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Old 06.12.2009, 12:56 PM   #21
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Old 06.12.2009, 01:00 PM   #22
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Why the fuck did I have to buy the Mascis Jazz last year?

cuz you made a silly decision, why do you have to buy any of these cheesy, mass-produced, over-priced for the low end model, signature guitars? Signature shit is for skate shoes and writing checks..

 


by the way, these were the best shoes I ever owned, and I sure wish i could find a pair but i'd need the way back machine..
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This makes me sad. Because I know they're going to be so much money and I'll never have one. And ironically, the "signature" of the Lee and T's guitars from the getgo, was to buy the cheapest guitars that no-one else even wanted.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to noisereductions again.
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Old 06.12.2009, 01:28 PM   #23
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Well, the Les Paul is a signature guitar if you think about it. I'm perfectly OK with it.
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Old 06.12.2009, 01:59 PM   #24
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Well, the Les Paul is a signature guitar if you think about it. I'm perfectly OK with it.

no, not in this context. the post-80s signature guitars are all just a way for guitar companies to sell image on top of their cheaper guitars for a huge mark up. If you get one of these things at a good discount, that is fine, but in truth, they tend to be low-end models in comparison to say, a regular american produced jazzmaster. I can't speak on this particular models, but in regards to things like the Mascis one, and a few other sig guitars from companies like Fender and Gibson, I have to say they are rarely worth it, and are even at times shitty guitars. But guitars are like personalities, everyone likes things different.

this was not a diss to you personally by the way, as much as a diss on signature guitars
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Old 06.12.2009, 02:28 PM   #25
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Judging by the components I doubt these are low-end models, but hey, I'm not a gear expert at all, so I'd better shut the fuck up, in all honesty.
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Old 06.12.2009, 02:31 PM   #26
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yeah, seems like they're using the 'spensive pickups that Thurston and Lee like.

But still, it's Fender, so I'd have to agree that the markup is ridiculous.


I've never spend over 200 bucks on a guitar, and I love all my guitars.

Though I'm pretty sure some of them I could sell for 500-600 bucks easy.
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Old 06.12.2009, 02:40 PM   #27
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This makes me sad. Because I know they're going to be so much money and I'll never have one. And ironically, the "signature" of the Lee and T's guitars from the getgo, was to buy the cheapest guitars that no-one else even wanted.

^Agreed. I wonder how much they will be?!

Very cool though. Im happy for T & Lee, they look super cute holding their sig-jazz's. Thanks Moshe.
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Old 06.12.2009, 02:50 PM   #28
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yeah, seems like they're using the 'spensive pickups that Thurston and Lee like.

But still, it's Fender, so I'd have to agree that the markup is ridiculous.


I've never spend over 200 bucks on a guitar, and I love all my guitars.

Though I'm pretty sure some of them I could sell for 500-600 bucks easy.

no, they don't use 'expensive' hardware and pickups unless you are buying from custom shop and spending well over $1500

Your best bet is to do what Sonic youth has always done, by a thrashed jazzmaster, or even a squire jazzmaster, and re-wire it yourself, and buy the upgraded pickups on your own. You will save hundreds of dollars, and have a lot more fun in the process

not to hate on sonic youth, but I do not generally enjoy signature guitars unless they are true originals. Just re-packaging a jazzmaster is not exactly a signature guitar.. lets see a new design, something original.
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Old 06.12.2009, 03:43 PM   #29
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That is amazing. I'd love to get one of those.
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Old 06.12.2009, 03:46 PM   #30
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no, they don't use 'expensive' hardware and pickups unless you are buying from custom shop and spending well over $1500

Your best bet is to do what Sonic youth has always done, by a thrashed jazzmaster, or even a squire jazzmaster, and re-wire it yourself, and buy the upgraded pickups on your own. You will save hundreds of dollars, and have a lot more fun in the process

not to hate on sonic youth, but I do not generally enjoy signature guitars unless they are true originals. Just re-packaging a jazzmaster is not exactly a signature guitar.. lets see a new design, something original.

Well by expensive, I mean, they use third party ones. From what I've heard, Lee's wide-range pickups are like the originals, where-as the new ones that they use on shit aren't as good.

