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Old 02.18.2016, 10:11 AM   #1
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Old 02.18.2016, 12:34 PM   #2
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Dude, the name of the uploader is AmericaFuckYeah. One look at the barrage of videos s/he uploaded should give one a good picture about his/her agenda. There is a lot of pro-military, pro-policing, anti-muslim, jingoism-laden sentiment among them. It's easy to take isolated cases and present them in a way that supposedly speaks for the bigger picture. But that's slanting a complex topic to your position's advantage. The uploader did not provide any links or sources in the video details. As such, it just stands as an isolated video meant to get people mad. Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
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Old 02.18.2016, 03:00 PM   #3
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Old 02.18.2016, 04:01 PM   #4
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I'm just asking.

I keep hearing about entire blocks outside of Paris that are out of bounds to the French Police, they just won't go there. What about the mass sex attacks in Cologne on new Years? And there seems to be lots of trouble in Sweden.

I wanted to hear from someone on the ground there.

That guy with the gun showed some serious restraint.
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Old 02.18.2016, 05:49 PM   #5
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It's not like that in London. Are the people in that video even 'Muslim Refugees' or just random thugs who are being dsignated as muslim because they are black? Most of the refugees coming to Europe at the moment are not black/african, they are Syrian, Iraqi, Libyan or Afghan.

There's been a lot of conflicting news reports about who commited the Cologne sex offences, some reports I've read are saying of the 50+ suspects only 3 are muslim. There's some far-right bullshit going on in Sweden at the moment, that true. But it's the same old story of people on the right, stirring up people's anxieties and spreading a bunch or half-baked untruths and then using it as an opportunity to go on some kind of flaccid rampage.
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Old 02.19.2016, 02:54 AM   #6
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There were also sex attacks in Finland in new year made by Iraqi men. Also there have been news about rapings made by immigrants. But still most of the rapes in Finland is made by common Finnish men, but news donīt tell anything about them. Also there was a case accusing a rape made by immigrant that was just bullshit.

At least the muslims I know in Finland want to live normal life and are not radical at all. The Main capital Helsinki is still very safe city, no-one has ever attacked me in the night time even recently. No bombs have ever blown here.

If I have understood correct, those attacks were in French for the reason French has fought against muslim radicals very actively outside French. Also I think there is something to do that how French goverment has long time treated immigrants.

I believe the western paranoia towards muslims causes much more troubles in the world as Islam itself.

Also I believe if there wasnīt as much poverty and also this world isnīt so unfair, there wasnīt any kinds of radical groups.

Also I might have a wrong picture (never been in US), but I believe itīs much more possible to get into violent action in US than in Europe these days.
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Old 02.19.2016, 10:22 AM   #7
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It's not like that but also not the rosy picture some would paint.
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Old 02.19.2016, 05:29 PM   #8
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That video is more like what people in Europe think the States are like. People going down the streets pointing guns at each other.
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Old 02.20.2016, 02:25 AM   #9
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The left, as per usual, are trying to pervert the facts by targeting the right with laughable, propagandist bullshit. The left have a pc agenda that pretty much makes one think they must be sleeper agents for extreme Islamist terrorist groups. Maybe the left are Isis secret weapon what with their apathetic, apologetic attitude towards the heinous crimes being committed by many refugees, unless the left believe rape to be a trivial matter? Such breathtaking hypocrisy.
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Old 02.20.2016, 06:49 AM   #10
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The right, as per usual, is thinking the left donīt see any problems in immigranting. Thatīs not true, I donīt know anybody who is thinking immigrants just bring good things to the country they arrive. Of course there are problems. People are coming from the countries where is war, they could be tortured, their country might not have any kind of administration for ages. Of course that causes problems and quite many immigrants needs lot of help from the countries they arrive (which they automatically donīt have).

The right, as per usual, seem to think there are anything else in immigrants than just problems. They refuse to see all those immigrants that I have seen everyday in my work. I mean those immigrants who do everything they can to be a part of the country they have arrived. They for example do hard work to learn this Finnish, not in anyway easy language.

