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Old 12.27.2011, 11:49 AM   #61
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Kanye's music is better than any of the "swag" rappers you guys always hype up for a short while, then say they suck a couple of months later when it ain't so cool to like them anymore (*cough* first OF, now A$AP & Lil B)..

I'm no hip-hop expert, but I think Kanye sucks. Apart from his obviously meticulous and bombastic production, I see very little in that guy to like.

Granted, I've not heard A$AP or B. Probably better off.
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Old 12.27.2011, 12:28 PM   #62
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I'm no hip-hop expert, but I think Kanye sucks. Apart from his obviously meticulous and bombastic production, I see very little in that guy to like.

Granted, I've not heard A$AP or B. Probably better off.
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Old 12.27.2011, 02:41 PM   #63
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Pure X - Pleasure
Bill Callahan - Apocalypse
Braids - Native Speaker
Tim Hecker - Ravedeath 1972
Psychic Paramount - II
Wild Flag - S/T
Sun Araw - Ancient Romans
Thee Oh Sees - Carrion Crawler/the Dream
Steve Hauschildt - Tragedy & Geometry
PJ Harvey - Let England Shake

Probably made my favourite records from this year

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Echo Lake - Young Silence EP
The Field - Looping State of Mind
Holy Other - With U
Nicolas Jaar - Space is Only Noise
Pink Reason - Shit in the Garden
The Dum Dum Girls released some great singles
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Old 12.27.2011, 04:38 PM   #64
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[quote=E. Noisefield]I'm no hip-hop expert, [quote]

why do you say that?

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oh. I see. You're right. You're not a hip hop expert.
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Old 12.27.2011, 11:19 PM   #66
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[quote=noisereductions][quote=E. Noisefield]I'm no hip-hop expert,
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why do you say that?



oh. I see. You're right. You're not a hip hop expert.

No expert, but definitely a fan. I love hip-hop actually, and listen to it more than any genre. But I can't call myself an expert because I haven't put the attention into learning the names of band members, collecting rarities/mixtapes, and cascading my wall with images as I do with my post-punk derived comfort music.

But I fuckin' love hip-hop, and my tastes are pretty varied. Still....

Kanye West is a spectacle. His most recent was his best, and I agree that it was one of the better hip-hop albums of 2010, but his other shit is bogus and he's an ego driven rock star and I'm not into that unless there's irony involved.

Nothing against the guy, I just don't like his music and I think it's boring and lifeless and (gasp) worse than Eminem. Infinite and Slim }Shady at least.

His vids are reminiscent of Michael Jackson. That's kinda cool, but the fact hat it's been done removes the novelty of the idea.

I just don't dig him. There are three basic ways to be a brilliant hip-hop artists: 1) MC skills 2) originality of concepts and presentation 3) Particular relevance to the current time and place 4) super good production.

Kanye's got one of those, and a God complex. Bummer.
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Old 12.28.2011, 02:59 AM   #67
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lol?? Ye is a Dark-Horse for GOAT contention.
rule #1: he NEVER makes a bad album.

1) College Dropout & Late Registration are classics, and arguably even better than My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. doubt you've heard them.
2) Graduation is one of the best pop-rap albums.
3) 808's & Heartbreak is one of the most influental albums in the last few years.
4) Watch the Throne is his worst album rapping-wise, but still has some of the best production i've heard & Jay fucking freaks out on a few tracks.

Weezy used to be the king from 2004-2008. his last few features have already been much better & shown a spark of C3 Wayne.. he actually changes his music every year so let's hope C4 was just an accident & he'll make a comeback with Dedication 4 or I Can't Feel My Face.

inb4NRclaimingWaynehasneverfallenoff.
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Old 12.28.2011, 03:25 AM   #68
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Like Fun House. How cliche. A Sonic Youth fan that like the stooges. How typical. Maybe Dinosaur Jr. Sebadoh. Pixies. Kurt Fobane. No, that's even more fuckin obvious.
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Old 12.28.2011, 03:30 AM   #69
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Old 12.28.2011, 08:32 AM   #70
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Old 12.28.2011, 09:22 AM   #71
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Graduation is the only one i heard, besides a little of Dark Twisted Fantasy, and it's good. maybe i'll check out the rest of his stuff in the near future.
i dare to compare him to SY in the sense that he keeps re-inventing himself with each album. truly one of the greatest pop icons we have left anymore.
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Old 12.28.2011, 09:35 AM   #72
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Old 12.28.2011, 12:25 PM   #73
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lol?? Ye is a Dark-Horse for GOAT contention.
rule #1: he NEVER makes a bad album.

