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Old 11.07.2012, 05:21 PM   #2081
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i think it's to be expected that transitions will take some time & effort. so what was liverpool's system & standing on the table before this?


And not rely on 1 player to score the goals.
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Old 11.07.2012, 05:30 PM   #2082
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h8kurdt-- thanks man, most enlightening info. i'm new at this prem stuff and this helps understand the current dramas.

on a marginally related note, i really like dortmund because they kind of do it all-- touching/possession game (but very fast), parking the bus and counterattacking, long balls-- i can't believe the way weidenfeller didn't stop that free kick, aghhh. they would have beaten real madrid twice!!!
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Old 11.07.2012, 05:45 PM   #2083
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Yeah this is one of the annoying things of having neither Sky or decent internet-not being able to watch games as often i'd like. Especially games from Germany and Spain.
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Old 11.07.2012, 06:02 PM   #2084
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Same for me, although that's probably for the better. I'd just be watching it constantly.
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Old 11.10.2012, 08:58 AM   #2085
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BAYERN VS. FRANKFURT STARTS IN 30 MINUTES!!!

it's fucking gonna be epic. either a massacre or a battle to the death.

btw did anyone watcht he bayern/lille game this past week? 6-1!!! and dortmund-real madrid 2-2? in the bernabeu of all places? where dortmund was winning 2-1 with 2 minutes to go? hot damn.

okay. gotta go get ready to watch. this was a public service announcement.
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Old 11.10.2012, 01:06 PM   #2086
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Thanks. I found a stream of the Bayern-Frankfurt game. Hard to really comment on either side given there's clearly a gulf in class between them. Frankfurt were better than I expected, though. They never looked like winning but were unlucky at one point not to equalise. That could've made things a bit more difficult for Bayern who, I have to admit, look pretty formidable.
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Old 11.10.2012, 01:21 PM   #2087
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Happy with that! Holloway to Palace, definitely a good move for us

I kept an eye on their game today, in part because I do like Holloway but also cos I seem to have an entirely irrational hatred of Peterborough.
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Old 11.10.2012, 01:29 PM   #2088
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Thanks. I found a stream of the Bayern-Frankfurt game. Hard to really comment on either side given there's clearly a gulf in class between them. Frankfurt were better than I expected, though. They never looked like winning but were unlucky at one point not to equalise. That could've made things a bit more difficult for Bayern who, I have to admit, look pretty formidable.

if only robben could not miss so many chances, the fucker. im worried about boateng's injury because bayern is also missing bender in the back.

he is what h8kurdt was saying the other day about suarez. he needs hypnosis or something.

btw the dortmund/augusburg was similar except that reus can score. augusburg is in first place... for relegation!

man u/ aston villa gonna start but i won't have time to see it live. however-- looking forward to chelsea liverpool tomorrow! (yes it might be a massacre, but still...)
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Old 11.10.2012, 01:36 PM   #2089
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Liverpool invariably play well against big teams. It's the games they're expected to win but don't that tends to screw them. They may not beat Chelsea but I think it'll be very close.

And yeah, I agree with you about Robben. One of the most frustrating players I can think of.
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Old 11.10.2012, 06:41 PM   #2090
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I feel sick just thinking about Fellaini leaving Everton.
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Old 11.10.2012, 09:07 PM   #2091
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It's a real shame and another example of how impossible it is for any but the very richest of sides to try and build things long term when they're always faced with having to replace their best players. I'd love for Everton to really compete for a top four place but just as it looks possible this kind of thing inevitably happens.
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Old 11.11.2012, 12:16 PM   #2092
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Can't believe West Ham held on for the win today. A few seasons ago Newcastle would've buried us. For better or worse that was textbook Allardyce but 3 points feels bloody good.

 
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Old 11.13.2012, 03:56 PM   #2093
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Happy with that! Holloway to Palace, definitely a good move for us

Zaha!!!! Just watched some highlights of him. Fucking Hell!!!!
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Zaha!!!! Just watched some highlights of him. Fucking Hell!!!!
was just about to write a post about him!

I'm in 2 minds about him tonight.
I want him to start the game (which i dont think he will) or at least play an entire half. I think he is good enough and the thought of him on one wing and Rahim Sterling on the other wing is pretty damn exciting.
With all the press and hype around him right now it'll be good for him to go out and show what he can do.

But at the same time i want to protect him. I dont think he'll bottle it or freeze on the big stage, but it is very unusual for a player to be called up for the 1st time at the weekend and then play his 1st game 3 days later. I'd like him to get used to the England set up first (i gather the new training ground is a bit of a step up from Selhurst Park!) and be let in gently.
there is no need to rush him in and reading between the lines of what Roy Hodgson has been saying i gather his 1st 3 days as an England player haven't been all rosey

then again maybe thats for the best. He is fucking amazing and is full of confidence at the moment. I know Sweden will pose a different challenge to Peterborough but i think he's more than good enough to run rings round them
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Old 11.14.2012, 12:53 PM   #2095
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I tend to agree about wanting to protect him, although I don't think anyone will jump to conclusions about him if he freezes up tonight. For his sake, though, I want him to play solidly but unspectacularly to ensure the media don't get too carried away - which they obviously will if he does something silly like score a hat trick.
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Old 11.14.2012, 04:35 PM   #2097
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I tend to agree about wanting to protect him, although I don't think anyone will jump to conclusions about him if he freezes up tonight. For his sake, though, I want him to play solidly but unspectacularly to ensure the media don't get too carried away - which they obviously will if he does something silly like score a hat trick.

i've never seen this guy play but they were talking about him in teh news last night (yes, finally i get football news!)

is he really that good? if he's so good, why does he play for a 2nd-rate team?
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At this point it is just speculation. Every year or so a 'new saviour' emerges - last one was Oxlade-Chamberlain. Sometimes they come off but usually they don't. But Zaha looks like a genuine prospect.

As for him playing in a lower league, he's only 20 but does just seem to have passed under the radar, although I don't remember him playing this well in previous seasons - Sonicbebs is better placed to comment on that, though.

Anyway, Zlatan's final goal. End of story.
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Ibram...just incredible.
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is he really that good? if he's so good, why does he play for a 2nd-rate team?

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Palace have a pretty good youth accademy which regulalry produces decent young players. Recenty it has produced Victor Moses (Chelsea), Wayne Routledge (Swansea), Nathaniel Clyne (Southampton), Ben Watson (Wigan) and, err John Bostock (Tottenham?). And now Wilf

In England it's regular practise for lower division clubs to develop young talent, give them a couple of seasons of first team action only to see their boy snapped up by a big club with wads of cash and the lure of a premiership relegation battle.
It happens all the time. And we have been expecting Zaha to go for a long time now, it's just been a matter of when (january transfer window or end of season?)
suddenly we are playing fantastic football and are top of the league. people are whispering about promotion and our co-chairman has come out and said Zaha is not for sale. He'd rather keep him and get promotion (not that we're a 1 man team at the moment).
It's quite refreshing for us really

but he'll probably be sold to Wigan in January...
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