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Old 10.12.2017, 09:06 PM   #1961
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Old 10.13.2017, 05:44 AM   #1962
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Las Vegas mass shooting victim Rocky Palermo was shot in the pelvis during the horrific attack and is now speaking out about what he saw and believes happened, including the presence of multiple shooters as well as locked concert gates and police telling frantic civilians to go in the other direction.
Palermo, who has done various interviews since the attack, appeared on “The Blast” with a series of shocking comments that correlate with various other reports indicating that multiple shooters carried out the attack and that the FBI is actively covering this up.
“I definitely do believe that there was 100% more than one shooter, every other person that I’ve talked to that did unfortunately get hit as well, have all said the same things,” Palermo detailed.

Shockingly, he then goes on to detail the fact that at the end of the concert the previous two nights everyone had exited a specific way but on the night of the shooting this route was locked down shortly before the attack.
“Every other night at the concert, everybody kinda exited right off Las Vegas Blvd, that was standard, that was routine, you get out of the concert and you go down to the next casino,” he continued.
“At 10pm they closed every exit on Las Vegas Blvd, every single one. They gated them all closed with chain-link fences, 10:08 the shooting started and we were pigs sitting in a corral. We only had one exit to go out of…..everyone was just kinda following the sheep.”
Palermo makes clear this confused concert goers who had used the normal exits in the past.
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Old 10.13.2017, 08:39 AM   #1963
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My wife asked me about the people mentioning multiple shooters on the ground in Vegas. Think about it this way. You have ten thousand red-blooded 'murican country music fans, enjoying a outdoor concert. There are bound to be at the least (extremely conservatively guessing), 100 people in that crowd who showed up armed, whether with concealed carry license or not. If a mass of people start feeling/seeing bullets flying around them and shit, you don;t think that at l;east 4 or 5 f those armed and likely inebriated patrons did not start shooting at whatever they thought was shooting at them? It seems much more plausible than thinkng it was all a pre-planned massacre with multiple shooters arranged throughout. There was no way for any "team:" of shooters on ground to NOT be in the line of fire of Paddock shooting from high vantage point. that would be a stupid stupid plan.
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Old 10.13.2017, 04:49 PM   #1964
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If it is so straightforward why is the family of Jesus Campos under a gag order - Campos being the "security guard" who is not registered as a security guard in NV as required by law.

And how do we explain this
http://www.nbcwashington.com/multime...449039553.html

This stinks to high hell.

Listen to the ACTUAL police scanners recordings, report after report of shootings at different casinos. Are they all 'fog of war'?

There are cameras everywhere, but in the dozens of videos I've watched there is not ONE that shows a flash from the 32nd floor.

I also like the death photos where Paddock has a tripod and gun perched over his leg, and there is brass on top of the dried up blood that came out of his head.

I think there is tight security at an outdoor concert even in Vegas - the police scanner reported at one point to make sure your patrol car is locked because civilians are trying to take the shotguns out the cars! God bless these folks who weren't willing to be sitting ducks. There have been no reports of concertgoers shooting guns. There is more than one video showing people freaking out during the shooting but one guy carefully holding his beer as he runs.

There is one citizen analyst who notes the sound of helicopters seems to increase whenever shooting is heard, as if there were people shooting from the helicopters..

The other thing I think that stinks is I heard of at least 2 people who were shot 3x, the munitions people online say it is just about impossible to do that from 300 yards away with a automatic weapon even for an expert marksman. Police and military are trained to shoot in sets of 3.

The Vegas police are barring independent reporters now from their news conferences.
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Old 10.14.2017, 01:32 AM   #1965
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Here is the Rocky Palmero video......police scanner chatter when you scroll down.

A few things to consider about concert goers packing guns:

A. my guess would be 90% flew to Vegas...how do guns get past TEA?

B. wouldn't concert goers have to pass through metal detectors before entering?

Being on the ground surrounded by such tall buildings, it would be difficult to pinpoint where the gunshots were originating by sound. Couldn't being struck in the pelvis be from a ricochet?



Does anyone remember the Waco Biker Shootout? While I'm not trying to fan any conspiracy flames, it is very clear that the FBI, Fedral Government or the State of Texas has shut the clamps on this case. So many dead people and not one trial or conviction......don't even believe charges have been filed and it's two years later.
The FBI shutting / locking down a case is sometimes more strategic than conspiracy.
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Old 10.14.2017, 09:03 AM   #1966
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Why wouldn't they pursue the Waco shootout unless the gangs are full of undercovers or offduties (like the motorcycle gangs here in NYC).

So most people don't realize that
Mandalay Bay - Wikipedia

Five floors (floors 35-39) of the main hotel building are occupied by the five-star and AAA Five-Diamond Four Seasons Hotel Las Vegas.


and the owners are

Since 2007, Bill Gates and Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal have been majority owners of the company


One theory is the reason the door in the hallway was propped open was so the killers could easily escape upstairs to their Saudi handlers. Remember who attacked us on 9/11- Saudis funded by Saudi royals.
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Old 10.27.2017, 04:30 PM   #1967
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what we're up against - its a damned good story at the least

According to a source in the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department:: “The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.The Mandalay Bay affair was likely part of a covert program to transfer weapons from the vaults of the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agency of Homeland Security), fitted with hidden RFID tracking chips, to ISIS militants inside the USA. Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun-running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

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Old 11.02.2017, 06:34 PM   #1968
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Witnesses to and direct victims of the Vegas ISIS attack are dropping like flies - even Jason Aldean's attorney
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Sorry, nothing happened in Vegas. It is a peaceful, beautiful place. full of love.