But anyways, I don't care. I'm happy with my current guitars!In fact I could probably go down to 3 electrics from the 6 I have, as much as it pains me to say.
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Old 06.12.2009, 04:04 PM   #31
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Old 06.12.2009, 04:05 PM   #32
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Regarding signature guitars, they're cool, and sometimes they're really unique and stand out (Lee's Jazzmaster is entirely different from every other Jazzmaster right now), but I'd feel like such a nerd gigging with one or something like that. Maybe that's just me though.

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Old 06.12.2009, 04:46 PM   #33
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yeah, that zine looks pretty cool. one of ya'll should buy one of those jazzmasters and post the zine up here.

last i'd heard (couple months ago) a version of the zine will be given away w/ filter mag + then the 'proper' one (which is so unbelievably cool) will be sold w/ the gtrs..

i'm hoping to incorporate parts of it into the gear guide, but we'll see...
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Old 06.12.2009, 04:53 PM   #34
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hmm i have a Cort G Series.The Tremolo Sucks.
But beside this it´s a pretty nice guitar.it costs roundabout €190

did somebody else serisously play on a Cort G Series Guitar?

the fender jazzmaster looks pretty cool and the tremolo looks alot better.
i youst need a fender jazzmaster like thurston not the thurston-edition.
i don´t wanna spend much money...
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Old 06.12.2009, 06:09 PM   #35
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Well by expensive, I mean, they use third party ones. From what I've heard, Lee's wide-range pickups are like the originals, where-as the new ones that they use on shit aren't as good.

But anyways, I don't care. I'm happy with my current guitars!In fact I could probably go down to 3 electrics from the 6 I have, as much as it pains me to say.

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Seymour made this Antiquity™ model to look and sound like a well-worn '50s humbucker as originally designed by Seth E. Lover. The pickups are built to traditional standards. Each has its own character and DC resistance, just like the originals. He wanted to give the player a pickup that looks like it's been played regularly for 40 years, so he aged the nickel silver cover and the poles. Included is a front-tapered mounting ring and the screws that go with it. The pickup is not wax potted, which retains the vintage sound and appearance. Crafted by hand in Seymour's "Antiquity" room, each pickup is signed on the magnet and bottom plate to guarantee you are getting an original Seymour W. Duncan Antiquity™.
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"Fender revoiced and improved wide-range humbuckers" (i.e., from the early 1970s reissues)



 




Both label it as stream-lined electronics but that doesn't necessarily imply 'expensive' pots, switches, wiring, jacks and capacitors , which could all just be mid-grade fender parts. as I said, you generally have to buy the upgrades yourself to get nice wiring, that's what I do with my guitars.

If these things cost under a $1000 you can bet that fender skimped on the wiring which is the veins and arteries of guitars, though if they are in the range of the Mascis pricing, then the Thurston guitar is actually not a bad deal with those Antiquities, they can be pricey for a pair..
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according to a guy on harmony central, the msrp is $1,880.
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That they give you a bunch of stickers to put on them is pretty lame.

totally.


I ask myself though, "had I been in Thurston's shoes when he was starting off, would he purchase his idol's "signature series" guitar (theoretically speaking)... I doubt he would have.

Still, can't blame them for putting it out there
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Old 06.13.2009, 11:25 AM   #38
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About the stickers, I'm pretty sure the purpose is just to promote artists they like, and probably they don't give a flying fuck wether or not people will think "yeah, stickers, let's make GTRZ PUNKY LOOKIN'"!!.
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some stuck up 14-year old boy with rich parents is going to get this guitar because he loved teenage riot from rockband. and he's going to put the stickers on it and make it look 'punky' and then not learn how to play the damn thing and unfortunately rot away in a basement with broken strings occasionally being played by drunk assholes who want to impress fat anime chicks by playing the first three chords to a green day song
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some stuck up 14-year old boy with rich parents is going to get this guitar because he loved teenage riot from rockband. and he's going to put the stickers on it and make it look 'punky' and then not learn how to play the damn thing and unfortunately rot away in a basement with broken strings occasionally being played by drunk assholes who want to impress fat anime chicks by playing the first three chords to a green day song
this makes me frowny.
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