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Old 09.18.2017, 03:09 PM   #4741
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i sort of don't believe in books anymore. sad but true. all that fattening of pages for what could take 2.


so now yr a poet?
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Old 09.18.2017, 03:20 PM   #4742
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so now yr a poet?
borges made the case for all that long ago

i won't repeat his argument, but it's all over his work

and sure, why not!

no poetry slams though please
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Old 09.18.2017, 05:52 PM   #4743
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e.g., im reading this book right now (well not this instant but this afternoon)

 


i started by having to skip 10% of it which is pure introduction and fluff

i have yet to get to the meat of the book-- how to build an earthen floor

by the time i'm done reading and taking notes it will probably be reduced to less than 10 pages

but publishers must justify the cost and need 200 pages for 3 ideas

the world needs more pamphlets
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Old 09.18.2017, 07:07 PM   #4744
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e.g., im reading this book right now (well not this instant but this afternoon)

 


i started by having to skip 10% of it which is pure introduction and fluff

i have yet to get to the meat of the book-- how to build an earthen floor

by the time i'm done reading and taking notes it will probably be reduced to less than 10 pages

but publishers must justify the cost and need 200 pages for 3 ideas

the world needs more pamphlets

Hey you weirdo, my mother has that book! Yeah, she bought it (and, like, twenty others) with aspirations for some property she has in New Mexico that she no longer has time to visit because the world is a cold dark place and she had to go back to work a few years ago despite having worked for a quarter century as a college professor.

I hope she gets back there at some point. And I hope I can help. Fucking love it out there.
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Old 09.18.2017, 07:15 PM   #4745
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nice! but so many bullshit words in that book man.

im working on reducing all the gibberish and hippy talk into a simple flowchart

fuck! turns out i have to start from the end where subfloors are discussed

first subfloor, then floor

for the subfloor: drainage gravel, vapor barrier, insulation, compacted gravel,

for the floor: 1/2"-2"of a cob mixture

cure with linseed oil with a solvent in a 3:1 mix in a single pour

fuckers SHOULD START WITH THE CONCLUSIONS

then give you the filler

they should take a lesson from journalism

same with everything: gimme the executive summary and then the full report

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY!
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Old 09.18.2017, 07:16 PM   #4746
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HEY. i have an idea for you. why don't you sell the current house with its giant spaces and utility bills and buy the new mexico place from her? then you can fix it and she can visit you whenever

is it near any kind of city?

you can do a lot with satellite internet these days. they just launched a new one, faster-- i can't get a contract with it cuz my life in in suspense at the moment (jobs, etc)
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Old 09.18.2017, 09:46 PM   #4747
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HEY. i have an idea for you. why don't you sell the current house with its giant spaces and utility bills and buy the new mexico place from her? then you can fix it and she can visit you whenever

is it near any kind of city?

you can do a lot with satellite internet these days. they just launched a new one, faster-- i can't get a contract with it cuz my life in in suspense at the moment (jobs, etc)

Hah. Yeah, we've floated that idea. But it's nowhere near anything. Really. I've never been as isolated. It's AWESOME except when you need to go to, like, a store. And we lost our truck for hauling water. one of us should fly out there soon and take a look see though. It's been a year since anyone was there, and that makes me nervous.

I'd love to though. I'm not sure it's practical just now. Trying to juggle two homes with a (basically) two-person family is tough, especially when one of you is 65. I'll keep it in the idea jar though.

ETA: Are idea jars a thing? I have no clue. But that's where I'm told I should put my swears, so I figure jars are fair game for non-tangibles.
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Old 09.18.2017, 10:03 PM   #4748
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yeah on GTD it's called "MAYBE/SOMEDAY". good system

so-- do you wanna sell it?

where it at?? how big the land?

ha ha ha ha

hmmmm

btw, read brad lancaster on water harvesting
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Old 09.19.2017, 06:37 AM   #4749
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i read multiple reviews of that book and feel like "nothing to see here". in the sense that there are no new ideas advanced by it, but rather it's a compendium of common knowledge plus some errors (see the review on "the guardian" for a list of gaffes).

no new ideas except for maybe the bit about humans rallying around fictions. that's a great model to see things. human rights as religion, sure. but do i need to read 500 pages to grasp that? nope. it's immediately graspable, thanks-- next?

i sort of don't believe in books anymore. sad but true. all that fattening of pages for what could take 2.

And that's just negated everything you said before. Some things aren't as easy as a two page summary. That's like saying you get all the information you need about the news from Twitter.

There are books out there that will focus purely on the rise of capitalism, others focusing on the idea of animal rights and that's fine. But that's not what this book set about to do, as the title hints at. If anything, books like Sapiens help the reader push where to focus onto next.

