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Old 03.15.2012, 06:25 AM   #161
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I love the album and glad he didn't make a sy sounding album or a singer-songwriter one.
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Old 03.15.2012, 07:50 AM   #162
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It's a folly to think of "Thurston/Kim/Lee songs" in the context of the band. The lyrics are theirs but the music is truly collaborative. It's not a situation comparable to that of the Beatles, where you can say comfortably, "That's a John/Paul, John, Paul or George song." With SY, it's "that's a song where Lee's on lead vocals" and etc.

Take "Karenology." Lee wrote the lyrics, sings on the track, but the musical track wasn't even his to sing over originally--it had been given to Kim, and Lee had what would become "Sympathy for the Strawberry." Thankfully
they switched.

There are undeniable SY-ish elements because, well, he was (is?) a member of the band. But none of Thurston's 3 "song-based" solos sound like Sonic Youth ("Psychic Hearts" sounds frequently like great Thurston songs that the band could have worked with and made even greater, though). Free Kitten is its own special beast as well. So why would Lee's solo be full of "Eric's Trip"s and "Mote"s?
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Old 03.15.2012, 03:15 PM   #164
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"This is the best SY-related project since at least Murray Street, and I don't really expect to hear a better rock album this year."

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Old 03.15.2012, 04:06 PM   #165
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To me it's even more than that for me. IMO, it's allready my favourite album since 10 years (sonic youth related and other band).
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Old 03.15.2012, 04:20 PM   #166
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I was skeptical after hearing off the wall, but so far I can't find a lot to complain about here. It's an extremely solid bunch if songs. Shouts appears to be the standout for me so far.
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Old 03.15.2012, 05:16 PM   #167
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It's a folly to think of "Thurston/Kim/Lee songs" in the context of the band. The lyrics are theirs but the music is truly collaborative. It's not a situation comparable to that of the Beatles, where you can say comfortably, "That's a John/Paul, John, Paul or George song." With SY, it's "that's a song where Lee's on lead vocals" and etc.

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Exactly.

I'm waiting til the album comes out next week.
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this album is pretty awesome.
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I really like this. picked it up on LP yesterday.
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does anyone know where the album cover was taken?
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I was bonkers excited at first, but now I'm skeptical. We do have our copy secured-- the vinyl-- and I haven't heard the whole album yet, but I haven't been truly 100% happy with any of the SY releases since they signed with Matador. Except SYR9... which was not on Matador.

Am I the only one who's like.... "Hey, where the fuck did Lee Ranaldo go?" I mean there's some nostalgic, noodly guitar work, sure, but this just doesn't sound right to me.

Neither did demolished thoughts come to think of it.
or the eternal.

Edit: I was being a complainy cunt here, admittedly. I do like all the records I mentioned here.

your not alone, i am not a fan of this direction either. its kind of a let down in some ways that both lee and thurston have gone in such tried and tested musical directions. even steve in dissapears is just more of the same.

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I agree that first impressions are different to a more considered opinion after giving the vinyl a few spins. I streamed the LP on Rolling Stone and to me it sounded a bit dad rock.
I think like many people I expected a bit more of an angular approach but it sounds very traditional. The fact the picked 'Off The Wall' as the first track is has wrong footed people as it does have a lot more SY in it than the majority of the album. The SY style of that track is I am sure why it was picked.
Some people seem under the impression that Lee tracks were shunned in the band and this album is an opportunity for him to free himself of those shackles.
Expecting an album of all new songs in the vein of all of the ones he has written through the years was always gonna end in tears.
I will get it anyway and judge it on its own merits outside of SY.
Maybe he needs the others to be SY Lee anyway?

I think itīs quite common when musician get older he makes more traditional style music. And I think thatīs ok as long as there is creativity in it and at least freshness. I can understand the young people whom the music is not the most important. Itīs more that musician can be sort of the object of identification. And then you donīt want to listen anything that reminds your dad. But to me music has always been the most important. When I was young, I listened for example Pink Floyd, Genesis and Yes (I was young in the eighties) and altough I liked the most of their seveties material, I also listened a lot their eighties material. And they were then at the age of my dad. There were only few years after that when I found punk and speed metal, but I still continued to listen prog along those new styles. So to me "dad rock" has never been problem.

