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Old 10.12.2012, 12:15 PM   #1
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Walking down 44th @ 6th Ave I realized the older guy with punk hair was John Lydon, I was going to leave him alone but I was compelled to walk up to him and thank him for all the great music over the years, "I know I don't look it" I said to him, dressed in my sportcoat and gabardines...I've been a fan since 1980 at least...he seemed genuinely pleased that I introduced myself.
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Old 10.12.2012, 02:09 PM   #3
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Walking down 44th @ 6th Ave I realized the older guy with punk hair was John Lydon, I was going to leave him alone but I was compelled to walk up to him and thank him for all the great music over the years, "I know I don't look it" I said to him, dressed in my sportcoat and gabardines...I've been a fan since 1980 at least...he seemed genuinely pleased that I introduced myself.


Wait, isn't gawking over punx the antithesis of the punk ethos in the first place? I've met Dick from Subhumans a few times, so what?
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Because Dick from subhumans didn't sing fucking POPTONES!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10.12.2012, 03:23 PM   #5
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Because Dick from subhumans didn't sing fucking POPTONES!!!!!!!!!!

 

Lets run the numbers..

Johnny Rotten part of what became the most commercial, exploited, and mainstreamed "punk" band of all time. Further, he has sold out at several levels during his career and has evolved to some kind of punk commentator like the way basketball greats retire and comment on games during half-time on ESPN.

Dick has been touring consistently in Subhumans and Citizenfish for over THIRTY continuous years, still puts out great punk and ska albums, is beloved by the more authentic elements of the punk community, and is generally a likable guy instead of being some kind of curmudgeon..

I'd say vote for Dick over Johnny Rotten any day of the week, though in truth, punk ethos further avoids pissing contests so I can tip my hat one way or the other.. even to cliched bands like the Casualties
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On more than one occasion as a youth an otherwise decent party was marred by some wazzock insisting on playing a Citizen Fish record.
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Old 10.12.2012, 04:43 PM   #7
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Lets run the numbers..

Johnny Rotten part of what became the most commercial, exploited, and mainstreamed "punk" band of all time. Further, he has sold out at several levels during his career and has evolved to some kind of punk commentator like the way basketball greats retire and comment on games during half-time on ESPN.

Dick has been touring consistently in Subhumans and Citizenfish for over THIRTY continuous years, still puts out great punk and ska albums, is beloved by the more authentic elements of the punk community, and is generally a likable guy instead of being some kind of curmudgeon..

I'd say vote for Dick over Johnny Rotten any day of the week, though in truth, punk ethos further avoids pissing contests so I can tip my hat one way or the other.. even to cliched bands like the Casualties

Sonic Youth sold out too. Man.
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Old 10.12.2012, 04:52 PM   #8
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There are few things more tedious than "sellout" debates. But i saw PIL on Jools Holland the other week and on the basis of that performance he deserves every bit of flak he gets.
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Old 10.12.2012, 04:55 PM   #9
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Fuck that.

After what Johnny's done, he can host American Idol for all I care.

Anyway, nice story tesla, precisely because of its simplicity.
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There are few things more tedious than "sellout" debates. But i saw PIL on Jools Holland the other week and on the basis of that performance he deserves every bit of flak he gets.

You love to call someone a sellout as much as anyone else. I remember you saying to me that when I was porkmarras I was better than Genteel Death, or some shit like that.
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You love to call someone a sellout as much as anyone else. I remember you saying to me that when I was porkmarras I was better than Genteel Death, or some shit like that.

And i burned all my Porkmarras records as well. It was like Dylan goes electric
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Old 10.12.2012, 05:10 PM   #12
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And i burned all my Porkmarras records as well. It was like Dylan goes electric
On my first record. Flakey hipster. Can't your parents make records you can go back to and trust?
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Old 10.12.2012, 05:18 PM   #13
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Not any more. Linda's dead and Paul has long since become a parody of himself
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It makes our it a lot les heat breaking to get into the work John Lydon after you know he's gone to shit and then hear the first two PIL records, and then ignore everything else.
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johnny rotten is mentioned by name on the reggae song pistol boy so anyone who fronts on him is just not irie at all
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On more than one occasion as a youth an otherwise decent party was marred by some wazzock insisting on playing a Citizen Fish record.


I can agree, but would a Subhumans record have been as dissed?
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johnny rotten is mentioned by name on the reggae song pistol boy so anyone who fronts on him is just not irie at all

By the way, props for plugging some Militant Barry, so many even reggae archivist types don't have any idea who he is, let alone how kick ass his tunes are!

But still.. meh.
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I can agree, but would a Subhumans record have been as dissed?
One would like to think so.

On a serious note, I've managed to get through 33 years of listening to punk music without ever hearing Subhumans (the British band of that name anyway).
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One would like to think so.

On a serious note, I've managed to get through 33 years of listening to punk music without ever hearing Subhumans (the British band of that name anyway).
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There are few things more tedious than "sellout" debates. But i saw PIL on Jools Holland the other week and on the basis of that performance he deserves every bit of flak he gets.

Are you talking about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYyK8y6Bs0k

By all means, call it "shit" if you want, but "sell out" is not an accurate descriptor at all.
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