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Old 11.25.2017, 05:19 PM   #1970
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another Vegas survivor death, by hit'n'run

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pretty sure there is a dead mouse behind the stove, which doesn't move - gotta call the super...
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So, pope's on tour, not being really well received....I wonder if he returned just a smidgen of that massive pile of South American gold he's sitting on that he might be looked on a little more favorably.
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Not my imagination, the coverup is right before our eyes. The coroner destroyed the evidence!

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People piss me off right now. I'm getting sensory overload from everything that's happening around me and as a consequence I kind of have the urge to just shut myself off. I feel like there are a lot of attempts at emotional manipulation going on and that shit is dragging me down. Had to rebuff two individuals I once trusted pretty harshly this year alone, at least one of them got the hint. That shit is tiring. At the same time I feel like I might indeed have gotten a bit too aloof. Takes me longer to answer to requests, messages, missed phone-calls, whatever. And I feel sorry for those that did nothing wrong, but just find themselves caught up in the radius of my lethargy. Gotta find a middleground somehow.
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People piss me off right now. I'm getting sensory overload from everything that's happening around me and as a consequence I kind of have the urge to just shut myself off.

this is a health instinct

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I feel like there are a lot of attempts at emotional manipulation going on and that shit is dragging me down. Had to rebuff two individuals I once trusted pretty harshly this year alone, at least one of them got the hint. That shit is tiring.

i dont know about emotional manipulations, but as an introvert, born and bred, social interaction can be a huge drain. i need solitude to recharge.

whereas extrovers get recharged with social connection and get sleepy when alone.

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At the same time I feel like I might indeed have gotten a bit too aloof. Takes me longer to answer to requests, messages, missed phone-calls, whatever.

as above

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And I feel sorry for those that did nothing wrong, but just find themselves caught up in the radius of my lethargy.

it is not a punishment to others to be reserved and manage one’s limited energy supply.

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Gotta find a middleground somehow.

how about you honor your nature and, as nietzsche asked, become what you are? i mean without the guilt. if you’re not a people person— just reduce your circle to a carefully handpicked number you can pay attention to and don’t feel guilty about it.
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this is a health instinct

it keeps you from blowing a fuse



i dont know about emotional manipulations, but as an introvert, born and bred, social interaction can be a huge drain. i need solitude to recharge.

whereas extrovers get recharged with social connection and get sleepy when alone.



as above



it is not a punishment to others to be reserved and manage one’s limited energy supply.



how about you honor your nature and, as nietzsche asked, become what you are? i mean without the guilt. if you’re not a people person— just reduce your circle to a carefully handpicked number you can pay attention to and don’t feel guilty about it.


Once again, I guess you're right. I've certainly never been an extrovert. Don't know if you'd call me an introvert or an ambivert. It's not always an open and shut case. Maybe I'm an ambivert with tendencies towards introversion, or I'm an introvert who just pushes himself too far. Sometimes I surprise myself with how sociable I can be in certain instances. But it's not something I can keep up for days on end, I need my space. Some people totally get that. Others have a hard time grasping this.

And about whether I'm a people person or not - well, it's difficult. I care about the people around me. But I'm most comfortable with people that have a very relaxed attitude towards having some space/distance. And I always had a problem with people that seem to force their emotional baggage on you. But maybe that's just my estimation.

One thing's for certain: I haven't always been able to maintain the type of distance I need to compute lately. And I need to change something about that. Thanks for lending an ear again.
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I'm a similar personality type I guess, and struggled with this. (Sort of. Not the rebuffing thing. Haven't had to rebuff anyone in years. Advantage to being ugly.)

Then I tried something. I asked for space.

Just tell people. Seems weird and awkward at first. You might feel freakish. Or just rude. I did.

But surprise! People are amazingly respectful, in my experience. After all, no one wants to be the asshole fucking up your life. Besides, people have their own lives, other things to do. They really won't mind if they don't have to bother with you for a day or so.

(I assume you don't need more than a day or two of space, right? If you need to vanish for a month, then something else is going on.)
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Then I tried something. I asked for space.

Just tell people.


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yeah being an introvert is not being shy. i’m not shy. i have no problem meeting strangers or speaking in public. i just get tired around people—they overload my circuits. i need rest afterwards.

i can be super-sociable when i’m rested and feel like it. of course then i go home and spend days replaying every conversation in my head ha ha ha. takes up a lot of hard drive.

and what evollove said— yes. just explain that you need your space. for example, you can tell people that you want to work on your paintings or your music or whatever, and you’ll see them in a few days or something.

if they don’t respect your boundaries (some people have no respect for boundaries) then it’s time to put your foot down. but i find that the more comfortable you are with your own needs the less you need to resort to those extremes because people already got the idea.
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yeah being an introvert is not being shy. i’m not shy. i have no problem meeting strangers or speaking in public. i just get tired around people—they overload my circuits. i need rest afterwards.

i can be super-sociable when i’m rested and feel like it. of course then i go home and spend days replaying every conversation in my head ha ha ha. takes up a lot of hard drive.

and what evollove said— yes. just explain that you need your space. for example, you can tell people that you want to work on your paintings or your music or whatever, and you’ll see them in a few days or something.

if they don’t respect your boundaries (some people have no respect for boundaries) then it’s time to put your foot down. but i find that the more comfortable you are with your own needs the less you need to resort to those extremes because people already got the idea.


Yeah, that's why I mostly identify myself with being an introvert. Because there is this invisible energy gauge that needs to be filled for me to be out there and all sociable. I also wouldn't call myself shy these days, though I was when I was kid. This test I took once had me as an ambivert, though teetering towards introversion. Then again, such tests are pretty arbitrary most of the time.

Yeah, it's probably the most reasonable solution. Thanks, guys!
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