[stu666]

i'm sorry but i hate everything about football can't stand the so called beautiful game however i'm posting this song for my friends brother who's made this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiWEA5fUjUg

[_slavo_]

Stu, I guess you're missing much by being Englishman and not liking football at all. If I were British, I'd pick a team according to my location, would buy a season ticket and be on the pitch every single weekend.
British fandom of football has always been very fascinating for me.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Maradona v Pele:

Argentina's problem is that they're coached by Maradona at the moment and while he was a great player is a disaster as a coach. Usually, Argentina are a brilliant side but so long as Maradona is in charge they've really struggled.

argentina has players to field 3 world-class teams but with that cokehead coach they love so much they're going to be in trouble. yet-- who the fuck knows.

june 11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ive got a new supermighty tv antenna & a bigass TV just for this.... well not really... the antenna yes, the tv is for "work".

you know, reviewing porn flicks.

no, not really.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by _slavo_

Stu, I guess you're missing much by being Englishman and not liking football at all. If I were British, I'd pick a team according to my location, would buy a season ticket and be on the pitch every single weekend.
British fandom of football has always been very fascinating for me.

yeah, like a national geographic documentary about hyenas!

they've got good teams though, but the fucking fans are an embarrassment

 

i'd say to stu watch on tv at home AWAY FROM PEOPLE. people are mostly repugnant creatures... best watched from afar...

though going to a stadium can be sweet...

[SonicBebs]

Originally Posted by blunderbuss

What a darn fine week this has been for west London.

Now, what are QPR and Brentford's chances for promotion?

er, not good

but more importantly, will Palace stay up? And will they have a team next season?

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[stu666]

Originally Posted by _slavo_

Stu, I guess you're missing much by being Englishman and not liking football at all. If I were British, I'd pick a team according to my location, would buy a season ticket and be on the pitch every single weekend.
British fandom of football has always been very fascinating for me.

i don't think i'm missing much, my local club is Ipswich i guess but i don't care if they do well or not. i don't see why anyone would pay £30 or whatever to see some men running around for 90 mins trying to kick a ball in a net. but each to their own i spose.

[stu666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

yeah, like a national geographic documentary about hyenas!

they've got good teams though, but the fucking fans are an embarrassment

 

i'd say to stu watch on tv at home AWAY FROM PEOPLE. people are mostly repugnant creatures... best watched from afar...

though going to a stadium can be sweet...

i understand what you're saying about the fans allthough not all are like that i know. i have tried watching alone but makes no difference to me, i still hate it. i don't like many sports in general really and i think it stems from my school days. i got expelled for headbutting my P.E teacher who was the biggest twat ever.

[the ikara cult]

all the people who have ever said Ronaldo or Rooney are next to Messi are absolute morons. Messi has been the best player in the world for the past 3 years. Its the English media thats perpetuated the fallacy that they can really stand up to him

And by the way i think Xavi and Essien are right behind Rooney and Ronaldo, in fact Essien might be the second best.

He did score this blinder that everyones forgotten, Makalele never did anything like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KuGLjYBOY4

 

Nice to see this whole thread being taken up with South West London club matters; my friend who goes to Griffin Park remains pessimistic about Brentfords future prospects. I do hope the Palace stay up though. QPR ive never been able to love.

[_slavo_]

Don't forget about Iniesta, my second favourite world football player (right after Messi).

[the ikara cult]

yeah, Iniesta is outstanding. When he scored the equaliser against Chelsea last year i almost hit my head on the ceiling.
Messi, Xavi, Iniesta would be well qualified to be in the team of the decade.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

all the people who have ever said Ronaldo or Rooney are next to Messi are absolute morons.

Rooney especially is a very different player to Messi. Rooney is one of the best readers of the game I've ever seen. He may not be spectacular in what he does but his awareness of what's going on really is second to none. In that sense I'd put him closer to Totti - with a far better workrate. Ronaldo is closer to Messi but, I agree, not as good a player. The decision between Rooney and Messi though, far from being moronic, is more down to criteria. In a free-flowing footballing situation (as Messi faced against Arsenal) I'd go with the Argentinian over anyone right now. In a tight, physical battle against a more defensively minded side though, I'd probably favour Rooney.

In terms of comparing Messi with Maradona, I think they're about the same in terms of raw talent, but so far Messi has achieved everything with an already brilliant Barcelona side while Maradona pretty much singlehandedly led an otherwise fairly average Napoli side to the Serie A title.

And I completely agree about Essien.

[SonicBebs]

the thing about the English fans is there are thousands upon thousands of football fans who go to football each weekend throughout the country. How many times has it kicked off in the last 5 years? Once? West Ham against Milwall for sure and i can't think of any other time
In the 70's and 80's it was savage but these days its almost unheard of.

