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Old 04.24.2013, 09:16 PM   #61
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to Murmer:

i don't know what you mean by "UGH", but do you really want to be stuck in between some other couples relationship?

it's even worse than yr girl cheating on you. esp if it takes them 2 years to even mention her so-called boyfriend or "gasp" husband!!!

btw, i've never hit a woman nor was i suggesting anyone should. it just seems to work on my girlfriends who have boyfriends that don't want them to see me anymore. sad but true.

it's stressfull to be in the middle or outside watching this go on when yr dealing with wishy washy women. stay clear, smart and non-naive about who you date.

this question always pops into my mind when i'm around her....." if he was so great and all, then why were you cheating on him with me?". it's a mindfuck and will drive you insane.
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Old 04.24.2013, 09:38 PM   #62
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things would be a little easier if people were honest, but we know most people lie.

read something in an article here about an open marriage. again, this has to be based on trust. if not...then someone's going to get fucked. it's a bad idea all the way and only causes great turmoil.
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thurston must be a massive cunt if he's leaving the single coolest, most beautiful woman in human history.
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Old 04.25.2013, 12:45 AM   #64
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wrong!!! i've never cheated nor have i gone out with a girl that cheated on me. so no, most people don't cheat even though it's becoming very acceptable in this *cough* day and age*cough*.

i did date women that were cheating on boyfriends with me, but soon they went back to theeir orginal boyfucks then back agian to me. i don't consider that cheating, just confusion among shallow confused women. we know most women are craxy evil and stupid, but we just don't want to admit it because we want to fuck em.

a bloody busted nose always sets them straight.
Maybe not sexually, but everyone has engaged in some form of dishonesty when it comes to someone else. It's no different. We are creatures of procreation and despite anything society tells us, we are here to fuck. It's what we do. The whole concept of one marriage/1 partner is a bit silly. The only thing wrong with cheating...the only thing...is the lies that sometimes come along with it. People need to get over all this "we're spiritually connected beings meant to be together" garbage. Things don't work like that. Not in real life, anyway.

The only thing annoying about this whole ordeal to me is how shocking it's been to others. People act like Kim and Thurston are their parents for crying out loud. A 27 year run is a mighty long time. I'm willing to bet so few here have been in a relationship that long (speaking of the few old enough to have been). It's 2012. Most everyone gets divorced, most everyone get's cheated on...including Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore. Big whoop.

And as far as dating women who end up dating others and coming back to fuck their exes...lol. Holy shit I DO NOT miss small town Georgia. Even though I must admit sex with exes can sometimes be quite amazing.
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Old 04.25.2013, 01:21 AM   #65
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Maybe not sexually, but everyone has engaged in some form of dishonesty when it comes to someone else. It's no different. We are creatures of procreation and despite anything society tells us, we are here to fuck. It's what we do. The whole concept of one marriage/1 partner is a bit silly. The only thing wrong with cheating...the only thing...is the lies that sometimes come along with it. People need to get over all this "we're spiritually connected beings meant to be together" garbage. Things don't work like that. Not in real life, anyway.

The only thing annoying about this whole ordeal to me is how shocking it's been to others. People act like Kim and Thurston are their parents for crying out loud. A 27 year run is a mighty long time. I'm willing to bet so few here have been in a relationship that long (speaking of the few old enough to have been). It's 2012. Most everyone gets divorced, most everyone get's cheated on...including Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore. Big whoop.

And as far as dating women who end up dating others and coming back to fuck their exes...lol. Holy shit I DO NOT miss small town Georgia. Even though I must admit sex with exes can sometimes be quite amazing.

i dont' agree with you at all. the concept of marriage is a test to humanity(and yr soul) and the individual in all. fuck religion. not everyone cheats and yr just saying that most people agree with polygamy and don't accept anything that has to do with monogamy which would make us just a butch of fucking animals with no feelings of love or caring feelings for the one we want for the rest of our lives. which is just fucking crazy and nuts. animalistic sex can equal love more so than rape you know. you want to fuck a lot of bitches for what?....your male ego? when you and i know that's a waste of fucking time.

it's just total useless bullshit you speak. i believe one person should spend the rest of their life with one person because it works out that way without anyone else getting hurt. it's all the same and if you don't think so then yr just fucking crazy and nuts and think in an unrealistic way.

i'm not here fuck everyone. what a butch of primitive shit.

i've never thought about fucking another woman when i'm with a certain woman. what's the goddamn point? pussy is fucking pussy and it's all the fucking same so man up choose.

