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Old 12.13.2017, 09:35 AM   #4821
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Old 12.16.2017, 03:52 PM   #4822
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I read “Ready Player One” by Ernest Cline. It was ... clever? And fun? But... honestly, not great. I mean I totally enjoyed it, but people treat it like a modern classic just because it addresses out society’s obsession with virtual opium, but as a story, it doesn’t have much meat to it, and it ended like every hero’s journey fuckaround ever.

Now I need a new book. Plowing through “Love and Other Demons” by Gabriel Garcia-Marquez and a bunch of Lovecraft stories I’ve already read. I need something new that isn’t something I usually read. Like a boxing biography or something.
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Old 12.16.2017, 03:58 PM   #4823
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Old 12.17.2017, 06:13 PM   #4824
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God, Gabriel García Márquez was fucking amazing.

How often does a writer come around who can master newswriting, and then go on to basically rewrite the rules of creative fiction, creating a sub-genre or two while he’s at it?

Goddamn motherfucking Dickens is what he is. Only, sweet Jesus, maybe even better?
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Old 12.17.2017, 06:29 PM   #4825
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he’s better.
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Old 12.17.2017, 10:02 PM   #4826
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he’s better.

Right now, I’m actually inclined to agree. I grab one of his books for a re-read because I’m bored and have nothing else, and I end up not sleeping and just reading the hell out of the thing. Fucking top-tier.
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Old 12.19.2017, 11:55 AM   #4827
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glad someone uses those books. I cant stand them (Dickens and/or Marquez)
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Old 12.19.2017, 01:06 PM   #4828
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Right now, I’m actually inclined to agree. I grab one of his books for a re-read because I’m bored and have nothing else, and I end up not sleeping and just reading the hell out of the thing. Fucking top-tier.
right now and forever he’s infinitely better.
reducing the guy to the silly label of “magical realism” is to misapprehend the guy’s linguistic virtuosity and sheer power of invention and tremendous sense of humor. i put him up there with cervantes, who invented the modern novel.

i just found this interview with him, which starts great. check what happens when the interviewer pulls out a tape recorder”

https://www.theparisreview.org/inter...garcia-marquez

off to read the rest!

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fuck. it asks for subscription! dicks.



so i went googling “garcia marquez cervantes” and i found this

https://newrepublic.com/article/1174...ish-literature

and i have to agree— cien años is better than don quijote.

jeezus nothing ever blew my mind for such a long time than that book except maybe for borges, but then i figured out borges’s trick, and gabo’s i haven’t yet and i probably never will.
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Old 12.19.2017, 04:58 PM   #4829
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Old 12.19.2017, 08:38 PM   #4830
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glad someone uses those books. I cant stand them (Dickens and/or Marquez)

... k.

I question so much about you so often. I think you like it that way.
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Old 12.20.2017, 10:14 AM   #4831
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can't stand them. Dickens was forced down my throat ion AP English classes in 9th grade and senior year. I hated it so much. I found it to be the dullest assignments ever given in these advanced english classes. That is, until I went to University and had to read Marquez and found out what truly insufferable prose is.
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That is, until I went to University and had to read Marquez and found out what truly insufferable prose is.
qué pena me da tu caso...
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Old 12.20.2017, 10:43 AM   #4833
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me da pena que gente tiene que leer esa porqueria
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aludía a esta famosa canción, con tan chistoso coro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrZB7D0ZgQY

¿qué te pasó en esa universidad? ¿qué carajos te hicieron?

puedo entender diferentes críticas a garcía márquez, que abundan; pero eso de que su prosa es mala me parece cosa sin fundamento. ¿a qué específicamente te refieres, aparte de tus sentimientos? a ver si explicas...

digo, por ejemplo: cita el párrafo que más te moleste y muestra de qué manera es mala prosa. a ver si es cierto. eso de nada más repetir insultos, pues... he's rubber you're glue
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can't stand them. Dickens was forced down my throat ion AP English classes in 9th grade and senior year. I hated it so much. I found it to be the dullest assignments ever given in these advanced english classes.


I used to feel that way about a couple authors in the past, too. We got Nathaniel Hawthorne, Melville and George Eliot taught by poor teachers in High School. I later rediscovered them in as an adult and in a great college class.
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I used to feel that way about a couple authors in the past, too. We got Nathaniel Hawthorne, Melville and George Eliot taught by poor teachers in High School. I later rediscovered them in as an adult and in a great college class.
it's not necessarily bad teachers but mandatory reading that can ruin the pleasure for a person. often for good.

i haven't ever recovered from 5 years of grad school

if reading is like sex, then mandatory reading is like... i might get ptsd if i start talking

anyway, thanks to your recommendation i've had this kapuczinksi (sp?) book on selassie for a while now. i read a few pages that were good but then i was afraid or something. i'm still looking it at it, uncertain...
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I have tried Dickens again and Marquez again for to five years ago, and it was EVEN WORSE.
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i found this old review that deals with actual prose. and not the original but the translation. it actually deals with the prose itself:

 

 
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can't stand them. Dickens was forced down my throat ion AP English classes in 9th grade and senior year. I hated it so much. I found it to be the dullest assignments ever given in these advanced english classes. That is, until I went to University and had to read Marquez and found out what truly insufferable prose is.

Huh. Well, I actually think high school and perhaps even college is a bit young to grasp Marquez. With Dickens you have to have an appreciation for craft, regardless of your opinion of his stories. Kind of like Shakespeare. You can hate it, but it’s not bad. Overrated, maybe. But it’s just not bad writing. It’s actually very good writing, even when it’s dull AF.
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Huh. Well, I actually think high school and perhaps even college is a bit young to grasp Marquez. With Dickens you have to have an appreciation for craft, regardless of your opinion of his stories. Kind of like Shakespeare. You can hate it, but it’s not bad. Overrated, maybe. But it’s just not bad writing. It’s actually very good writing, even when it’s dull AF.
i first read cien años when i was 12 or 13 but it was in spanish so i did not need the anthropological mediation of an education to get it immediately.

unlike most things i read at that age, i have kept coming back to it over the decades and it's never old.

shakespeare funny enough i like better in translation than in english, because i have difficulty with his brilliant but for me inaccessible turns of expression, so instead of appearing luminous they register in my reduced ability as overwrought and self-conscious, and ultimately alienate me. i don't blame him for it, the problem is my painful lack of intimacy with the language--in other words too much friction and i need vaseline ha ha ha. so yeah, i'd rather read shakespeare in smooth translation where i can better grasp his psychological genius rather than his verbal virtuosity. my loss, i know, but best i can do.
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