Just cos one person knows all about the dawn of man and the change from foraging to agriculture doesn't mean the next is.
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Old 09.19.2017, 08:13 AM   #4750
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And that's just negated everything you said before. Some things aren't as easy as a two page summary. That's like saying you get all the information you need about the news from Twitter.

There are books out there that will focus purely on the rise of capitalism, others focusing on the idea of animal rights and that's fine. But that's not what this book set about to do, as the title hints at. If anything, books like Sapiens help the reader push where to focus onto next.

Just cos one person knows all about the dawn of man and the change from foraging to agriculture doesn't mean the next is.
right. which is why i'd rather gather the information in discrete packets. in other words--essays.

what i'm aiming at is a discrepancy between the need for knowledge and the the need for publishers to do business. publishers need glossy attractive packets that look good in a coffee table, knowledge only requires... to fill the gaps in knowledge, plus the new ideas.

this is why i find myself reading wikipedia multiple times a day, whereas it takes a lot for me to commit to a book. got to the point where i've started giving wikipedia money-- they really do me a huge service which i can't ignore.

now, as for errors to be found on wikipedia-- there are errors to be found everywhere. read the guardian's review i mention and you'll see examples.

but yeah. i'm not saying i'm against reading or against ideas. it's just the 500-page volumes i find myself increasingly less willing to handle. i'd buy only "select chapters" if i could-- or pamphlets. many 18th/19th century pamphlets changed the world and didn't need to come in thick volumes (let's look in wikipedia for a list ha ha ha).

where did pamphlets go?
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Old 09.19.2017, 10:36 AM   #4751
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yeah on GTD it's called "MAYBE/SOMEDAY". good system

so-- do you wanna sell it?

where it at?? how big the land?

ha ha ha ha

hmmmm

btw, read brad lancaster on water harvesting

Eh, that's getting into specifics that violate my personal privacy rules about internet blah-blahing. Want info for real, pm me and give me some juicy dets I can use against you if you stalk me.
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Old 09.19.2017, 10:39 AM   #4752
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where did pamphlets go?

Internet. Also landfills or pricey recycled paper?
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Internet. Also landfills or pricey recycled paper?

no! the new york library apparently has an important collection of historical pamphlets

the landfill is where my book boxes are going. i have not opened them in years and not sure the prices are worth selling.

but yeah. we need a netflix/spotify of book chapters. why buy a whole album when you just want 2 songs? same with books: i'll take the important essays. please keep the fluff.

anyway still trying to distill a flowchart from that hippy book. hippys are confusing! the ramblings and lack of certitude! i need clear formulas.

working on it
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Old 09.19.2017, 01:42 PM   #4754
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no! the new york library apparently has an important collection of historical pamphlets

the landfill is where my book boxes are going. i have not opened them in years and not sure the prices are worth selling.

but yeah. we need a netflix/spotify of book chapters. why buy a whole album when you just want 2 songs? same with books: i'll take the important essays. please keep the fluff.

anyway still trying to distill a flowchart from that hippy book. hippys are confusing! the ramblings and lack of certitude! i need clear formulas.

working on it


That's why I love science writing and (good) journalism. To the point, no bullshit, no fluff, just mad dets and facts and formulas and structure. STRUCTURE!

I suck at feature-writing, because I simply lack the skills to get fluff into a readable format. I should get me some of them skills tho.
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That's why I love science writing and (good) journalism. To the point, no bullshit, no fluff, just mad dets and facts and formulas and structure. STRUCTURE!

I suck at feature-writing, because I simply lack the skills to get fluff into a readable format. I should get me some of them skills tho.
structure is mental gold

a memory palace instead of a pigsty

anyway i have cleared my shitbox. a full shitbox is unsightly and it smells!

SELL ME YR LAND

(nah, don't sell it yet. im just curious about it)

BTW-- i have a friend who is a caretaker in a millionaire summer cabin. lives there rent-free most of the year and keeps it pest-free, then scoots out when the owners come (all done with proper arrangements)

anyway-- off topic. so back to books/readings.

it's coffee time!!! FOOD OF THE GODS THIS IS NOT BUT IT HELPS
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Picked up “Catch-22” last night on a whim. It’s been a while. I was laughing out loud by page 2. Might read while waiting for “Sapiens” to come.
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Old 10.13.2017, 02:31 PM   #4757
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I'm reading A Fire Upon the Deep. High concept science fiction about the far future when humans have colonized the Galaxy, and omniscient super-AIs protect and destroy entire civilizations. Pretty visionary entertaining stuff, I'd recommend it.

Sapiens was really good, I liked it so much I bought a hard copy. Seems like just about everybody is reading it lately.

That Kepler book sounds good
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Vernor Vinge is worth reading! I 2nd that about Fire Upon the Deep.

I'm reading The Night Manager by John LeCarre...english intelligence taking out some bad guys...
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