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Old 12.27.2012, 02:26 PM   #81
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I think the writer is pointing out that the images you were shown repeatedly had nothing to do with the actual massacre.

trauma based mind control operating at a mass level.

maybe instead of parroting the mainstream media with its namecalling bullying, ("nutjob! nutjob! nutjob!) maybe you can tell us where the video surveillance is?

(a) This the computer era, photographs and video is so easily manipulated I would think you of all pseudo-paranoid conspiracy folks would be the first to not trust such..

 


(b) You're request for video evidence is if anything all the more indicative of the reality that our society has devolved into an almost voyeuristic one, where we all demand photos and videos invading each others' mutual privacy. Tragedy is not an opportunity for TMZ coverage. I don't WANT to see surveillance video of dozens of small children being attacked, or their noble teachers panicking in the face of a microcosmic Apocalypse. Do you really need to see this video to accept that regardless of the circumstances, dozens of people mostly small children were slaughtered?
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Old 12.27.2012, 03:22 PM   #82
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(a) This the computer era, photographs and video is so easily manipulated I would think you of all pseudo-paranoid conspiracy folks would be the first to not trust such..

 


(b) You're request for video evidence is if anything all the more indicative of the reality that our society has devolved into an almost voyeuristic one, where we all demand photos and videos invading each others' mutual privacy. Tragedy is not an opportunity for TMZ coverage. I don't WANT to see surveillance video of dozens of small children being attacked, or their noble teachers panicking in the face of a microcosmic Apocalypse. Do you really need to see this video to accept that regardless of the circumstances, dozens of people mostly small children were slaughtered?

This.

The thing is, there could be a smoking gun and a shooter right there, and conspiracy theorists still wouldn't be happy.
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Old 12.31.2012, 12:29 PM   #83
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(b) You're request for video evidence is if anything all the more indicative of the reality that our society has devolved into an almost voyeuristic one,

All I asked for was the video of Lanza shooting in the front door of the school all by his lonesome. I don't wish to see a bunch of dead children. CSI on network TV serves that social function if desired.

Even the Chinese released this which shows more than I need to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cFqEnVqKUJ4

This article does ask some good questions:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12...ti-gun-psy-op/

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Old 01.01.2013, 06:40 AM   #84
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All I asked for was the video of Lanza shooting in the front door of the school all by his lonesome. I don't wish to see a bunch of dead children. CSI on network TV serves that social function if desired.

Even the Chinese released this which shows more than I need to see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cFqEnVqKUJ4

This article does ask some good questions:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12...ti-gun-psy-op/

and I was unaware this was going on:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/facebook...-accounts.html

Perhaps you should contact all future child murderers and ask them to set up a lighting rig by the entrance of the school they wish to decimate, pose for a few seconds showing all angles of their face, recite their name and provide a signed, written, and sealed letter explaining themselves and their motives to you personally.

Ive actually been watching a few old 9/11 conspiracy "debates" over the last couple of days, theyre actually quite quaint now.
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Old 01.01.2013, 07:46 AM   #85
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Perhaps you should contact all future child murderers and ask them to set up a lighting rig by the entrance of the school they wish to decimate, pose for a few seconds showing all angles of their face, recite their name and provide a signed, written, and sealed letter explaining themselves and their motives to you personally.

Ive actually been watching a few old 9/11 conspiracy "debates" over the last couple of days, theyre actually quite quaint now.

Don't get me started on that one. I have one seemingly every week with a guy at work about it. Along with his theories that aliens built the Great Pyramid and the one about NWO ruling the world.
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Old 01.01.2013, 08:06 AM   #86
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Its because everyone has broadband now, they expect all the information to be crystal clear immediately and for there to be no contradictions or inconsistencies, which always happens in the immediate aftermath of a chaotic event. Conspiracy theorists then jump on these and link them together to form an alternative plot (Its always a plot, theres always a demon behind it) and when a more thorough investigation is done, anyone involved is part of a "cover up".
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Old 01.01.2013, 03:32 PM   #87
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Its because everyone has broadband now, they expect all the information to be crystal clear immediately and for there to be no contradictions or inconsistencies, which always happens in the immediate aftermath of a chaotic event. Conspiracy theorists then jump on these and link them together to form an alternative plot (Its always a plot, theres always a demon behind it) and when a more thorough investigation is done, anyone involved is part of a "cover up".

