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Old 05.21.2010, 02:55 PM   #81
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did you know that you're only supposed to eat 8 regular strawberries a year because of how much pesticide they use on them?? .

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Old 05.23.2010, 05:33 PM   #83
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Fucking dickhead idiots. At least Schwarzenegger isn't supporting further oil drilling because of this.

I have been surprised with with The Governator, he has been relatively moderate, even productive!

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some people are saying this could change the viscosity of the ocean and trigger a new Ice Age.

I'm thinking that all that oil on the surface will change evaporation rates and drastically change weather patterns.

Who knows what those thousands of gallons of chemicals BP is spraying will do in the long run.

Oh well, the media will find another celebrity sex scandal to discuss.

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This is one of the most devestating (sp?) events i've ever heard. I could feel my heart drop in my chest... I want to volunteer, but I don't even know what I could do.





all exaggerations, this is hardly the level of environmental disaster that the media has been hyping it to be.. the man-made famines of Kenya and Ethiopia are far more of an ecological and human catastrophe then this BP thing...

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uhh, yeah they been rushing right on it haven't they, one of the wealthiest companies in the history of business sure are throwing all their efforts, BP sounds like the Phoenix Suns' coach throwing up his hands about how to take out the Lakers
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I think it's naturally, humanistically vain to assume that we, as humans are in control of the earths well being. Certainly, we should act with haste, cap the leak and contain what can be contained.... but aside from that... this is nothing more than a self righteous spludge fest for many people of dwindling importance. People that are always on a crusade that humans control the fate of the world and feel needed and important to overreact to occasions like this.


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I declare, we are not going to ruin this planet, it's more powerful than all the humans can effect. Sure, we can compromise our own lifestyles and ruin ours and others species, we can disease anything.... but the earth can and will mend itself with no conscious and us long forgotten.
I think you misunderstand everyone's concern, obviously humans have no invested interest in what happens to the earth beyond our survival, but duh, whether or no the earth could survive humans is irrelevant to humans if we humans are extinct. when we die off, the earth becomes nothing to us, and it is pointless to argue about it. In the meantime, our efforts are an ecological and human holocaust, and if we expect to survive we need to make some serious adjustments to our lifestyles


while I agree that the have been largely overreacting to the degree of this problem, none the less I think the only self-righteous tirade on this thread has been you, and I am not just trying to pick on you, its truly nothing personal..

humans are destroying the earth, it will survive, but the ecosystems are hugely affected by our industrial and agricultural activities, from primitive rural communities slash and burning up good land, or bloodthirsty heartless multinational corporations raping up our resources leaving toxic swamps out of Venezuela or Nigeria...

humans are going in the wrong direction, and we will not survive ourselves.
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Old 05.23.2010, 05:42 PM   #84
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I think you misunderstand everyone's concern, obviously humans have no invested interest in what happens to the earth beyond our survival, but duh, whether or no the earth could survive humans is irrelevant to humans if we humans are extinct. when we die off, the earth becomes nothing to us, and it is pointless to argue about it. In the meantime, our efforts are an ecological and human holocaust, and if we expect to survive we need to make some serious adjustments to our lifestyles

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One of my best friends works for BP here in GB. Ive not spoken to him since this happened, he might be in hiding organising his family onto the pods that will escape this planet.
Oil is obsolete, im 100% in favour of nuclear power whilst we make solar and wind energy usable. But we cant go on relying on the dead organisms of the last few millennia.
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One of my best friends works for BP here in GB. Ive not spoken to him since this happened, he might be in hiding organising his family onto the pods that will escape this planet.
Oil is obsolete, im 100% in favour of nuclear power whilst we make solar and wind energy usable. But we cant go on relying on the dead organisms of the last few millennia.


We really shouldn't be using oil anymore because of pollution etc. But also, who knows what will happen in the future? We may have to start using it again and the more oil we leave now the better.
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We really shouldn't be using oil anymore because of pollution etc. But also, who knows what will happen in the future? We may have to start using it again and the more oil we leave now the better.

