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Old 10.31.2017, 03:55 PM   #21821
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Last film I watched: The White Sheik. Felliniís first solo feature. Never thought Iíd see a boring Fellini film but now I have. But what can I say it still had hints of that great Fellini humor and a fun cameo from Masina as a prostitute that would end up being Cabiria in the great Nights of Cabiria.

Fellini could certainly get boring later on. City of Women? But yeah, it's rare in that period. Have you seen I Vitelloni? I love that one but it rarely gets mentioned.
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Old 10.31.2017, 04:19 PM   #21822
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i liked lo sceicco bianco

i think broadway danny rose copied it?

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Old 10.31.2017, 06:16 PM   #21823
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Fellini could certainly get boring later on. City of Women? But yeah, it's rare in that period. Have you seen I Vitelloni? I love that one but it rarely gets mentioned.

Ha! I still havenít seen any post-Amarcord but one day Iíll get around to it.

I LOVE I Vitteloni. Very underrated and I can relate to it 100%. I tear up everytime. It is actually a weird tradition that I tend to watch it every New Yearís Eve as sort of a cleanse of the old and inspiration to be better I guess.
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Old 10.31.2017, 06:18 PM   #21824
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i liked lo sceicco bianco

i think broadway danny rose copied it?

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Yikes! Apparently To Rome With Love has a similar story? Idk just read it on wikipedia. Iím not much of a Woody fan at all.
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Old 10.31.2017, 06:33 PM   #21825
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Sweet and Lowdown is La Strada.

Plus 8 1/5 and Stardust Memories, you know.
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Old 10.31.2017, 06:44 PM   #21826
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i’ve seen 2 of his post 70s

the one about the orchestra (prova d’orchesta, i think it’s called) and the one about the ship... the ship sails on?

i liked them both

prova d’orchesta (forgive my spelling if it sucks) is hilarious.

and the ship sails on (?) was good too. not amazing great or anything but i’d definitely rewatch it. thought i can’t remember much of it ha ha ha. lots of people on a boat. like titanic but better xD
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Old 10.31.2017, 06:46 PM   #21827
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I don’t know most of these movies you guys. Makin’ me feel dumb AF.

Fugitive, now that’s cinema!
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Old 10.31.2017, 06:54 PM   #21828
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^ Recently rewatched “City of Lost Children,” and goddammit, it’s still one of my favorite movies. Not top of the heap, but still great. I think “Delicatessen” might be better as far as Jeunet films go (or even “Amelie”) but it’s been forever since I last saw that. I just know it left a pretty big impression.

Not many folks realize that Jean-Pierre Jeunet actually directed “Alien Resurrection” of all fucking things. Probably why that one feels like it has a genuine craft to it in terms of direction and cinematography, even if the story is meh. It’s definiely the best of the post-“Aliens” sequels — excluding “Prometheus” of course.
But is that weird or what? That Jeunet would attempt to crossover into American cinema with fucking a flippin’ ALIEN sequel.

Had he directed a script by, say, Wes Anderson, then I think that shit would Haagen STUCK. Anderson’s Jeunet influence is obvious as fuck, and together they could have probably done some amazing things.


(I watch foreign stuff too sometimes)
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Old 10.31.2017, 07:12 PM   #21829
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oh hell yes city of lost children was great

i don’t remember delicatessen so much but check out MICMACS. which is hilarious and rewatchable.
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Old 10.31.2017, 10:43 PM   #21830
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I don’t know most of these movies you guys. Makin’ me feel dumb AF.

Fugitive, now that’s cinema!

Ha! No hating on the Fugitive here. It’s got Tommy Lee Jones!

https://youtu.be/p7FyZgvjW0Y

Speaking of “The Fugitive” - demonrail I know your a John Ford fan, have you seen this one? I’ve never met anyone who I could talk to about it.
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Old 11.11.2017, 05:51 AM   #21832
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Speaking of “The Fugitive” - demonrail I know your a John Ford fan, have you seen this one? I’ve never met anyone who I could talk to about it.

I've only seen it once, a pretty worn out VHS copy. I remember it feeling quite slow, quite 'European'. More like My Darling Clementine than, say, Stagecoach. I don't remember much besides that, though.

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Beautiful Darling

Great, sad but ultimately inspiring documentary on Warhol's greatest superstar Candy Darling. An amazing human being.
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funny thing, while googling for a suitable picture i found this rated very low on the interwebs, but last night i went into it with high expectations (i think from this thread?) and actually liked it.

 


a bit preposterous, sure, but that’s a given with most horror movies, no? so, this one worked well for me. i might even rewatch it ha ha ha. srsly.
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Old 11.11.2017, 11:44 AM   #21834
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Yeah, I enjoyed that too. Not a classic by any means but I liked its low key style.
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I've only seen it once, a pretty worn out VHS copy. I remember it feeling quite slow, quite 'European'. More like My Darling Clementine than, say, Stagecoach. I don't remember much besides that, though

Youíre pretty spot on. He made it right after Clementine (which is his masterpiece if you ask me). He was great with Wayne, of cours, but to me Fonda always was the best Ford actor. The Fugitive is interesting to me because itís one of the few films he didnít try to hide being ďartsyĒ and I believe he had more control over it than other films. Itís not perfect by any means but thereís something about it that I find really special.

