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Old 11.09.2007, 07:40 PM   #1
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so i kinda get the hint that alot of people don't really like that album. i gotta say it's one of my favorites. to be honest i'm not really crazy about much stuff before EVOL, cept for the self titled record. i'm probably gonna get shit for that statement, but imma stand by it. so what do you kind sir's & ma'am's think?
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Old 11.10.2007, 12:51 AM   #2
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You'll find that most people on this board are Sonic Youth fans and love NYC G&F. It is certainly SY's worst selling Geffen album, and those sages at Pitchfork gave it one star, but if everybody "got" what Sonic Youth do, then it wouldn't be the world we live in. Perhaps it would be a better place, or maybe actually less interesting, I'm not sure.

I'd put NYC G&G tied with Washing Machine and Nurse for my fave Geffen albums. All three are among my all time favorites, though quite a few notches down from Bad Moon Rising, which is really the band's ultimate musical statement.
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Old 11.10.2007, 12:57 AM   #3
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You'll find that most people on this board are Sonic Youth fans and love NYC G&F. It is certainly SY's worst selling Geffen album, and those sages at Pitchfork gave it one star, but if everybody "got" what Sonic Youth do, then it wouldn't be the world we live in. Perhaps it would be a better place, or maybe actually less interesting, I'm not sure.

I'd put NYC G&G tied with Washing Machine and Nurse for my fave Geffen albums. All three are among my all time favorites, though quite a few notches down from Bad Moon Rising, which is really the band's ultimate musical statement.

Totally agreed (except that NYC Ghosts & Flowers is definitively my favorite Geffen album, also with Sonic Nurse, Washing Machine, and I'd had A Thousand Leaves too, but NYC G&F is far better in my opinion)
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Old 11.10.2007, 12:59 AM   #4
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Old 11.10.2007, 09:42 AM   #5
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I think almost everyone ranks it amongst their best "after-Goo" work
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Old 11.10.2007, 12:20 PM   #6
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I think almost everyone ranks it amongst their best "after-Goo" work

Everyone here anyway. It's also the album that most of the world just didn't notice. Even my wife was hitting me with the old, "They haven't done anything good in years" line until I made her actually listen to it, and now it's one of her all time favorites.
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Old 11.10.2007, 12:30 PM   #7
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yeah, sometimes it is my favourite album although it's far from perfect. i find small flowers crack concrete to be basically unlistenable.
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Old 11.10.2007, 12:56 PM   #8
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Old 11.10.2007, 01:33 PM   #9
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I think almost everyone ranks it amongst their best "after-Goo" work
wouldnt strictly agree on that point but i love nyc g&f. small flowers is a great song too. the only down point on the album i think is lightning.........
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Old 11.10.2007, 03:34 PM   #10
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i was disappointed with the finished product compared to the great early (bumbershoot/knitting factory) performances of the songs, i just couldn't believe they took such dark, broken songs and made them so .. futuristic. but years later i can appreciate that it's a good record. the best of their post-goo work? not by a loooooong shot.
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Old 11.10.2007, 03:39 PM   #11
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I can't stress enough how much I adore this album and NYC G&F (the song) live is the best thing I've ever seen live till now. ha!
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Old 11.10.2007, 04:17 PM   #12
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to be honest i'm not really crazy about much stuff before EVOL, cept for the self titled record. i'm probably gonna get shit for that statement, but imma stand by it.

You're not alone (I'm not a big a fan of Confusion is sex/Kill your idols and Bad moon rising while I really like the S/T).
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Old 11.10.2007, 04:21 PM   #13
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Regarding NYCG&F the album I hated at first (except for the title track). I should give it new listens (as I haven't listened to the album enough for it to grow on me).
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Old 11.10.2007, 04:24 PM   #14
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those sages at Pitchfork gave it one star

They gave it a zero , and to be honest after my first listen I would nearly have agreed with them...
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Old 11.10.2007, 05:41 PM   #15
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When did I say it was their best work after Goo? I said it was AMONGST their best. As in, a group of albums that are really great that it happens to be apart of. A Thousand Leaves has it beaten! That album is their crowning achievement of the past decade and a half.
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Old 11.10.2007, 07:33 PM   #16
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see, and its only lately that i've been able to appreciate 'a thousand leaves' despite all of the ways they fucked up the songs in the studio vs the fantaaastic live versions. maybe one of the reasons i liked 'nurse' so much is cuz i stayed away from live versions of the songs prior to its release, and effectively had a whole new album the day it arrived on my doorstep.

at least they got it right w/ 'murray street'. hopefully one day they finish that album!
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Old 11.10.2007, 07:55 PM   #17
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huh... and i was under the impression that nobody really liked this album. well fucking a!
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Old 11.10.2007, 08:05 PM   #18
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huh... and i was under the impression that nobody really liked this album. well fucking a!

I think the title track is Lee's crowning achievement in the band.
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Old 11.10.2007, 08:20 PM   #19
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i think it's a tie between nyc ghosts & flowers and mote... then again lee can do no wrong in my book, i always whish he'd have more songs on their albums.
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Old 11.10.2007, 08:25 PM   #20
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on the old board, nyc ghosts and flowers the song won "Best sonic youth song of all time"...
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