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Old 01.26.2013, 02:18 PM   #2401
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Don't be hating on the Black Lions, we ain't been deep in the Africas Cup for 30 years, but don't trip, we got this

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The Black Lions of Ethiopia despite over 30 years of oblivion from the continental scene were strong enough to bring down the defending champions, the Copper Bullets (Chippolopolo) of Zambia, to a 1-1 tie.
As expected the Zambians circulated the ball pretty well during the first half culminated by an opener at the 45’ by Orlando Pirate’s, Collins Mbesuma.
The wounded lions roared back at 65’ with a goal from Adane Girma. The lions then succeeded in managing the tempo of game till the end.
This unexpected draw comes to bring the number of ties in the tourney to four out of five game played so far.


Zambia won last Orange Africa Cup of Nations, last year. But their coach, Hervé Renard, is wary of Ethiopia‘s threat. Will this encounter prove him right? His rival Seyoum Kebede announces: “We are returning to the glory days.
Ethiopia will be welcomed back to the Orange Africa Cup of Nations fold over three decades since they fail to qualify with a tough fixture against defending Champions Zambia.
The Walya Antelopes who had totally been out of the picture and written off on all fronts sprang a surprise even to their own disbelief by securing a ticket for the 2013 Orange Africa Cup of Nations- at the expense of Sudan.
The East Africans boast of a team composed of home-based players from Dedebit, Defence and Saint George with only star man Said Saladin playing professional football in Egypt.
Their quarter final exit at the regional Cecafa tournament is not a result to judge them by given that they went into the competition with a second string team.
Their build up to the competition has been very promising, holding Tunisia to a 1-1 draw and defeating Tanzania 2-1.
Their performances have not gone unnoticed by Zambian head coach Herve Renard who recently voiced his admiration for the team.
The French man will be looking to keep the Afcon crown on their head beyond 2013 when they take to the pitch for their first game against the Ethiopians.
Renard has maintained most of the players that won the crown last year in Gabon and Equatorial Guinea- and maybe the habits- and why not his trade mark white shirts.
Zambia’s record in the warm up games has been dreadful but that will count for nothing when the Copper bullets are unleashed on the pitch to start firing down victims en route to their goal.
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Old 01.26.2013, 03:14 PM   #2402
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oh, i saw that hazard footage now, that fucking ballboy deserved more than just one kick. the shit some people do to get their 15 minutes![/quoyr]

You're right but as we're talking about a Chelsea player, I want nothing but the guillotine

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speaking of fuck ups, and the uefa, what do you guys think of this?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle7866445/

in theory, i agree, in practice, i don't know enough

I tend to agree with you. My instinct is that it should be scrapped but I've heard strong arguments both for and against.
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Old 01.26.2013, 03:22 PM   #2403
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@ suchfriends - i haven't been following the african cup. when is the final? i might try to catch that if it's not over yet.

@ demonrail - i thought you liked hazard! if i'm not mistaken, you had recommended that i try to watch him play. but yes, he's the oligarch's cattle and hence your enemy, right?
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Old 01.26.2013, 03:59 PM   #2404
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@ suchfriends - i haven't been following the african cup. when is the final? i might try to catch that if it's not over yet.

@ demonrail - i thought you liked hazard! if i'm not mistaken, you had recommended that i try to watch him play. but yes, he's the oligarch's cattle and hence your enemy, right?

I think the Final February 10. Unfortunately last night Ethiopia got tossed up by Burkina Faso. So its a MUST WIN against Nigeria and even then, we need Zambia to lose or draw. Either way we're just happy to be here with a young, under-experienced squad and we will be rising in African football soon come
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Old 01.26.2013, 04:21 PM   #2405
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@ demonrail - i thought you liked hazard! if i'm not mistaken, you had recommended that i try to watch him play. but yes, he's the oligarch's cattle and hence your enemy, right?