I think it is very natural Thurston and Lee sound at the age of their own. I think it would be very unnatural if they will sound like they were still twenty years old. But in the other hand it donīt always mean you become serene when you get old. I was really suprised last year when I heard Nomeansno last album. I really wondered, how the men at the age of fifty could make so aggressive and rage music. But on the other hand if you compare their second album Sex Mad and that newest one, there is such maturity in the "All Roads Lead to Ausfahrt" that is not in the sex mad.

I am really irritated about the many people here seem to think getting old is the same getting boring.
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It's a folly to think of "Thurston/Kim/Lee songs" in the context of the band. The lyrics are theirs but the music is truly collaborative. It's not a situation comparable to that of the Beatles, where you can say comfortably, "That's a John/Paul, John, Paul or George song." With SY, it's "that's a song where Lee's on lead vocals" and etc.

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Totally agree! And I think in many bands collaborations create a lots of greater stuff than situations where one makes almost all. Thatīs why SY-records has been better than solos.
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With the current turbulent and possibly terminal times in the SY camp, it seems like a welcome respite in fortunes that their resident axe-mangler Lee Ranaldo already had this solo record in the bag before their majestic liner ran aground. As was the case with the recent Thurston Moore solo offering, Ranaldo has again opted for an accessible song-based approach to this record, ably helped by some of his talented friends including Steve Shelley on drums, Nels Cline on guitar, John Medeski on keys, and Jim O’Rourke makes an appearance too. The lyrical themes are largely based around nostalgia for adolescence and there’s a bit of a west coast ‘60s pop feel in some of the songs that’s nicely tempered by his alternate tuning guitar textures, which are still prominent. A lot of the time you basically feel like you’re listening to a collection of Ranaldo-fronted SY jams, and his voice is comfortingly familiar immediately. First time I listened to it, though, the vocal style did start to grate on me by the end...I’m on about my third go through it now, though, and I think I was on my man period or something because on their own merits every one of these songs is good, and there’s a continuity of churning momentum through the record that’s actually pretty delicious, even through the more downbeat numbers (which have a touch of Led Zeppelin influence to them in places if I’m not mistaken). There’s quite a nostalgic mid-’90s sound there that I like...it’s even reminding me a little of the Smashing Pumpkins in places, weirdly enough. I’m finding this to be a thoroughly enjoyable chunk of slightly psychedelic, slightly country, very Sonic Youthy power-pop with enough detailed and experimental textures running through its indie rock veins to make sure your attention never wavers. It’s precise and accomplished stuff, but with this type of music I can’t help but feel that Ranaldo’s melodic taste and dynamic restraint kind of work against him to some extent and it’d be nice to see a couple more massive choruses or infectious melodic hooks making an appearance. That’s subjective though, especially since he gives us exactly that in the likes of the staggeringly wonderful ‘Lost’, where the ‘60s pop influence jumps right to the front in an infectiously bouncy bit of pop music which then descends into this chorus of Chatham-esque chiming guitars that gradually get overtaken by squealing lead guitar and then we’re dropped right back into that summery chorus...it’s perfection, and a couple more brazenly, indulgently enjoyable jams like this would’ve been totally welcome, but still what Ranaldo has done here is to create a swirling, melodic, accessible collection of tracks, polished to post-grunge perfection by knob twiddler to the stars John Agnello and yet with an experimental streak running throughout them, which are all unmistakeably the work of Lee Ranaldo and couldn’t possibly have been made by anybody else. Isn’t that the essence of what all artists are trying to do?
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picked up my LP this morning....just got done spinning it...i like it more and more with every listen..only one thing i really don''t like about it...but i'm gonna wait and see if someone else mentions it before i complain.....though tuesday at work....me and a co-worker were listening to the last track streaming...a 60 yr old guy walked by and started singing " a hard days night" and it perfectly fit

had serious surgery wed and i'm kinda screwed up on painkillers...which is probably the only reason i'm even posting....before i listened to the LP i took a fan boy picture that i'm gonna try to throw here but as i said....i'm messed up...japanese version shipped already so i'm psyched

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