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Old 11.21.2010, 05:58 PM   #21
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Good man, I wouldn't know where to start.


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Old 11.21.2010, 06:27 PM   #22
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Yeah, I bet you Italians would love that wouldn't you, eh?
 

way to make me cry right before bedtime.........

back on topic: yeeeeeeh let's do it.
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Old 11.21.2010, 06:40 PM   #23
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Yeah, I'm definitely down for this. Don't have the time to make a video but I can definitely contributed some music.
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Old 11.21.2010, 06:56 PM   #24
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i'd like to do something but i'm shy
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Old 11.22.2010, 04:28 AM   #25
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i'd like to do something but i'm shy

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Old 11.22.2010, 04:29 AM   #26
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If the deadline was the end of January, would you be up to co-ordinate it with me? By physical format I
meant a small run of cds or cassettes after everything has been put online. Thank you for your AMAZING advice. Oh and also thank you for putting me in touch with Ed, he sent me a pm on facebook today with a link to the video for YOTL's 'Signal to Earth' that he directed. There's a problem with
a password at the moment, though, so I'll be able to watch it tomorrow. Can't wait.

Oh right, yeah small physical run would be better than OL version. I thought you meant in terms of sending the tracks.

So, basically, I'm busy until Dec 15th, but after that I'm pretty much free save for the jobhunt, so yeah. All systems go etc.
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Old 11.22.2010, 05:38 AM   #27
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It would be my pleasure. Let me know.

I'd be great at mastering it myself. The only downside to that is that I'd also lose the loudness war when it comes to tracks which I don't like, so that's why I am not bothered by it.
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The problem I'd have with a 'global master' for a compilation is that I really think tracks should be as loud as the person making it wants them to be. 'Loudness', in itself, isn't important; dynamics are. Or, to put it another way, I don't want any cunt fucking about with my music.
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Old 11.22.2010, 06:12 AM   #29
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The problem I'd have with a 'global master' for a compilation is that I really think tracks should be as loud as the person making it wants them to be. 'Loudness', in itself, isn't important; dynamics are. Or, to put it another way, I don't want any cunt fucking about with my music.

I wasn't being serious about the mastering. I don't care, it's only a compilation of people from here's music, not some sort of grand statement on production/mastering skills.
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Old 11.22.2010, 08:06 AM   #30
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The problem I'd have with a 'global master' for a compilation is that I really think tracks should be as loud as the person making it wants them to be. 'Loudness', in itself, isn't important; dynamics are. Or, to put it another way, I don't want any cunt fucking about with my music.

It is impossible to make the tracks "as loud as the person making it wants them" because everyone has their own volume knob on their stereo. Mastering will just make the album more consistent so the end user doesn't have to keep adjusting their volume knob between each track. I wouldn't actually change much about the audio content unless it was an extreme case and it was absolutely necessary.
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Old 11.22.2010, 08:08 AM   #31
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I wasn't being serious about the mastering. I don't care, it's only a compilation of people from here's music, not some sort of grand statement on production/mastering skills.

It isn't a statement about skills. It is simply making everyone's songs sound as good together as possible. If something like this is going to be done it might as well be done right.
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Old 11.22.2010, 08:16 AM   #32
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Regardless of who does the mastering this goes out to all those who want to submit tracks:

Submit in WAV format, with no effects placed on the master bus during mixdown, and have the levels peak at about -6dB.

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Old 11.22.2010, 08:25 AM   #33
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I'll contribute. I've been meaning to start some original work again.
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Old 11.22.2010, 08:28 AM   #34
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It is impossible to make the tracks "as loud as the person making it wants them" because everyone has their own volume knob on their stereo. Mastering will just make the album more consistent so the end user doesn't have to keep adjusting their volume knob between each track. I wouldn't actually change much about the audio content unless it was an extreme case and it was absolutely necessary.

Well, this is the bare bones of the disagreement - if I do something incredibly quiet (which is likely) or with a big dynamic range (which is possible) or something that's ranted to fuck (also likely) I don't really want it adulterated because someone else has recorded something very flat with minimal dynamic range. What I'm cautious about is that I'll probably do something electro-acoustic, while I imagine there'll be a lot of guitar-based things, which requires a very different approach, mastering-wise; I know there a few people who might do dance-based stuff (Shabbers, SYR Fox) which, again, I wouldn't want compromised because most people are doing rock music.

Essentially, I'm interested in a good, diverse mix of music - if you're moving everything towards the middle ground just for the sake of consistency then you threaten to undermine those at the perimeters - at one end, harsh noise, at the other, lower-case EAI. I'm not saying that mastering is entirely unnecessary, but I'd say a very softly-softly approach - that is, take out any peaks unless the person specifically requests they be left in (which I'd imagine the lo-fi and noise contingent would prefer). This has a few problems, obviously - I know people like Clone explicitly likes a very low mastering, and knox tends to keep things this side of quiet, and their tracks might not 'jump out', but I think it's more important to keep the integrity of the track and let the listener decide than it is to 'compromise their artistic vision'. Or, putting it another way - I've a suspicion that the more experienced musicians (Clone, Terminal Pharmacy etc) would happily chop off your hands if someone fucks about with their track. I'm in that same boat, but more because I'm awkward than experienced.
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Old 11.22.2010, 08:40 AM   #35
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Anyway, NOBODY IS MASTERING ANYTHING. Full stop. Let's not ruin the fun already eh?
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I'll contribute. I've been meaning to start some original work again.

I have your YLT cd on my desk. I just need to find a minute to pop into the mail room and send it to you.
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Old 11.22.2010, 09:04 AM   #37
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I would really like to get Ryan and myself involved in this. We have a drummer living with us now too. Our acoustic sound has been morphing into electric. I found all of my mom's old stage equipment mixers, her mic and some other shit. I will just have to see if he's up for it.
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I had a similar concept in mind for non-music-related "artists" on here (or mudicians who also dwell in visual stuff or writing), a sort of online fanzine with a 2 pages space to be filled by each contributor with wathever he/she wants to put in it...
perhaps it's a good time to bring this up "in public", even if I'm running a bit late with the actual work/layout for it....as somebody here already knows, heh!
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This idea is AWESOME too. You can count me in on this if it comes to fruition. I would definitly like to write something or some of my arty shit.
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Collab?

i'm afraid - what do you mean by collab?
sounds like some communist thing.

hevusa has to stop this bullshit otherwise nothing will work out.

(i already know what i'd like to do)
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This idea is AWESOME too. You can count me in on this if it comes to fruition. I would definitly like to write something or some of my arty shit.

Good, good!
I'll start a proper thread on this in a few days, so things won't get too mixed up in here (and this thread is kinda messy already).
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