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Old 05.18.2015, 04:38 PM   #801
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I think there is still enough the viewer can ponder in the final episode. Did Don become the type of person he seemed to despise in the earlier seasons? He was very critical of the counter-culture/hippie people he met throughout the series. He seemed to find that utopia idealism a fantasy. Did he become a version of Steve Jobs? He also didn't believe in only aiming marketing to the teenager/20-something year-old, but that Coke commercial embodies the hippiedom/counter-culture younger generation audience he seemed to always have disdain for.

That Coke commercial was the first and biggest shot across the bow of the counterculture, appropriating the 60's counterculture inclusionism and peace and love mentality to sell SHIT. and it ran for 26 years.

It meant that Don (generic ad man) Draper will and does use anything and everything that happens to him to lie to people so they buy product.
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That Coke commercial was the first and biggest shot across the bow of the counterculture, appropriating the 60's counterculture inclusionism and peace and love mentality to sell SHIT. and it ran for 26 years.

It meant that Don (generic ad man) Draper will and does use anything and everything that happens to him to lie to people so they buy product.
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Old 05.18.2015, 06:11 PM   #803
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I feel Don's end point was the least interesting. Pete, Peggy, Roger, and Joan's end points were joyful, and Betty & the kids were desolate yet captivating with the changing of the arms with Sally's rise to the mother figure. Don's ending would have more engaging if it came to a untimely end, or something more climatic.
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Old 05.18.2015, 06:27 PM   #804
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I've never watched Mad Men, and I probably never will but can someone sum up in a nutshell what makes a TV series about bunch of people working in something as tacky as advertising worthy of such a devoted audience?
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Old 05.18.2015, 06:48 PM   #805
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Old 05.18.2015, 07:10 PM   #806
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I've never watched Mad Men, and I probably never will but can someone sum up in a nutshell what makes a TV series about bunch of people working in something as tacky as advertising worthy of such a devoted audience?

John Hamm. One of the sexiest humans to walk the earth.

Christina Hendricks. The Greeks and other ancient civilizations craved in stone because of women like her.

And

Acting. Unknown (relatively) actors that are even more talented than that of highest calibre HBO show, or superstar Hollywood red carpet. These men and women craft a story that is heartfelt and addicting.

If you're some plot junkie looking of robots/explosions, or some cheesy Marvel story, look elsewhere.
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Old 05.18.2015, 07:49 PM   #808
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I know, because why ever consider anything, a book, a movie, a work of art, music, a television show, worth your while if its subject is something you'd find disagreeable?

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Old 05.18.2015, 08:20 PM   #809
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While i agree with your point in general gmku i also have not watched a single episode of Mad Men because of its topic. Same reason i never watched Breaking Bad..

I love to read "different" novels, id possibly even read a novel about tv marketing or meth dealong but i had and have zero desire to watch it.

Now i must be off to watch Girl Meets World

(Sighs, NBA playoffs aren't back till tomorrow)
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Old 05.19.2015, 06:08 AM   #810
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I have no problem with that. BUt T&B mplied that something was wrong with a whole audience for watching a show that he personally did not like. A whole other thing than simply expressing a personal dislike.
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Old 05.19.2015, 08:06 AM   #811
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I've never watched Mad Men, and I probably never will but can someone sum up in a nutshell what makes a TV series about bunch of people working in something as tacky as advertising worthy of such a devoted audience?

when you descrfibe ANY TV show in one sentence it sounds like shit

it is a show about life, like any other good one.
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Old 05.19.2015, 08:24 AM   #814
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watched Game of Thrones latest. lots of people talkl about how horrible Sansa's wedding night rape was but they fail to consider that many, if not most, women who were married off in the last 1000 years or more were raped this way on their wedding night. fucking horrible. I am glad we live when we live.
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Old 05.19.2015, 11:24 AM   #815
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Bob Dylan is playing Letterman tonight!

For those who missed it last night, Eddie Vedder along with Paul Shaffer and the CBS Orchestra knocked, "Better Man" out of the park!

Now that most TV shows are coming to their Season's end......what good shows are starting this summer?
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Old 05.19.2015, 04:00 PM   #816
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T&B mplied that something was wrong with a whole audience for watching a show that he personally did not like.

That's not what I meant to do. I was saying that what I hear about the show's concept (a bunch of 60s alpha male advertising executives smoking cigarettes and cheating on their wives) sounds pretty unappealing to me, however Mad Men gets a lot of respect. So, I was wondering if someone could say something brief and insightful about it that might help me understand why so many people like it and that might make it appealing. Something beyond the inane drivel the person said about the great acting, hot actors and it's not about superheros. Seriously what successful drama of the last 20 years doesn't have very attractive people who are very good at acting?
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Old 05.19.2015, 04:01 PM   #817
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it is a show about life, like any other good one.

what sets it apart?
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Old 05.19.2015, 04:03 PM   #818
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I know, because why ever consider anything, a book, a movie, a work of art, music, a television show, worth your while if its subject is something you'd find disagreeable?

There isn't time to watch/read/listen/visit/etc everything that is considered great, you've got to have some kind of filter.
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Old 05.19.2015, 04:13 PM   #819
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what sets it apart?

I am not a HUGE fan, but I have enjoyed about 70% of it as I watched with my wife.

I think what sets it apart is that it explores the workplace in both nostalgic and critical ways. I think people like shows that trans;port them to a shared past, even if it is a very exclusive, boys-club, segregated, and inherently racist and sexist past.

I would not rank it on the top ten TV dramas of all time though. Like all advertising, it is a cloud of lies and misdirection disguised as solid truth, or a solid truth disguised by a cloud of lies and misdirection.
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There isn't time to watch/read/listen/visit/etc everything that is considered great, you've got to have some kind of filter.

that is TRUE. some things may be "great" but my mind does not give a fuck to find out, because I am deeply involved with other "great" things. Life is too too short to try and absorb everything.
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