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Old 02.12.2013, 04:38 PM   #21
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What tone is that exactly? What we can joke about heterosexuality but not homosexuality now? Can we even joke about sexuality at all? Perhaps we should have nothing but Frederick Douglass serious discussions eh? Yeah, because Genteel Death is NOTORIOUS for being so damned respectable, polite, and serious on the forum all the time

My tone was completely facetious and joking, as much as if someone suggested banning Kim Kardashean to Rob and I joked about large derriere. There is a difference between objectifying and acknowledging. Kim likes her behind, she likes men to like her behind, Rob is a fan. I am sure that many gay wrestlers would like Genteel Death's attention, hence my joking about it. I am the Orthodox Christian and y'all are the ones who are uptight about homosexuality here? HAHAHA, that is comedy at a Shakespearean level. I'm gonna go laugh it up with all my gay folks in the community, and y'all can stew in your self-created indignation, and maybe in the bottom of that sulking find a sense of humor?

I dont think you were objectifying genteel_death, whom i dont take seriously for a number of reasons that are of no interest to anyone, but if the best response you have to a gay man is "Well we know why YOU watch it" then your "humour" is about as sophisticated as The Merry Old Wives of Windsor (Yes, i can reference Shakespeare too).
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Old 02.12.2013, 04:43 PM   #22
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I dont think you were objectifying genteel_death, whom i dont take seriously for a number of reasons that are of no interest to anyone, but if the best response you have to a gay man is "Well we know why YOU watch it" then your "humour" is about as sophisticated as The Merry Old Wives of Windsor (Yes, i can reference Shakespeare too).

Crude yes, but spiteful? No. I'm not going to drag out some kind of self-aggrandizing defense, I said what I said, folks who know will know, folks who don't won't, and therefore it is what is. I know where I stand in the world and if others don't I can't persuade them otherwise if they've already made their own prejudiced opinions based off my known religion and culture. Now can we get back to the Olympics or skateboarding rather then let this devolve into some kind hyperbole saturated tirade. If folks want to know why the forum is dying, its because everybody is either so damned serious all the time (myself included) or the opposite, but rarely do we talk about music any more or sonic youth anymore. Is there another SonicYouth forum I can join?
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Old 02.12.2013, 04:55 PM   #23
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Crude yes, but spiteful? No. I'm not going to drag out some kind of self-aggrandizing defense, I said what I said, folks who know will know, folks who don't won't, and therefore it is what is. I know where I stand in the world and if others don't I can't persuade them otherwise if they've already made their own prejudiced opinions based off my known religion and culture. Now can we get back to the Olympics or skateboarding rather then let this devolve into some kind hyperbole saturated tirade. If folks want to know why the forum is dying, its because everybody is either so damned serious all the time (myself included) or the opposite, but rarely do we talk about music any more or sonic youth anymore. Is there another SonicYouth forum I can join?

I dont think youre guilty of lowering the tone on here in general actually, there are far worse culprits than you who arent capable of a discussion, hence why i maybe felt it was ok to point it out. And as i sided with Knox when i felt there were stupid things said, i would feel like a bit of a hypocrite if i didnt side with Porky if something stupid is said as well.
Or would you prefer i posted some gratuitous pornography instead?

Edit: And also, i think im arguing with YOU in particular, why do you assume that there are swathes of people being put off posting who all see things the same way as you do?
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Old 02.12.2013, 04:59 PM   #24
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I dont think you were objectifying genteel_death, whom i dont take seriously for a number of reasons that are of no interest to anyone, but if the best response you have to a gay man is "Well we know why YOU watch it" then your "humour" is about as sophisticated as The Merry Old Wives of Windsor (Yes, i can reference Shakespeare too).
So you are selective in your defense of objectification? How hypocritical. I knew you weren't to be trusted as an individual, but now it's so transparent you only align with the oppressed in order to make yourself feel better. Disgusted.
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Old 02.12.2013, 05:07 PM   #25
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In fairness, when ive said "I dont think you were objectifying Genteel_Death" there, I was responding to Suchy's other post, and that doesnt explain what i mean in full. It was an objectifying thing to say, and I did have a go at him for making that cheap jibe at you, I wouldnt have chimed in if i didnt think there was something crass about it. So all past grievances aside, that was a clarification that I should have made
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Old 02.12.2013, 05:11 PM   #26
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worse still, you can't tell when someone is being a liar, if you read suchfriends' posts better.
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Old 02.12.2013, 05:18 PM   #31
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Open up a Transworld, check out kids 360 flipping FIFTEEN stairs for free shoes as amateurs and say its NOT Olympic caliber? In my day, when Daewon Song first kickflipped off a roof we were like WTF!! Now, kids do that for FUN! FOR FUN!!

Dude, seriously. Skateboarding has evolved to something so insanely athletic, something so aeronautically spetacular, something to technically precise, and something so visually impressive that is NEEDS to be in the Olympics. I think it would simply BLOW peoples' minds to see what kids can do today with a Skateboard, its not exactly what it used to be.

I don;t consider it an authentic competitive sport. skating is about feel, and attitude, and style, and that is more of an arts competition, not an athletic competition. I don't think ballroom dancing, for all it's athleticism, is a sport either. Just because competitions are held does not make it a sport.
There has to be a real quantifiable measure of competition. This is why I think events that are judged by a panel should not be in the Olympics. That includes diving, gymnastics, and ice skating. The corruption is rampant, and there is no verifiable way to tell who won or who lost.

In high jump, whoever jumps highest wins. In discus, whoevere throws farthest wins. In wrestling, whoevere pins the other one first wins. in racing, whoever finishes first wins. These are quantifiable measures. while I love to see good diving, and good gymnastics, I find the model for competition very lacking. the same is true for skating events, except maybe for the "biggest air" competition.


skateboarding competitions are, and you know this, fake events designed to promote the culture and sell product.
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The Olympics have goddamn TRAMPOLINE as an event! and now no wrestling!
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Too Late The Ikara Cult. Too Late. We Can't Tolerate It Anymore.

Well fair enough. I felt a cheap point had been made, and even though it was made against you, i felt it merited responding to. You pointed out that i said something inconsistent in my responding to it, and im happy to acknowledge you were right. You wanna frame that and put it on the mantlepiece, more power to you.
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Why do you not just admit you pontificate on political issues just because of personal sympathies and be done with it? Honestly, I'd have more respect for you if you did.
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Why do you not just admit you pontificate on political issues just because of personal sympathies and be done with it? Honestly, I'd have more respect for you if you did.

and which personal sympathies are these?
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Because you just said you know the basis of my opinions.
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