Isn't it interesting. For thousands of years of human culture and history, conspiracy thrives on the lack of available knowledge and information, building up like mythology. So in theory, in our modern, instant-gratification era of streaming video and uber-updated social medial privacy invasion, all conspiracies should have simply evaporated under the sheer absurdity of some of it. However, alas, the interwebs has actually made conspiracies even MORE entrenched than ever.. its really weird actually. Even something mundane like the "Fail Mary" fiasco between the Packers and the Seahawks. The more I watched videos and looked at dissected photos it was all the more clear to me that Seahawks caught the ball, and indeed, months later most sports writers are of the same conclusion. However at there are still all the more websites and diagrams trying in vain to prove the opposite, and 99% of Americans probably still think that Packers were robbed.. A picture really does say a thousand words, unfortunately its a thousand different words to a thousand different people..
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and somehow these theorists always find a way to blame the jews as i unsuprisingly saw in some of telsa's articles.
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and somehow these theorists always find a way to blame the jews as i unsuprisingly saw in some of telsa's articles.

The level of antisemitism that runs through a hell of a lot of conspiracy theories really is just shocking.
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ahhh, the gun show....

The truth is that most guns used in crime are gotten illegally. They are not purchased from dealers, or at gun shows. The black market for guns is HUGE
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ahhh, the gun show....

The truth is that most guns used in crime are gotten illegally. They are not purchased from dealers, or at gun shows. The black market for guns is HUGE

Yes, people go to gun shows and "legally" buy several, then report them missing or stolen or just don't, and them sell them "illegally" to the criminal black market. Further, the ATF reports 30,000 stolen firearms ANNUALLY in the US, that is a lot of potentiality for crime. Lastly, criminals steal them from warehouses, shipping docks, and train freight yards, where there are literally guns by the rail car and shipping container. So the reality is criminals and legitimate people inevitably get their guns from the same exact places. In LA County we've had a wonderful phenomenon, we zoned out most of the firearms retailers, and low and behold our murder and violent crime rates have decreased 600% since 1992. That is because there are less guns to steal from gun shops, the docks, and freight yards. Less guns to sell equals less guns to steal equals less guns on the street to harm and kill, period. This is not ideology, this is the reality of gun-control in Los Angeles over the past 20 years. As guns dried up, crime didn't increase, criminal access didn't increase, quite the opposite, our city and county and region became an unimaginably safer place. When I was growing up in elementary school, there were neighborhoods in Los Angeles with murder and violent crime rates as high as Baghdad or Allepo. Thank the Lord it is not like that anymore, LA is hardly recognizable from the stereotypes of the 1980s and 1990s, and we thank God firstly and gun control secondly. Texas, you should pay attention, I understand your violent crime and murder rates are rising despite all that solid gun ownership
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In LA County we've had a wonderful phenomenon, we zoned out most of the firearms retailers, and low and behold our murder and violent crime rates have decreased 600% since 1992. That is because there are less guns to steal from gun shops, the docks, and freight yards. Less guns to sell equals less guns to steal equals less guns on the street to harm and kill, period. This is not ideology, this is the reality of gun-control in Los Angeles over the past 20 years.


NYC's homicides have gone down from like 2000 to 200 annually in the same period but the gun laws haven't changed. There has been a large reduction in crime all over the country, with some exceptions. The cops in NYC have so much time on their hands they leave wallets laying around and then arrest the people who pick them up.

I don't think you can put the reduction all on a zoning change. Maybe I'm wrong.
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