miike and Giuseppe in your movies is also quite amazing.
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Old 07.28.2009, 07:38 PM   #7469
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well, as usual this is a disagreement we've had enough times to not go thru it again, brother. But I think Roth is great. I hope he finished TRAILER TRASH, cuz his THANKSGIVING trailer was amazing. (with obvious MAJORETTES reference).
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Old 07.28.2009, 07:46 PM   #7470
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TRAILER TRASH could never be as good as... TRAILER TOWN!:
 


In all seriousness, though, I think Eli Roth will one day probably make some good films. He just hasn't made any I've personally enjoyed yet. "Thanksgiving", in my opinion, is definitely his best work though. Actually, that was my favorite thing in all of Grindhouse's 3 hours.
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Old 07.28.2009, 07:59 PM   #7471
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Cabin Fever is my favorite of his three...
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:08 PM   #7472
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Hah, well, no disagreeing there.
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:11 PM   #7473
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I probably liked Hostel 2 more than the first. Because it seemed more interesting to me. The first was tense, but straight torture porn is tiresome as well.

I say all this, but loved all 3 anyway.
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:17 PM   #7474
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Hostel 1 and 2 were pretty much exactly the same to me, except Hostel 2 had hotter chicks in it. So, 2 gets my nod as well.
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:19 PM   #7475
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2 was tamer... nudity and violence wise. But had a better story. It was like Kill Bill vs. Kill Bill 2 in my opinion. The first was the action. The second was the story.
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:21 PM   #7476
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No comment, I don't want to get into an argument about the merits/nonmerits of Kill Bill here
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:29 PM   #7477
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OMG. Comment?

Alright, listen. Kill Bill Vol. 1 is straight up fun.
But Kill Bill Vol. 2 is a great film. I've watched the 2nd one soooooo many times.
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:40 PM   #7478
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You know how I feel about Tarantino.

He's a very smart guy, obviously. Reservoir Dogs proves two things to me: He has an excellent taste in actors (Keitel, Buscemi, Roth are all great!) and he has seen lots of good movies (A Better Tomorrow, City on Fire, The Killer, etc.). I know I give him a lot of shit but really, even though he clearly ripped off a lot of parts of other movies, he was able to infuse it with a lot of creative directing and some awesome dialogue. Also, he made it for very cheap. A very simple and great concept and one of my favorite films ever, no matter what.

So, Tarantino has my respect. I think everything he's done, aside from Death Proof, has some good stuff in it.

But honestly I think the dialogue, his most "respected" element, is absolutely atrocious in the Kill Bill films. The action is fucking great, especially in volume 1, but the "storyline" is hard to take seriously and the characters are just... well... I mean, I don't like a single character in either one of those films. It's hard to enjoy a movie when the characters suck, the story sucks, and the dialogue sucks. And since volume 2 is almost solely characterization, story, and dialogue... well...

Still, again, Tarantino has good tastes. He used some Fabio Frizzi music from "The Beyond" in vol. 2, which made me smile. He used Chiaki Kariyama (BONER!) after seeing her in the excellent "Battle Royale". This guy knows great films (didn't he use some music from "Blow Out" in Death Proof? I think I remember that.. if so, then.. well, Death Proof still sucks.. but cool!). I will always respect him for bringing Sonatine and Chungking Express over here.

Still, I think the best elements of Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 could have been merged together to create an amazing film. As it is, at over 4 hours (maybe 5 hours?) between both of them, it's just a bit much. Just not my thing. Here's my take on it: Tarantino is a clever guy, but he's not THAT clever. The "Superman" speech at the end of Volume 2 might be the worst thing I've ever heard in a film by a big-name director.

You gotta respect the guy for his love of cinema. He's even turned me onto some great movies that I would've never heard of if he wasn't for him (All About Lily Chou-Chou, which is one of my all time favorite films... so thanks, Tarantino! Also, Thriller: A Cruel Picture I'd never heard of before he mentioned it). Also, I he's apparently producing Tetsuo III. I mean, the guy has all kinds of cool shit going on, so I don't hate him. But his films are a bit... all over the place for me.

......also, has anyone ever seen the movie SIX STRING SAMURAI? I love that movie so much.
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:42 PM   #7479
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I dont know. Something about 2 I loved. But I'm a fan of both.

And agreed RE: The Beyond music.
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Old 07.28.2009, 08:43 PM   #7480
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me and the wife watched escape from alcatraz again the other night. its a great movie and most underated.
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