About propaganda, I have heard my whole life that same propaganda that not seem to change in the centuries. "All immigrants are criminals, they got 10 000 euros from social care etc." It was the same in the nineties, it has been same these days. In the begin of 20th century KluKluxklan blamed Finnish immigrants who arrived in US that they are criminals and drunkers.
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Old 02.20.2016, 07:52 AM   #11
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And, the black&white thinking of ISIS is much more closer black&white thinking of the right than many colour thinking of the left. The politics of right just make ISIS stronger, I believe there are many Iragi men becoming bitter to the western countries after treating badly here and now coming back to Irag to join ISIS.
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Old 02.20.2016, 03:58 PM   #12
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It is far safer to be a Muslim in a European country than to be a non-muslim in an Muslim country.
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It is far safer to be a Muslim in a European country than to be a non-muslim in an Muslim country.

Like Indonesia?
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Thanks for linking us to another US supported foreign occupation, very relevant as to why so many "Muslim countries" are presently so destabilised and dangerous. Cheers!
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It is far safer to be a Muslim in a European country than to be a non-muslim in an Muslim country.
I have been in Ethiopia twice and both times havenīt had any safety problems there. Well, maybe itīs not a muslim country, but anyway muslims are majority there and muslims have been there for ages. Also, as far as I know, christians have disturbed muslims there some years ago.

Never been in Turkey, Morocco or Tunisia, but I have understood non-Muslim tourists never have had any problems there (yes, Tunisia may not be as safe country as it used to be).
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It is far safer to be a Muslim in a European country than to be a non-muslim in an Muslim country.

Try being a non-muslim in Syria or Iraq. Isis recently beheaded a 15-year-old for listening and enjoying pop music! Isis claimed pop music corrupts the heart! Mortte Jousimo wouldn't last 5 minutes, despite his "I love Muslims" rhetoric.
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I have been in Ethiopia twice and both times havenīt had any safety problems there. Well, maybe itīs not a muslim country, but anyway muslims are majority there and muslims have been there for ages. Also, as far as I know, christians have disturbed muslims there some years ago.

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I agree with you on a lot of things, but on this one you really need to learn your facts. The truth is, Ethiopia is LITERALLY the original Christian nation according to Acts 8:

26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.


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And as for today?

Per: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Ethiopia

"Religion in Ethiopia consists of a number of faiths. Among these mainly Abrahamic religions, the most numerous today are Christianity (Ethiopian Orthodoxy, Pentay, Catholic), followed by Islam. There is also a longstanding but small Jewish community. Some adherents of the Bahá'í Faith likewise exist in a number of urban and rural areas. Additionally, there are a few followers of traditional faiths, who mainly reside in the southwestern part of the country. According to the national census conducted in 2007, over 32 million people or 43.5% were reported to be Ethiopian Orthodox Christians, over 25 million or 33.9% were reported to be Muslim, just under 14 million, or 18.6%, were Protestant, and just under two million or 2.6% adhered to traditional beliefs.[1] Neither in the 2007 census, nor in the 1994 census, were responses reported in further detail: for example, those who identified themselves as Hindus, Jewish, Baha'i, agnostics or atheists were counted as "Other"."


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Thanks for linking us to another US supported foreign occupation, very relevant as to why so many "Muslim countries" are presently so destabilised and dangerous. Cheers!
Yes, as we all know the Islamic nations shared a long history of peace until the bloody Americans came along.
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Try being a non-muslim in Syria or Iraq. Isis recently beheaded a 15-year-old for listening and enjoying pop music! Isis claimed pop music corrupts the heart! Mortte Jousimo wouldn't last 5 minutes, despite his "I love Muslims" rhetoric.
I donīt love Islam. As a matter of fact I donīt love any religion even I am religious person (I mean I donīt belong into any religion and never will). I just know people (you seem to be same kind) who thinks every Muslim thinks like ISIS people. Thatīs not true. ISIS hates also Muslims that are not thinking like they. Me and my Muslim friend really doesnīt share all our opinions, but we still can accept each others as a human.

If you come to the any country where is war or the administration isnīt working (like Iraq) I think you donīt have a good time there. Also, there used to be two Christians fighting against each others in Great Britain & Ireland, but in that time at least in western countries no-one thought all the Christians are evil.

But I donīt think there is no reason to continue this, you are those people who needs enemies, you hate all the Muslims and I donīt think I can change that.
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