more than one woman is a nuff. who you foolin?
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Old 04.25.2013, 01:32 AM   #66
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i dont' agree with you at all. the concept of marriage is a test to humanity and the individual in all. fuck religion. not everyone cheats and yr just saying that most people agree with polygamy and don't accept anything that has to do with monogamy which would make us just a butch of fucking animals with no feelings of love or caring feelings for the one we care about. which is just fucking crazy and nuts. animalistic sex can equal love more so than rape you know. you want to fuck a lot of bitches for what?....your male ego? when you and i know that's a waste of time.

it's just total useless bullshit you speak. i believe one person should spend the rest of their life with one person because it works out that way without anyone else getting hurt. it's all the same and if you don't think so then yr just fucking crazy and nuts and think in an unrealistic way.

In the larger scheme of things, sex and love have little to do with each other. Most sex isn't based around legit love, and I think most would agree with that. Also, it's not uncommon to truly love someone you no longer have interest in having sex with. This is often where cheating comes into play. While open relationships are often frowned upon by those who are opposed to them (which, are most people), it seems most who are involved in open relationships are very open with each other on a level most relationships aren't. Most aren't even comfortable talking about having sex with others or previous sexual exploits...which is totally sad and lame.

Life's not about tests, man. Whose doing the testing? Whose doing the grading? Ourselves? We ARE a bunch of animals.

And the fact that I've been with several woman, as have most men my age, has nothing to do with ego. Sex is nice...experiencing different people is on par with experiencing a different place. New scents, new scenery, new conversations, new vibes...it's a good thing. Most women aren't the same in bed. I'd assume most men aren't, either. Why experience just one?
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Old 04.25.2013, 01:44 AM   #67
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i'm not a fucking animal. define animal? my sex drive? then yes.

i've been in relationships longer than 3 years and never once did it cross my mind to fuck another.

is this a male or female thang? most people who cheat are fucked in the head and are totally confused. again, i dont agree with you.

oh, and of course most women in bed aren't the same but which one you want? the one that sucks head good or the one that soaks yr balls with cum? it's still all the same if you know how to teach.

total shit.
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Old 04.25.2013, 01:52 AM   #68
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well maybe i dont want to cheat because i care about people and their feelings.

sex and love has a lot to do with it. and again, not everyone cheats.
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I just can't see myself sleeping with someone who I don't find desirable enough to continue seeing, or without emotional investment. It seems like a waste, and it's insipidly vacuous and empty to me if that's all there is for the rest of my life.

i hope you feel like this for the rest of your life because it's so true and wise. cudos.

i've been offered just to marry because of sex and that's^^^^the reason why i didn't. again cudos.
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Perhaps, but that's not necessarily the same thing as cheating on someone in a serious relationship, especially deceiving someone you've been with for an extensive amount of time. I find it odious that your posts on this thread are condoning the act itself, and only because you feel that most people do it. If that's true, then it sure says something about most individuals. I don't have malice against someone who has cheated before, but it kind of irks me if that same person were to continue doing it because, well, who gives a fuck? we'll all do it because all we want to do is fuck anyways!

You know I'm sort of joking, but I just don't identify with what you're saying. If I'm no longer enjoying the proximity, I'd respect the person enough to talk to them about it instead of lying and cheating on them. I merely feel like you're devaluing the other person's emotions because in the end, it isn't imperative. And for what it's worth, I think that if having sex is the predominant concern, it would rapidly get boring at some point for me. I just can't see myself sleeping with someone who I don't find desirable enough to continue seeing, or without emotional investment. It seems like a waste, and it's insipidly vacuous and empty to me if that's all there is for the rest of my life.

With that said, I couldn't care less about this story. I have no particular desire to learn about what happened.

Condoning the act? I'm not condoning it. I made it clear that cheating is wrong, but only in the way that it's a lie. Also, I haven't picked the ordeal apart the way some of you clearly have (I prefer Sonic Youth's music to their personal lives), but the article with Kim didn't seem littered with juicy details. She found a text, they sought counseling, he continued to see the woman. I don't even know Thurston's side of the story. Whose to say something didn't lead to him feeling the need to have an affair in the first place? Probably not the case, but I can assure ya no one posting in this thread knows. And for good reason...it's none of your business.

And cheating does say something about most individuals. It's celebrated all over modern film, television, music. Cheating is sort of the new taboo as far as I can tell. Again, I don't think it's "OK", but it's reality. America will be better off when it opens it's mind toward the fact that people want and are going to have sex with more than one person and accepts that for what it is. It doesn't mean you love someone less. Again, it's only cheating if you lie about it.