 


 




Besides that recently watched a few great ones.

Dog Day Afternoon. Amazing film. Not taking away anything from Pacino and Sarandon (because of course theyíre phenomenal and heartbreaking and funny) but Cazale always steals the show for me. Sal is a sad mystery who wasnít made for this world. Even his funny lines go down bittersweet for me.

Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. Itís a shame thereís not a perfect cut of this film. Peckinpah had something special for a while. Never shied away from the violence of the world. Backing his characters into corners and watching how they cope with their morals and ideals. Excellent stuff.

They Live By Night. I couldnít help watching this as the prototype for something like Badlands which kind of hindered it on its own. I LOVE Nicholas Ray though and this is up there with his best. I love how he makes genre films but bends them so off kilter. This is a crime film but tender. A love story but dirty. Unique characters too. Like Sal in Dog Day Afternoon, people who just canít fit into the world.
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Old 11.12.2017, 06:04 AM   #21836
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You’re pretty spot on. He made it right after Clementine (which is his masterpiece if you ask me). He was great with Wayne, of cours, but to me Fonda always was the best Ford actor. The Fugitive is interesting to me because it’s one of the few films he didn’t try to hide being “artsy” and I believe he had more control over it than other films. It’s not perfect by any means but there’s something about it that I find really special.

 


 



Full agreement from me about Clementine being his masterpiece and Fonda his greatest actor. Fonda had that complexity: that mix of old-world chivalry with a more contemporary hardness.As for Clementine, just a thing of beauty from beginning to end

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Dog Day Afternoon. Amazing film. Not taking away anything from Pacino and Sarandon (because of course they’re phenomenal and heartbreaking and funny) but Cazale always steals the show for me. Sal is a sad mystery who wasn’t made for this world. Even his funny lines go down bittersweet for me.

More agreement. I think Cazale is now recognised as the great lost actor of that generation. All the big names knew about him and recognised his talent.

The obvious thing is to imagine some glittering career waiting for him but I suspect his sheer eccentricity would've always kept him at the cult level. But he could act alongside guys like DeNiro, Pacino and you'd still find yourself watching him rather than them. A true one-off.

I've read that Meryl Streep, his girlfriend till he died, took some pretty major career defining roles, just to pay his medical bills.
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Full agreement from me about Clementine being his masterpiece and Fonda his greatest actor. Fonda had that complexity: that mix of old-world chivalry with a more contemporary hardness.As for Clementine, just a thing of beauty from beginning to end



More agreement. I think Cazale is now recognised as the great lost actor of that generation. All the big names knew about him and recognised his talent.

The obvious thing is to imagine some glittering career waiting for him but I suspect his sheer eccentricity would've always kept him at the cult level. But he could act alongside guys like DeNiro, Pacino and you'd still find yourself watching him rather than them. A true one-off.

I've read that Meryl Streep, his girlfriend till he died, took some pretty major career defining roles, just to pay his medical bills.

Yeah I ageee - I couldnít see Cazale being a star with the iconic roles. He was always the great supporting actor but added so much weight. I still canít help but fantasize a situation where he had he lead. Like Stanton and Paris, Texas. Wouldíve been a site to see.

And about Streep - thereís also that story about Dustin Hoffman whispering Cazaleís name after he died to her to try and milk a good performance. Kramer vs Kramer I think. First off she didnít need it and second fuck him. He couldnít touch Cazale.
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It's hard to see where Cazale would've fitted in the action obsessed 80s but I imagine he would've becoming a darling of the 90s indie sector.

I didn't know that story about Hoffman. He's always struck me as a bit of a cunt though.
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he could have been molly ringwald’s loser dad too xD

but no, look, danny devito became a star already in the 80s. i mean the whole new hollywood business was built on people who didn’t look that glamorous. joe pesci owning goodfellas.

but yeah i could imagine him in the 90s working with jim jarmusch or van zant or someone like that.



anyway i watched a movie that i’d rather not name in view of the dom’s recent events but it invoved a cat named “church” which probably everyone already knew but not me. first time i saw it! involuntarily campy perhaps, but i liked it, and the ramones soundtrack made me laugh.

started also watching the stoning of soraya m. which is a proper tragedy and you know it from the title— watched only the first hour. why this happened is this: it was obvious from the start what would happen. so then i watched the plot inexorably unfold. soraya is abused, exploited, frame, then she gets hit the mob the first time. i stopped right there. then i read that the actual stoning would take 20 minutes of film time, and with another hour to go, i decided to not continue. i’m already a misanthropist, i don’t need any more excuses to hate humanity. people suck.
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he could have been molly ringwaldís loser dad too xD

but no, look, danny devito became a star already in the 80s. i mean the whole new hollywood business was built on people who didnít look that glamorous. joe pesci owning goodfellas.

He would've found work, as all of them did, but the kind of role he excelled in (weak but strangely sympathetic) pretty much disappeared during the 80s, or else got turned into one-note lovable rogue-style comedy characters (Pesci's and Devito's forte).
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