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Old 10.23.2009, 04:37 AM   #21
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Sean has some lame alt rock stuff, but he also has some very good stuff with Yoko and Ima. Julian just sounds like the lite beer version of "Mind Games" era John, which is of course sad.
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Old 10.23.2009, 04:51 AM   #22
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the beatles killed yoko ono

Did you read the William Bennet epiphany in the Wire recently? He said something similar.
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Old 10.23.2009, 05:02 AM   #23
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Did you read the William Bennet epiphany in the Wire recently? He said something similar.

No - could we have a link?
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Old 10.23.2009, 05:30 AM   #24
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It's November 09's copy. It has Julian Cope on the cover. We'll call this an exercise in 'how they lived in the 90s'.

Page 71. It's actually 'the Inner Sleeve', not an epiphany.
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Old 10.23.2009, 05:31 AM   #25
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Ha ha! Fair enough!
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Old 10.23.2009, 05:39 AM   #26
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I haven't bought The Wire in a long time, but I have picked up the J.Cope issue in a book shop recently, and flicked through its pages briefly. What does William Bennett say about The Beatles/Yoko Ono?
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Old 10.23.2009, 06:23 AM   #27
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He's talking about Yoko Ono's Fly, and says the following:

"Many commentators and fans used to say that Yoko was the cause of the [sic] The Beatles' break-up - yet to me, it was the other way round: The Beatles were the worst thing that could have happened to her (or at least her art). She remains one ofmy favourite and, seminally, most influential artists."

It's not really that great an article (Bennett may well be the dullest man alive) but your post reminded me of it.
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Old 10.23.2009, 06:41 AM   #28
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Yeah, his movie reviews are too often a snorefest.
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Old 10.23.2009, 12:44 PM   #29
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I havent listened to enough of their music, but the gist I get is yeah, Julian has alot of cheesey synth bullshit with cheesy bullshit hooks. Sean tries to be more artistic with it but either fails or tries to hard.

Eitherway, neither of them will EVER write a song like Mother. John confronted his darkest demons in song, the other two act like their father was never murdered...from what I see at least.

They are chickenshit artists...

Im going to listen to plastic ono band right now actually....

What happened to that "favorite scream" thread...

I forgot to put John Lennon's screams at the end of Mother...

Mommy dont GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DDAAAAAAAADy come hooome
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Old 10.23.2009, 01:44 PM   #30
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partially unrelated, but i bought yoko's season of glass the other day-- sweetly preserved LP from 1981 -- it's good!
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Old 10.23.2009, 02:31 PM   #31
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I sometimes try to read the wire but it all sounds so wanky.?

maybe i really should, so i could sound like that myself.
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Old 10.23.2009, 02:33 PM   #32
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sadly, I'm not familiar with either one....

are they like the Marley kids with their music careers?
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Old 10.23.2009, 02:34 PM   #33
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I havent listened to enough of their music, but the gist I get is yeah, Julian has alot of cheesey synth bullshit with cheesy bullshit hooks. Sean tries to be more artistic with it but either fails or tries to hard.

Eitherway, neither of them will EVER write a song like Mother. John confronted his darkest demons in song, the other two act like their father was never murdered...from what I see at least.

They are chickenshit artists...

Im going to listen to plastic ono band right now actually....

What happened to that "favorite scream" thread...

I forgot to put John Lennon's screams at the end of Mother...

Mommy dont GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DDAAAAAAAADy come hooome

well there is a song sean wrote called 1st hamburger or something like that - im not a fan mind you (but its not a bad song) - but he said in an interview it was about how his father had this macrobiotic diet and when he finally accepted his father was dead he decided to have a burger as a symbolic act or something, i dont even have a point but to say that at least sean seems to have written one song about his fathers death?
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Old 10.23.2009, 03:27 PM   #34
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I sometimes try to read the wire but it all sounds so wanky.?

maybe i really should, so i could sound like that myself.

I think the Wire is pretty important as probably the biggest print-based (or media in general) outlet for a broad range of... certain music. A lot of people (many of whom are posting here) don't need it because they supplement their musical diet with forums, blogs and so on. But in terms of a one-stop-shop of faintly experimental music written about in a (sometimes overbearingly) serious fashion, it's pretty important. The problem comes in that it takes a while to decode the writers' peccadilloes, and they're still as faddy as anywhere else (Dubstep has really usurped the much less smartarse-friendly Grime as the dance genre of choice, and there's masses of dance music they just outright ignore).
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Old 10.23.2009, 03:37 PM   #35
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I just said mean that sometimes I just wanna read about music, not poetic descriptions of this and that but it´s cool I like it ok, I have a lot of them.
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Old 10.23.2009, 03:51 PM   #36
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Yeah, fair shout. Not to, like, internetdisagree or some shit, but if I had a criticism of the Wire it's that it's incredibly dry and faux-academic in tone. Loose lips sink ships was the florid one (mercifully, it died).
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Old 10.23.2009, 03:54 PM   #37
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that's sort of what i wanted to say but not as nice as you.
sure, part of me would love to be a rich cunt attending gigs daily and then writing reviews about them on my blogs with my art school friends.
actually no, i guess part of me wouldn´t.
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well there is a song sean wrote called 1st hamburger or something like that - im not a fan mind you (but its not a bad song) - but he said in an interview it was about how his father had this macrobiotic diet and when he finally accepted his father was dead he decided to have a burger as a symbolic act or something, i dont even have a point but to say that at least sean seems to have written one song about his fathers death?

No no, thanks. I didn't know. I've just not heard anything by them to make me a fan, and just assumed they never wrote anything because I hadnt heard anything and Im a huge John fan.

At least now I know, and I'll check it out.
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Old 10.23.2009, 07:17 PM   #39
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sway. yoko cannot be boring. you are mistaken.
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Old 10.23.2009, 07:27 PM   #40
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I'm going to say Sean, just because I hate those glasses.

Like, "Errr, I'm going to try to look as much like my father as possible so people will like me in some sick twisted way."
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