1) College Dropout & Late Registration are classics, and arguably even better than My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. doubt you've heard them.
2) Graduation is one of the best pop-rap albums.
3) 808's & Heartbreak is one of the most influental albums in the last few years.
4) Watch the Throne is his worst album rapping-wise, but still has some of the best production i've heard & Jay fucking freaks out on a few tracks.

Weezy used to be the king from 2004-2008. his last few features have already been much better & shown a spark of C3 Wayne.. he actually changes his music every year so let's hope C4 was just an accident & he'll make a comeback with Dedication 4 or I Can't Feel My Face.

inb4NRclaimingWaynehasneverfallenoff.

lol.

I agree w you on Kanye though. Anyone who says he is not ridiculously talented hasn't paid enough attention.
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Old 12.29.2011, 05:01 AM   #74
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Look you haven't been here long so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but some time ago this forum was actually a hotbed for discussion with Glice, atsonicpark, n'ik and others firing on all cyclinders about all sorts of topics. Slowly this wave of users died out and now this forum is a mangled corpse for whatever new user decides to sign up and make assertions about whatever generic topic someone who likes Sonic Youth would discuss.

And this isn't a 'gtfo noob' post either, I'm a relatively new member in the context of the board's history but the users replacing the old members are subpar and much like new episodes of the Simpsons, I can't help but criticize it again and again.
The way I see this (yes, I have been here also quite short time) hereīs been members who think theyīre better (more intellectual?) than others and there has been also members who have believed that. And those who donīt want to obey those "better" members will be soon attacked in some way. Itīs not just me, they have attacked also the persons who have lot more information about the music than I have.

If you really think we new ones are so stupid, why donīt you go somewhere more intellectual gossib? Or why donīt you send private posts so you donīt have to read any "stupid" posts? Or then you can start a thread with title "For the intellectual members only" you can bet I wonīt read it. I donīt have any need to discuss anything with you, Glice or Genteel Death. But I will be here as long as Sonic Youth exists, if they split, then I go away.
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Old 12.29.2011, 06:18 AM   #75
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The way I see this (yes, I have been here also quite short time) hereīs been members who think theyīre better (more intellectual?) than others and there has been also members who have believed that. And those who donīt want to obey those "better" members will be soon attacked in some way. Itīs not just me, they have attacked also the persons who have lot more information about the music than I have.

If you really think we new ones are so stupid, why donīt you go somewhere more intellectual gossib? Or why donīt you send private posts so you donīt have to read any "stupid" posts? Or then you can start a thread with title "For the intellectual members only" you can bet I wonīt read it. I donīt have any need to discuss anything with you, Glice or Genteel Death. But I will be here as long as Sonic Youth exists, if they split, then I go away.

In many ways you're really right. But, you know, this is also some forum on the internet, so fuck right off. And merry xmas.
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Old 12.29.2011, 03:28 PM   #76
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Old 12.30.2011, 12:50 AM   #77
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I have anything against anybody here. This is free forum where anybody can be. But if I understood correct, Derek just said the quality of discussions have gone lower and he thinks itīs new members fault. So in the internet world I think it is quite easy to put up a group where only qualified can come, if the discussions here irratates so much. I donīt like people who like to complain all the time.

I think he also said if the member just like Sonic Youth it isnīt enough here. I think it is the only reason to be here, isnīt this Sonic Youth Gossib? I have been wondering why some people are here when they havenīt liked Sonic Youth for years. If the reason isnīt they want to play sick social games, tell me what it is?
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Old 12.30.2011, 01:50 AM   #78
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Old 12.30.2011, 01:55 AM   #79
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lol.

I agree w you on Kanye though. Anyone who says he is not ridiculously talented hasn't paid enough attention.

talented or not kanye bores the fuck out of me
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