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Old 04.12.2006, 11:53 AM   #41
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I see what you mean...
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I find, what most people would term, 'non-guitarists' more interesting than 'guitarists'.
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Old 04.12.2006, 11:59 AM   #42
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I am not speaking this way because of gender; I speak this way because I see both of these musicians as "guitar as sound source" players rather than "guitarists."

I have seen Christina do one set that was very good.
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Old 04.12.2006, 01:27 PM   #43
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jimi hendrix was my first guitar hero and is still #1
some others...
john fahey
sonny sharrock
dude from the sun city girls whose name i always confuse with his brothers, but whose last name is most certainly bishop
rudolph grey (blue humans)
kawabata makoto (acid mothers temple)
tony iommi (black saabbbbath)
thurston mooore
blind willie johnson
elizabeth cotton
d boon (minutemen)

are steve vai, yngweieieieiei malmmomomstine, eric johnson etc actually real musicians? i mean does anybody really listen to their music. i always assumed they were just inventions of the guitar industry to help sell overpriced "signature series" crap. kind of like everyone's favorite homeshopping network star, esteban, only slightly more ridiculous.
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Old 04.12.2006, 01:33 PM   #44
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Sir Richard Bishop.
He is incredible.
Malmsteen and Vai are what I like to call "guitar teacher/guitar magazine" musicians.
No one else cares.
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Old 04.12.2006, 02:26 PM   #45
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I like seeing women play guitar too, but I would rather watch the girl from Boris any day over Christina or Elisa. She is more of a "guitarist," rather than someone holding a guitar as a means to an end.

elisa is no better guitarist than jewel or sheryl crow. just different genres

vai and malmsteen are boring and just in it for the glory, for them it's like a race or a competition, not about music. i read an interview with vai once that said something like if you want to play simple music with meaning and taste then you are a half assed comformist who doesn't deserve to be called a guitar player.

there are more tasteful shredders-like guitarists
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Old 04.12.2006, 02:34 PM   #46
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Just because Elisa uses a guitar doesn't make her a "guitarist," and I mean that as no slam on her music. It is a sound source at that point; the fact that the object is technically a guitar is immaterial.
That's all I was trying to say; I really didn't mean to come off as a jerk, and apologies if I did.
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Old 04.12.2006, 02:41 PM   #47
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Thurston and Lee
Sonic Boom and Jason spaceman(spacemen 3)
Taka and Yoda(mono)
keiji haino
Kevin Shields(MBV)
Sonny Sharrock
Takeshi Mizutani(Les Rallizes Denudes)
Brij Bhushan Kabra
John Fahey
Robbie Basho(a seriously underrated guitar player)
Vini Riely(another very underrated guitar player)
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Old 04.12.2006, 02:45 PM   #48
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Nice Mizutani avatar!

I would put him on my list of faves too.
Basho was a great guitarist; I have a tough time with his voice though.
I also love:
Rinji Fukuoka
Paul Metzger
Sandy Bull
Bert Jansch
Munehiro Narita
Randy Holden
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Old 04.12.2006, 03:06 PM   #49
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Nice Mizutani avatar!

I would put him on my list of faves too.
Basho was a great guitarist; I have a tough time with his voice though.

thanks, I am really obsessed with Les Rallizes Denudes right now.
Yeah, everybody seems to have that problem with Basho's voice.

Nice womb avatar, by the way!
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Old 04.12.2006, 04:54 PM   #50
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Thurston Moore and William Reid (JAMC).
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Old 04.12.2006, 05:02 PM   #51
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Is that guy in any bands now?
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Old 04.12.2006, 05:09 PM   #52
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Old 04.12.2006, 05:10 PM   #53
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I don't see what is so great about Derek Bailey.. I just don't..
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I don't see what is so great about Derek Bailey.. I just don't..

i really don't know but i love it!!
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Old 04.12.2006, 07:10 PM   #55
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Jim Martin of Faith No More

Is that guy in any bands now?


i heard he was a pumpkin farmer. take it for what its worth
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Old 04.12.2006, 08:01 PM   #56
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Malmsteen, Yngwie is a beyond talented guitarist. If you appreciate music on a strictly technical level, you must appreciate him. The music is still shit, but I enjoy it on that level, and that level alone.

Props to whoever mentioned chappy from Les Rallizes Denudes. Who are excellent. It's all effects over talent, but there's nothing wrong with that.
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Old 04.12.2006, 08:03 PM   #57
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Les Rallizes Denudes have talent. The word "talent" really has nothing to do (in my mind at least) with "technical proficiency," which is what you are talking about. Rallizes make killer music and they pushed the envelope far and wide and are as influentail as the Velvet Underground when it comes to Japanese psych, so to say they have "no talent" is inaccurate. They are talented because they make good music. I would also argue that they have less technical ability than average, but that's nitpicking since we are obviously both big fans.

Yngwie drives me nuts.
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there are lots of people i could name, but keiji haino really is my absolute favourite.
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hes like no one else.
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