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Old 07.26.2013, 02:50 PM   #46161
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Old 07.26.2013, 03:04 PM   #46162
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Its too bad that Tenacious D never crossed that Zappa level where their comedy music become so bitingly satirical so as to become serious music! A lot people never got Zappa, they thought it was just comedy music, but it was so much deeper than that. Zappa's music perfectly encapsulated just how stupid it is being an American.
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Old 07.26.2013, 03:19 PM   #46163
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It's too bad that short fat balding musicians with amazing talent get no respect in the music industry.

Huey Lewis and the News would have withered on the bar-scene vine if they were trying to make it in today's "musical" climate..

Not to say they are great or anything, but when radio rules, your sound was your calling card, and your looks were more of a quick advert. Now your look is your draw, and your rep and your whole definition, and everything sounds like it was produced by the asshole who recorded all those shitty LIVE and CREED albums.....
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Old 07.26.2013, 03:22 PM   #46164
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Again, what killed Tenacious D was they never crossed that threshold to make their music seem intentionally serious. They played themselves as a novelty, as just some kind of musical skit comedy show, and that was NOT what Zappa and the Mothers were doing, even though the Mothers are probably the most hilarious music ever performed. Still, while being funny, the Mothers never lost sight of being legitimate musicians, not just some kind of schticky comedy routine.. I don't think Jack Black ever really took that shit all to serious.
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Old 07.26.2013, 03:53 PM   #46165
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I think they took the musicianship serious, but the aim was to be funny.

I hate their electric LP though. hated it when it came out. I like the acoustic freakouts.
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I think they took the musicianship serious, but the aim was to be funny.

I hate their electric LP though. hated it when it came out. I like the acoustic freakouts.

I don't. Sure, the songs were played in a generally proficient manner, but they always felt disingenuous, almost like a parody of themselves. Again, Jack Black was very clearly trying to make this some kind of extended stand up comedy thing, but they had some marginal talent as musicians, and could have made something a bit better. Though, very few if any people have been able to navigate that world with the satirical seriousness of Frank Zappa and survive.. The guy was like the Salvidor Dali of music, you couldn't take him too serious, but definitely don't take him for a joke.


 
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Tenacious D... I'm not exactly up to date on them... (Aren't they basically just an HBO show now, or have they turned into an app or something now?) ...
However, I did see them after their first (only?) album came out, and they definitely have skill. Jack Black is a genuinely proficient guitarist. He knows how to play the thing. He could step in and record as a studio guitarist for any metal band, and the end result would be convincing.

That said, nobody should be comparing him to Frank Zappa. Different worlds. Weird Al is good at playing some instruments, and can probably at least jam a bit on ALL of them. But does that mean we should be comparing him to Beck?

Tenacious D was never intended to cross the bridge, and turn into a serious band. Frank Zappa was never, at any point in his career, a comedian. He was serious in the best way. I can think of only a small handful of artists who can truly be compared to the Mothers of Invention... "The D" are not one of them.
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Tenacious D... I'm not exactly up to date on them... (Aren't they basically just an HBO show now, or have they turned into an app or something now?) ...
However, I did see them after their first (only?) album came out, and they definitely have skill. Jack Black is a genuinely proficient guitarist. He knows how to play the thing. He could step in and record as a studio guitarist for any metal band, and the end result would be convincing.

That said, nobody should be comparing him to Frank Zappa. Different worlds. Weird Al is good at playing some instruments, and can probably at least jam a bit on ALL of them. But does that mean we should be comparing him to Beck?

Tenacious D was never intended to cross the bridge, and turn into a serious band. Frank Zappa was never, at any point in his career, a comedian. He was serious in the best way. I can think of only a small handful of artists who can truly be compared to the Mothers of Invention... "The D" are not one of them.

A lot of Frank Zappa was very openly a mockery of "comedy music" and so I agree, its like artificial apple flavoring to the primal apple in the Eden gardens of the Caucasus region where apples originated. Like some freeze-dried coffee to some fresh roasted, wild grown coffee in Yirgecheffe in Southern Ethiopia, where coffee originated. However, apples are apples, coffee is coffee, and Frank Zappa was intentionally trying to be funny, hence comedy. Now was he not being serious? No. Was it deeply satiric? Of course. But people like Joan Boaz or Kurt Cobain are funny in music in a different way and to degree than Frank Zappa. And yes, 1966- 1970 and the Mothers was not exactly serious, in fact, its fucking hilarious in way that makes Tenacious D seem quaint, boring even




 


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electric Miles is some sick shit. don't really like "On The Corner"(too repetitive and boring) and "Bitches Brew" as much as others do. i like the funky Get Up On It stuff. know what i mean?

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