And you're young and a bit inexperienced/etc....but I can assure you friend, anyone that has been with the same person for 3+ years and says they find their partner just as interesting and sexually satisfying as they did when they met is lying. Why do people watch porn? Do most people that watch porn only watch the same porn star over and over and over and over? Probably not. I definitely don't.
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i'm not a fucking animal. define animal? my sex drive? then yes.

i've been in relationships longer than 3 years and never once did it cross my mind to fuck another.

is this a male or female thang? most people who cheat are fucked in the head and are totally confused. again, i dont agree with you.

oh, and of course most women in bed aren't the same but which one you want? the one that sucks head good or the one that soaks yr balls with cum? it's still all the same if you know how to teach.

total shit.

You were in a relationship for three years and not a single thought of fucking someone else ever crossed your mind? You're a liar. You can honestly say even while masturbating you'd only think about your partner? Again, liar.

Most people that cheat, or have cheated, are humans. Most humans are not without flaw. Not being without flaw doesn't make one fucked in the head, however.
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i hope you feel like this for the rest of your life because it's so true and wise. cudos.

i've been offered just to marry because of sex and that's^^^^the reason why i didn't. again cudos.

Shit sounded like hallmark card wisdom man. Lordy.
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well maybe i dont want to cheat because i care about people and their feelings.

sex and love has a lot to do with it. and again, not everyone cheats.

Is sex and love why you and your baby's momma are no longer together? Just a thought.
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And you're young and a bit inexperienced/etc....but I can assure you friend, anyone that has been with the same person for 3+ years and says they find their partner just as interesting and sexually satisfying as they did when they met is lying. Why do people watch porn? Do most people that watch porn only watch the same porn star over and over and over and over? Probably not. I definitely don't.

don't agree. are you saying just because someone watches porn but still invest their time in a 3+year relationship wants more or something else and are bored in their current sex life? are you saying they want to cheat? or maybe have an open sex life with 3 somes and groupsex? or do you just disapprove the whole concept of marriage to begin with? are you even talking about marriage?

the possibilities are endless but cause consequences. fucking yr girl while she sucks another dude is not that awesome esp if you expect her to act like a pornstar.

i've already stated my opinions on menage a trois. it's not that good.
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Is sex and love why you and your baby's momma are no longer together? Just a thought.

because she was seeing someone else before i got her pregnant. essentially she was already in a relationship with someone else while fucking me.

my previous post in this thread should all make sense now. it's also clearly why i'm against cheating. and why i'm a bitter asshole.
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don't agree. are you saying just because someone watches porn but still invest their time in a 3+year relationship wants more or something else and are bored in their current sex life? are you saying they want to cheat? or maybe have an open sex life with 3 somes and groupsex? or to just disapprove the whole concept of marriage to begin with? are you even talking about marriage?

the possibilities are endless but cause consequences. fucking yr girl while she sucks another dude is not that awesome esp if you expect her to act like a pornstar.

i've already stated my opinions on menage a trois.

No, I am saying people have sexual organs that become aroused from time to time and as a result they want to have sex. Whether they stay loyal to one partner or not is not the issue here. The desire is there regardless.

Marriage doesn't really mean much of anything. It's just a word some people use to describe the degree of relationship they sometimes view themselves as being in. Married people are no less or more likely to have an affair than anyone else.

In support of my argument, Kim herself stated the relationship ended in a typical way.

Also, you're talking to someone who doesn't support marriage. I support other people's right to do it, but I'll never be married. Even if I do one day decide to truly settle down and devote my everything to one person, marriage will not be an option. I've ditched two previous girlfriends simply for suggesting the idea too much. Truth.

And yes, I'm very open about my feelings and opinions. My current girlfriend knows how I feel about sex, love, marriage. She hasn't left me yet.
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because she was seeing someone else before i got her pregnant. essentially she was already in a relationship while fucking me.

my previous post in this thread should all make sense now.

Ah, so she was cheating. So in some way you yourself still support the act
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Ah, so she was cheating. So in some way you yourself still support the act

no, because like i said in my previous post, i had no idea. not a word spoken to me about it.
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no, because like i said in my previous post, i had no idea. not a word spoken to me about it.

Well in that case, good for you! At least you stand by your guns even if I don't prefer the type of guns you carry.
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Old 04.25.2013, 03:22 AM   #80
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hey, is it also ok to talk shit about yr husband to yr boyfriend while still seeing him everyday of the week?

this is what this chick does. crazy huh? i don't feel i'm contridicting myself because i'm not doing the cheating nor do i fully approve of all this?

but it so good at the same time. i often wonder what she says about me behind my back? insane.
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