Indeed, i dont discount that arguement.
But its this massively important issue that we are all in the dark about because the corporations have a total interest in protecting the truth.
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Oh yeah of course, leaving some oil for the future is hardly the best argument for us to stop using oil and its definitely low down the list of problems associated with the oil industry.
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this is hardly the level of environmental disaster that the media has been hyping it to be.. the man-made famines of Kenya and Ethiopia are far more of an ecological and human catastrophe then this BP thing...

the media isn't hyping this disaster - they're barely reporting it. Hate to tell you podnuh but the oil is still coming out and we really don't know how much 100,000 barrels a day? I bet minute for minute Lindsay Lohan is getting as much air time or Brittany Murphy's husband.
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The Gulf of Mexico is a very shallow gulf, andthe entire thing is a giant shrimp and oyster fest. this petroleum will cause untold havok on the sea bed, whether from the oil itself, or the oil blocking out the sunlight as it floats on the surface. It has been a month now, of tens of thousands of barrells a day being leaked into the Gulf.
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Some of BPs chemical dispersants contain 2-butoxyethanol,

http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-2_Butoxyethanol-9923187

FUCK THAT. I also have a hard time believing that's the worst thing to be worried about in the oil spill. The amount of gnarly shit that's been taken out of gas in the past is ridiculous and we just replace benzene with something that hasn't SHOWN to be cancerous yet.

The oil spill is fucking horrendous. There's no sense in me even saying any more. The mentally inefficient will remain ignorant.

Just remember, ignoring reality is A LOT more difficult than accepting that we are, in fact, a fucking plague. Humans are inconsiderate parasites with no concern for our host. We'll see how things turn out when our host dies.
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the media isn't hyping this disaster - they're barely reporting it. Hate to tell you podnuh but the oil is still coming out and we really don't know how much 100,000 barrels a day? I bet minute for minute Lindsay Lohan is getting as much air time or Brittany Murphy's husband.
ummm.. playboy I watch and read a ridiculous amount of news and this oil spill is all over the place, even though surprisingly for the scale of the leak, the after affects have not been as visible as they were say in Exxon Valdeez incident.. after all, this is not heavy crude oil, much of it actually evaporates.

I am not arguing that this is not an immense and even horrifying natural disasster, but truthfully it is hardly the level of disaster that this thread and the media have been suggesting.

In Kenya and Ethiopia, poor irrigigation and farming practices, exporting food crops to the Saudis has resulted in well over 10 million people and countless animals living in absolute privation... I just don't see that in the Gulf right now..
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The Gulf of Mexico is a very shallow gulf..

It has been a month now, of tens of thousands of barrells a day being leaked into the Gulf.

a) explain the 5000 foot depth of that well?

b) exactly, its been a MONTH and yet we STILL don't have massive oil slicks in the Gulf state coasts..
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In Kenya and Ethiopia, poor irrigigation and farming practices, exporting food crops to the Saudis has resulted in well over 10 million people and countless animals living in absolute privation... I just don't see that in the Gulf right now..
wrong gulf - this is the Gulf of Mexico, not Gulf of Aden. Not sure why you are arguing so hard against this being a disaster.

b) exactly, its been a MONTH and yet we STILL don't have massive oil slicks in the Gulf state coasts..[/quote]
The Gulf does have massive oil slicks, maybe if the media was covering this in proportion to the disaster it is you would have seen some. I have and I don't even watch TV.
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check out the sattelite imagery. much of the Gulf of Mexico is very shallow. the petroleum is heading to ever shallower areas, the oyster and shrimp beds.
 



what is happening in kenya and Ethiopia is the result of corrupt individuals in their governments. what is happening in the Gulf is the result of an accident by a multi-national corporation (but based in UK) that they had no plan or even idea on how to fix should such an accident occurr.

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