In all seriousness I do, a lot.
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Old 01.26.2013, 05:26 PM   #2406
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@ suchfriends-- oh it's in the group phase! okay. the best ethiopian player i've seen in recent times actually plays for the czech republic, ha ha (well some dude w/ a very ethiopian name).

anyway hm i should sniff around this tournament, they have it up on espn3...
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I think the Final February 10. Unfortunately last night Ethiopia got tossed up by Burkina Faso. So its a MUST WIN against Nigeria and even then, we need Zambia to lose or draw. Either way we're just happy to be here with a young, under-experienced squad and we will be rising in African football soon come

Burkina Faso are freakin awesome! Where the fuck did they come from? I didn't even know there was a country called Burkina Faso. I think Ethiopia can beat Nigeria even though they won't be favourites and Zambia, while better than their position maybe suggests, will struggle against Burkina. Of the countries still trying to qualify, I'm most hoping it's Ethiopia, for the tournament overall, though, I really want the Ivory Coast to win it. But I have to say I'm loving Burkina Faso, wherever the fuck it is.

El Symbols, if you can, watch either Ethiopa's or Zambia's games on Tuesday. Guaranteed epics, I think.
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Old 01.26.2013, 10:15 PM   #2408
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El Symbols, if you can, watch either Ethiopa's or Zambia's games on Tuesday. Guaranteed epics, I think.

Burkina Faso is real deal yo. They are in West Africa smack in between Mali and Ghana. FIFA called them the top 3 team that didn't make the World Cup in 2010. As to Ethiopia, the game will be epic indeed, Nigeria is trying to rebuild their international football credibility and Ethiopia has had some fun building experience playing and winning against some great teams in qualifiers, friendlies, and group matches. If we advance we will be a miraculous Cinderella, but we are happy enough to be here considering how many great African teams didn't and we are still very young. Only one of our players plays "profession" by Euro standards and in Egypt at that!
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Old 01.27.2013, 01:18 PM   #2409
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Spurs lose to Leeds, Chelsea barely scrape a draw to Brentford, and glory of all bloody glories Liverpool lose to Oldham! Take that you bunch of third rate thugs.

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Old 01.27.2013, 01:33 PM   #2410
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Spurs lose to Leeds, Chelsea barely scrape a draw to Brentford, and glory of all bloody glories Liverpool lose to Oldham! Take that you bunch of third rate thugs.

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clearly leeds are the much better team.
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just watched the bayern game mostly in turkish-- hard to make out what they were saying except for "guardiola". mandzukic did good-- i think he's getting better. i'm exhausted!

@ demonrail -- thanks for that, will check out. re: burkina faso is a french former colony you might have learned as "haute volta" (high volta? upper volta?). right above ivory coast (another ex-french colony).

@ suchfriends - any good matches you'd recommend from here? (it's available replays) (please ignore the mismatched dates & times i don't have time to edit)

1/2612:50 PM EST
Algeria vs. Togo ESPN3 1/269:50 AM EST
Cote D'Ivoire vs. Tunisia ESPN3 1/2512:50 PM EST
Burkina Faso vs. Ethiopia ESPN3 1/259:50 AM EST
Zambia vs. Nigeria ESPN3 1/2412:50 PM EST
Niger vs. Congo Dr ESPN3 1/2410:00 AM EST
Ghana vs. Mali ESPN3 1/231:00 PM EST
Morocco vs. Cape Verde ESPN3 1/2310:00 AM EST
South Africa vs. Angola ESPN3 1/221:00 PM EST
Tunisia vs. Algeria ESPN3 1/2210:00 AM EST
Cote D'Ivoire vs. Togo ESPN3 1/211:00 PM EST
Nigeria vs. Burkina Faso ESPN3 1/2110:00 AM EST
Zambia vs. Ethiopia ESPN3 1/201:00 PM EST
Mali vs. Niger ESPN3 1/2010:00 AM EST
Ghana vs. Congo Dr
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It's a case of either 'another reason why the FA Cup is so special' or yet more ammunition for those who think too many teams now see it as a distraction so field second string sides (albeit still usually better than their full strength lower league opposition). No player makes FA Cup success a condition for moving to or staying at a club. Lower league clubs are now more than ever motivated by promotion to the next league or avoiding the drop to the one below. At the top level, CL qualification and the prem title is all (even the UEFA cup is generally seen by clubs as too great a strain on resources to really encourage them to participate) while those at the bottom half of the prem are in full on survival mode just trying to stay there. So for those, too, the FA Cup becomes a distraction. It's a competition that evokes more innocent times that've since been replaced by the logic of hard business. Every fan wants their side to win it but I suspect most would sacrifice it if they felt it hindered their chances in other areas. Seeing West Ham edge ever closer to the end of season relegation battle, I was quietly relieved when MU knocked us out, knowing we could ill afford the juggling act with our squad that'd be necessary to fight two battle fronts given how difficult we're finding it with just one. Or am I just being horribly cynical?
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just watched the bayern game mostly in turkish-- hard to make out what they were saying except for "guardiola". mandzukic did good-- i think he's getting better. i'm exhausted!

