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Old 12.11.2013, 09:42 PM   #81
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Old 02.10.2014, 03:15 PM   #82
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new Harvard study, yes you are drinking this most likely

The average loss in IQ was reported as a standardized weighted mean difference of 0.45, which would be approximately equivalent to seven IQ points for commonly used IQ scores with a standard deviation of 15. Some studies suggested that even slightly increased fluoride exposure could be toxic to the brain. Thus, children in high-fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ scores than those who lived in low-fluoride areas. The children studied were up to 14 years of age, but the investigators speculate that any toxic effect on brain development may have happened earlier, and that the brain may not be fully capable of compensating for the toxicity.“Fluoride seems to fit in with lead, mercury, and other poisons that cause chemical brain drain,” Grandjean says. “The effect of each toxicant may seem small, but the combined damage on a population scale can be serious, especially because the brain power of the next generation is crucial to all of us.”
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Old 02.10.2014, 03:33 PM   #83
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"New"?

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/fea...randjean-choi/

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yes you are drinking this most likely

Yes, if you live in those areas in China where 25 out of 27 studies where conducted, still not so sure (at least, the authors were not so sure at the time) results could be applied to typical risk of exposure in the US.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/fil...12-Revised.pdf
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Old 03.05.2014, 05:46 PM   #84
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But its safe, right? from the MSDS:

Corrosive. Harmful or fatal if swallowed. May cause
severe irritation and burns of the mouth, throat and
digestive tract.

add it to your drinking water, its safe.
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The realer question to ask is, "Are Americas becoming stupider for drinking fluoride in the drinking water or were Americans already just that stupid to begin with hence putting the shit in drinking water?"
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But its safe, right? from the MSDS:

Corrosive. Harmful or fatal if swallowed. May cause
severe irritation and burns of the mouth, throat and
digestive tract.

add it to your drinking water, its safe.

That's the description for Hydrofluosilicic Acid, not fluoride.

Flouride is actually a weak base, not an acid.

So, now you're also worried people will melt while drinking water because the acid dissolved in it is originally corrosive?
Should we ask a moderator to change the thread's title?

Ever read the MSDS for Ethanol?
Is it "safe" by your standards?
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Old 05.23.2014, 10:48 AM   #88
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some more current science for you, not shit from 1945

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Since 2006, epidemiological studies have documented six additional developmental neurotoxicants—manganese, fluoride, chlorpyrifos, dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, tetrachloroethylene, and the polybrominated diphenyl ethers"
Neurobehavioural effects of developmental toxicity

Dr Philippe Grandjean MD a

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...278-3/fulltext

Summary

Neurodevelopmental disabilities, including autism, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, dyslexia, and other cognitive impairments, affect millions of children worldwide, and some diagnoses seem to be increasing in frequency. Industrial chemicals that injure the developing brain are among the known causes for this rise in prevalence. In 2006, we did a systematic review and identified five industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxicants: lead, methylmercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, arsenic, and toluene. Since 2006, epidemiological studies have documented six additional developmental neurotoxicants—manganese, fluoride, chlorpyrifos, dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, tetrachloroethylene, and the polybrominated diphenyl ethers. We postulate that even more neurotoxicants remain undiscovered. To control the pandemic of developmental neurotoxicity, we propose a global prevention strategy. Untested chemicals should not be presumed to be safe to brain development, and chemicals in existing use and all new chemicals must therefore be tested for developmental neurotoxicity. To coordinate these efforts and to accelerate translation of science into prevention, we propose the urgent formation of a new international clearinghouse.
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Old 05.24.2014, 09:11 AM   #89
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Lol. Did you pay the few dollars to read the thing? That's a SUMMARY with absolutely ZERO relevant data in it.

With no infos on figures, kinds of test, etc.

(Leaving aside the fact that the guy says "they" identified 5 industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxicants, while other undetermined people found 6 more with fluoride among those).


See, manganese is on that list.
You, as all humans do, have manganese in your own bones. In your kidneys. In your liver. In your pancreas too. Let's ban bones. Your own bones are bad for your health.

Makes sense ? No.
Because danger comes in when specific tresholds are reached. CAN fluoride be dangerous? Sure. In certain amounts (sadly for you, not the ones in us water supplies etc.). Same as all freaking substances with some effect on human bodies.

You can die if you drink too much (non fluoridated,too) water. Let's ban water altogether, so fluoridated water won't be a problem anymore.

Last post in here, too boring, have fun with your useless links with no actual data/infos.
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nicfit just nailed it.

i tried to tell tesla the same thing before, but he will never, ever understand that substances can be both necessary for the body yet still toxic in at a certain dose. never. never never never never never.

he wont acknowledge that we've told him this, and he'll make the same mistake in another post eventually.
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Science says flouride is a developmental neurotoxin. So why do the "authorities" and "experts" continue to toxify our drinking water?

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/la...article_upsell

In 2006, we did a systematic review and identified five industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxicants: lead, methylmercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, arsenic, and toluene. Since 2006, epidemiological studies have documented six additional developmental neurotoxicants—manganese, fluoride, chlorpyrifos, dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, tetrachloroethylene, and the polybrominated diphenyl ethers. We postulate that even more neurotoxicants remain undiscovered.
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That's the description for Hydrofluosilicic Acid, not fluoride.

Well, that is what they are putting in the water
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The research team studied participants from Mexico’s Early Life Exposures in Mexico to Environmental Toxicants (ELEMENT) project by measuring the amount of fluoride present in the mothers’ urine during pregnancy and again when their children were 6 to 12 years old. The researchers found that higher prenatal fluoride exposure was associated with lower scores on tests for cognitive function at age four and between ages six and twelve. The researchers acknowledge that their results are “somewhat consistent” with past ecological studies which indicate children living in areas of high fluoride exposure have lower IQ scores than those in low-exposure areas.

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