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Old 06.17.2009, 10:19 PM   #81
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jeez getting a fuckin' grip. "oh no! Sonic Youth shouldn't have a signature guitar since everyone who picks one up isn't going to be Lou Reed!"

I laughed out loud. Fuck that's good.
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Old 06.17.2009, 11:50 PM   #82
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And here I was thinking everybody wanted to be a singer like Lou Reed... Thanks for the mislead information Black Francis.

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Old 06.17.2009, 11:53 PM   #83
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Old 06.18.2009, 11:44 AM   #84
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jeez getting a fuckin' grip. "oh no! Sonic Youth shouldn't have a signature guitar since everyone who picks one up isn't going to be Lou Reed!"

yea because i think the signature guitars should be super secret and only lou reed fans should pick it up. thats a good idea
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Old 06.25.2009, 03:37 PM   #85
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any clue which issue of Filter magazine the zine will be included in? the whole thing should be going into the guitar/gear/tuning archive thingy i say!
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Old 06.26.2009, 12:42 AM   #86
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i'll do my best! there may be some objection as it is a supplemental reward for purchasing a $1000+ guitar, but i'll definitely get as much of it incorporated as possible...
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Old 06.26.2009, 09:44 AM   #87
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man, those axes look good!

okay, i see where the thread is going, T & L started off with cheap guitars and a heavy DIY ethic.. but they surely deserve the recognition for pioneering their own sound.. and this is exactly what this is: paying tribute..
my first guitar was a gift, and i smashed it because i didn't have patience to learn it.
my second guitar, i found it at my father's yard.. someone had just left it there and it was terribly messed up..
as i started playing i got my first "decent" guitar, which cost me somewhere around 250 dollars..
i don't know anything about modifications, but i do own 2 pairs of drumsticks - and guess where that idea came from?

so - the short story is, cheap guitars are always available.. having a cheap guitar should not ruin your fun.. if you got the money, you can spend it as you wish..
i'm planning to buy them both, once i get rich..
and i'll use the stickers on my other guitars and spray paint the crap out of them and hammer some nails into them or something..

in the meantime, i'll be envious of those guitars as i am of telecasters, and i'll be distorting the sound of my cheap and lovely guitar with random pedals and whatever i can get my hands on.....
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Old 06.27.2009, 12:46 AM   #88
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The kind of people SY attract are more interested in finding their own voice on the guitar and/or customizing guitars themselves, not buying stuff so they can "be just like their heroes"...

Although, the Lee guitar is kinda cool...with only 21 frets, it's no good for me as a player, but I'd get one just to support the band. I can't see spending more than I paid for the guitars I actually play to buy something I'm just gonna hang on the wall, though...

I'm all for SY getting more publicity (I was happy to hear about Kool Thing being in Guitar Hero III, even though I hate Guitar Hero...never knew Teenage Riot was in Rock Band), but this...no.


My sentiments as well. I don't think it's a bad idea though, for either Fender of SY, but in general, finding your own sound is the idea. Aside from the projected response from SY fans/players, there's just as good a chance that these will get interest just for being great models as well.

I am happy for Thurston and Lee though and mega props for Fender to acknowledge them as iconic players. Of course there's so much more to their sound than guitars, but the last thing I'd want is a wave of bands attempting to sound like SY with new guitars.

J Mascis' sig. Jazzmaster sells for about $1270.00. So maybe the SY one's will sell for about that.

I noticed that Thurston was using his new signature model on the Fallon show performance. I don't remember Lee's, but it sticks out that Thurston was using his. I wonder if they'll play with those on this and all future shows / tours? Wonder if they're obligated too?

All and all though, for sure these are going to be some great sounding and playing guitars!
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Old 06.28.2009, 08:15 AM   #89
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They started out with unfashionable, cheap guitars, which have now become cool and valuable... So like the Jazzmasters of the future will be, what, Yamaha Pacificas?
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Old 06.28.2009, 02:29 PM   #90
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They started out with unfashionable, cheap guitars, which have now become cool and valuable... So like the Jazzmasters of the future will be, what, Yamaha Pacificas?

No, because the Jazzmasters of the 50s/60s/70s were well-built instruments made in the USA when Fender actually cared about quality, not cheap Asian superstrat knockoffs.

A few smaller builders have "economy" models in the sub-$1000 range, but for the most part, an American built guitar is going to be $1000+...I blame the unions...
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Old 06.28.2009, 02:35 PM   #91
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They started out with unfashionable, cheap guitars, which have now become cool and valuable... So like the Jazzmasters of the future will be, what, Yamaha Pacificas?
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Old 06.28.2009, 03:09 PM   #92
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thanks for the tip esd.

i can't wait until 2014 when you guys are bidding grand$ on my pacifica auctions
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Old 06.29.2009, 02:09 AM   #93
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not even kim could make a pacifica look cool!

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Old 06.29.2009, 05:19 PM   #94
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an American built guitar is going to be $1000+...I blame the unions...

Hey GeneticKiss, care to elaborate on that?...
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Hey GeneticKiss, care to elaborate on that?...

There was once a time where employers could get away with paying employees as little as they could and treat them like shit. So unions were formed to give employees a stronger voice in how things go.

Nowdays, there are laws and numerous organizations that make sure employees are paid well and treated fairly. But unions still exist, and they've gotten greedy. Whenever they don't feel like they're being paid enough (i.e. they just want more money), they go on strike. So to avoid this, employers pay them probably more than what they're worth, and the cost of labor keeps going higher and higher, and thus the price of goods goes higher and higher every year as well.
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Old 06.29.2009, 10:48 PM   #96
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would make a better guitar than that pacifica. really.
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Old 06.30.2009, 02:47 AM   #97
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here in europe they are 1890 EUR each. which is like $2700.
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Old 06.30.2009, 03:29 AM   #98
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Old 06.30.2009, 03:58 AM   #99
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unfortunately my messages get lost when i put links here. but, ... woodbrass . com offers those guitars. just search for thurston or ranaldo. ... there are some more online stores you can find via google. prices range between 1850 and 2000 Euros.
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