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Old 04.15.2014, 06:47 PM   #37501
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Old 04.15.2014, 07:17 PM   #37502
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yo, what tools do you use to tear it out?

i have a room with cheap/fugly vynil tiles glued with some black compound (tar-looking shit) to structural plywood, i think, sitting on 2x4s…

i tried drywall knives and it was a megabitch to cut a little hole. i wanna pull out the ugly shit but leave the 2x4s so i can pour an earthen floor inside, kinda like adobes. makes sense?

anyway, please recommend. crowbars? axes? shotguns? dynamite?

oh err, what's up.

i simply use a flat bar and a hammer and wiggle it back and forth to not break the tongue of the hardwood.

that vinyl is linoleum that you have glued down so it's a bitch to get up. nobody installs that shit unless it looks like tile.

i can never get that shit up with a scraper that i use. i've even tried heat guns to melt and then scrape it. depends on how much glue is down. you would have to tear it up and do a lot of prepping. hardcore.

either that or just replace the plywood. if it's a concrete slab it pretty easy, if not then you have floor joistes that are usually 16 inches apart in most houses. measure then nail.

i suggest never getting particle board for any floors. stick with plywood. it's a better moisture barrier.

earthen floor? i have no ideal how to do that but it should be easy. im guessing you need some kind of sub floor. i've read about in books but have no experience in that.
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Old 04.15.2014, 09:50 PM   #37503
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hey yeah. the linoleum is glued to plywood, tile-style. im not interested in ungluing that crap (impossible, really) but in prying up the whole plywood with the shit stuck on it. i'll try to jam a flat bar between the plywood and the 2x4s that supports it. there's some kind of nailing somewhere but i can't see it. maybe it's staples. i'll get me a big fucking bar and a bigass hammer. fun!!! (i love destruction-- i also hate linoleum)

re: earthen floors, it's more of a southwest thing, you start with a water barrier, cover in sand, then add sand+clay , sometimes straw, then finer and finer sand with clay. in the end you coat with linseed oil. the linseed oil bonds with the clay and plastifies and looks fucking beautiful.

here's some hippies working on one:

 


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Old 04.15.2014, 10:19 PM   #37504
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there's no way it would be staples then it would be manual. staples aren't strong at all of course so it must be nails. just straight up nails. yes, get your self a flat bar and hammer and pry that shit up from the 2X4's which are the floor joists. that shouldn't be that hard.

let me know about this earthen floor. i've seen it here and it's pretty common here and not just in the southwest. those pics look pretty sweet and i would love to install something like that.

if it's anything like laying tile with grout with a trial then im in.

i know a guy that can do this but he's a totally asshole redneck.
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Old 04.15.2014, 10:42 PM   #37505
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thanks man!

i'm gonna be experimenting with the earth floor but i'll see if i can post pix. i expect it to be shitty the first time around ha ha ha. but anything better than that nasty pvc stench and the dioxins of "vinyl" floor. blech.
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Old 04.15.2014, 10:54 PM   #37506
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ha cool!! post pics!!!

linoleum smells like disappointed counterculture mothers. it's hippie with a whole lot of of drag. i hate it!!! so 60's, 70's. get rid of that shit.
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Old 04.15.2014, 11:02 PM   #37507
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Old 04.16.2014, 03:51 AM   #37509
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Old 04.16.2014, 09:57 AM   #37510
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Old 04.16.2014, 10:34 AM   #37511
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Old 04.16.2014, 10:43 AM   #37512
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Old 04.17.2014, 12:14 PM   #37513
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Old 04.19.2014, 02:18 PM   #37515
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Y'all should just discuss flooring and/or home repair in general with foreverkiss more often, it is the most intelligible things he ever posts, and generally seems to most congenial and inviting
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Old 04.19.2014, 06:35 PM   #37516
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sad that this is a compliment, but its true. i've done some type of construction or contracting for years. my family does it so... i can paint and trim like a wino, do drywall, install tiles, and of course the almighty hardwood floors. if i wasnt so lazy i wouldn't be subbing for anyone at the moment.

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