@ demonrail -- thanks for that, will check out. re: burkina faso is a french former colony you might have learned as "haute volta" (high volta? upper volta?). right above ivory coast (another ex-french colony).

@ suchfriends - any good matches you'd recommend from here? (it's available replays) (please ignore the mismatched dates & times i don't have time to edit)

1/2612:50 PM EST
Algeria vs. Togo ESPN3 1/269:50 AM EST
Cote D'Ivoire vs. Tunisia ESPN3 1/2512:50 PM EST
Burkina Faso vs. Ethiopia ESPN3 1/259:50 AM EST
Zambia vs. Nigeria ESPN3 1/2412:50 PM EST
Niger vs. Congo Dr ESPN3 1/2410:00 AM EST
Ghana vs. Mali ESPN3 1/231:00 PM EST
Morocco vs. Cape Verde ESPN3 1/2310:00 AM EST
South Africa vs. Angola ESPN3 1/221:00 PM EST
Tunisia vs. Algeria ESPN3 1/2210:00 AM EST
Cote D'Ivoire vs. Togo ESPN3 1/211:00 PM EST
Nigeria vs. Burkina Faso ESPN3 1/2110:00 AM EST
Zambia vs. Ethiopia ESPN3 1/201:00 PM EST
Mali vs. Niger ESPN3 1/2010:00 AM EST
Ghana vs. Congo Dr


I haven't been able to watch because of the time differences and I don't really like replays. I'm going to try to watch the final Ethiopia match tomorrow during my prep period but I might not be able to stream it from my work log-in. From what I've read and heard, the highlight matches worth watching was South Africa v Angola which was a SA shootout in the first half followed by them shutting out Angola in the second. The Ethiopia-Zambia was good even with the low score because it was an excellent defensive game. Most of these games have been a bit hectic, not as precise as African soccer usually is, more ruff and tumble like an NFL game really. Hopefully in the next round folks get their bearings. Its kind of weird because usually I think all the best games are in the Group Stage where teams really both show off and also compete because of the variety of teams and players
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thanks! will check them out.
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so city in the next round, since we dispatched the Londoners with such ease i think we might have a go at city but will probably get thrashed. you never know though, stranger things have happened.
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It's a case of either 'another reason why the FA Cup is so special' or yet more ammunition for those who think too many teams now see it as a distraction so field second string sides (albeit still usually better than their full strength lower league opposition). No player makes FA Cup success a condition for moving to or staying at a club. Lower league clubs are now more than ever motivated by promotion to the next league or avoiding the drop to the one below. At the top level, CL qualification and the prem title is all (even the UEFA cup is generally seen by clubs as too great a strain on resources to really encourage them to participate) while those at the bottom half of the prem are in full on survival mode just trying to stay there. So for those, too, the FA Cup becomes a distraction. It's a competition that evokes more innocent times that've since been replaced by the logic of hard business. Every fan wants their side to win it but I suspect most would sacrifice it if they felt it hindered their chances in other areas. Seeing West Ham edge ever closer to the end of season relegation battle, I was quietly relieved when MU knocked us out, knowing we could ill afford the juggling act with our squad that'd be necessary to fight two battle fronts given how difficult we're finding it with just one. Or am I just being horribly cynical?

All the major league teams who lost had their best squads out so I don't think the managers were looking at it like a distraction.

For me it seemed like the 'smaller' teams had the bite and certainly more will to win and it showed.
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Point taken but whatever way you cut it, the FA Cup just doesn't mean as much now. Last year we had the situation of league games being played on the same day as the final. The FA Cup used to be the pinnacle of the season, our equivalent to the Superbowl. Now that pinnacle is the CL final, even if no English clubs are involved.
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England are playing Brazil in a friendly this Saturday. How many goals do you think Brazil will score, as England haven't a hope in hell of beating Brazil, let alone scoring any goals against the Samba Boys.
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so is the prem starting today again? i see a listing for a man u/ southampton match
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Old 01.30.2013, 10:35 AM   #2420
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The Prem started back up yesterday but there's games tonight, too. The big result yesterday was Man City drawing with QPR but most of the big teams are playing tonight.
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