And yet in recent years there's been a number of English fans stabbed while at away matches (seemingly just while on route to the stadium as opposed to during a fight)
You dont get people throwing Pigs Heads at players from the Holmesdale End. I dont recall a fucking moped being launched from the kop.
I dont remember English fans organising a battle royale in the woods near the border with a neighbouring country
and so on

[demonrail666]

That's all true but largely I think because the worst offenders aren't in the prem. If teams like Cardiff or Millwall get into the top flight I think we might see a lot more of it. The media only really takes that big an interest when a premiership team is involved - as with the West Ham v Millwall thing. But yes, on the whole I agree with you in thinking that, on the whole, the problem is far worse in Italy and Spain right now than it is in the UK. The big difference though is that England has a far stronger culture of fans travelling en masse to watch away games whereas from what I understand fans in the rest of Europe tend to stick either to home games or local derbies. Hence there's far more likelihood in England of fights breaking out in a game between say West Ham and Cardiff than there is between say Napoli and AC Milan.

The problem in terms of English supporters traveling to Europe is that they're still seen as kind of hooligan royalty. I know someone from Italy who tells me the 'ultras' for his team, Juventus, idolise the old West Ham, Manchester United and Chelsea 'crews' from back in the 70s and 80s and so go all out when any of those teams' supporters go over there - which in the case of West Ham is, of course very rare indeed. Although something similar happened to them in the US a couple of years ago when they went over there to play Columbus Crew.

[chicka]

Fascinating the odds for the World Cup. Italy looks like a great bet. Good odds on a team that knows how to get the job done. I think it's interesting that Spain is the favorite. I remember watching them win Euro 08. I'll be rooting naturally for the upstarts in red white and blue......Going to be sweet taking England out of it.......

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

yeah, Iniesta is outstanding. When he scored the equaliser against Chelsea last year i almost hit my head on the ceiling.
Messi, Xavi, Iniesta would be well qualified to be in the team of the decade.

Because I'm bored/trying to avoid doing some actual work, my team of the decade, based on a 4-4-2:

1 - Buffon (GK)
2 - Maldini (LB)
3 - Ferdinand (CB)
4 - Nesta (CB)
5 - Thuram (RB)
6 - Ronaldinho (LW)
7 - Zidane (CMF - Attacking)
8 - Essien (CMF - Defensive)
9 - Christiano Ronaldo (RW)
10 - Totti (STR)
11 - Raul (STR)

Subs:

GK - Chech
DF - Ashley Cole
DF - Zanetti
MF - Kaka
MF - Roy Keane
FW - Drogba
FW - Eto'o

Manager: Mourinho (even though I can't stand him)

I've not included Messi or Rooney because they look more like they'll come into their own during this decade rather than the last one.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

argentina has players to field 3 world-class teams but with that cokehead coach they love so much they're going to be in trouble. yet-- who the fuck knows.

Argentina may have the playing talent but Maradona's tactical awareness is zero. They'll be ok when they're able to boss a game from the beginning but against a well organised side they'll be hopeless.

It's still Spain for me.

[chicka]

and they can't get rid of Maradona cause he's a national hero I take it. Maybe the players will take it on themselves to change the style of play. Is there a limit on the number of substitutions a coach can make in a game. A red card or 2 yellows in the same game equal immediate suspension from play? Yes or No?

[demonrail666]

He is a national hero, but I'm surprised he's still in place as national coach. The players apparently despair at his ineptitude and I suspect the Argentinian fans would rather he went if it meant giving the team a stronger chance of success. They won't replace him during the finals though. Once they're knocked out though, he'll be gone.

Regarding the substitutions and cards thing, teams can make three substitutions per game and yes, any player receiving a red card or two yellows in a single game means them being sent off during that game as well as a suspension from the next one. Also two yellows collected by any player during any stage of the tournament (be it the group or knockout stage) also means disqualification from the next game.

[_slavo_]

I also played in a football tournament organized by some christian youth movement and there was except for the obvious yellow and red cards also the possibility to obtain a blue card for cursing and swearing. For 2 blue cards there was 1 yellow card.
But I don't want to fool chicka with my dark past.

[demonrail666]

hahaha. it'd be interesting if they applied that in the premiership. john terry would hardly make it out of the dressing room.

On another note. is this racist?

 

[_slavo_]

Originally Posted by stu666

i got expelled for headbutting my P.E teacher who was the biggest twat ever.

you? you seemed like the friendliest person ever when I met you, stu. Can't imagine yourself doing something like that.