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Old 02.15.2018, 05:04 PM   #21
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that is true but these school shootings are not someone walking into a crowd and killing it is someone purposefully going from room to room shooting people. the fucker that killed the little kids in sandy hook for example. All these fuckers do know what they are doing and you are right, they are never portrayed as being rational, because we humans like to pretend we are all GOOD and that anything BAD or evil is a severe outlier.
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Old 02.15.2018, 05:31 PM   #22
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that is true but these school shootings are not someone walking into a crowd and killing it is someone purposefully going from room to room shooting people. the fucker that killed the little kids in sandy hook for example. All these fuckers do know what they are doing and you are right, they are never portrayed as being rational, because we humans like to pretend we are all GOOD and that anything BAD or evil is a severe outlier.

“because we americans” you mean. americans are always portraying everything in terms of “good” and “evil”.

most fucking manichaean nation on the planet. well, that i know of. everybody got the superhero morality in this place.

that’s why so many simples here think the solution to the gun problem is “a good guy with a gun”. because “good” solves everything. oh yeah it always triumphs. never makes mistakes. like gunsmoke. white hat vs black hat.god vs. satan. always clearcut.

LOL MURKA

other cultures see more shades of grey and don’t think in such absolutes. we need more immigrants.
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Old 02.15.2018, 08:14 PM   #23
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this is good fucking writing on the subject

http://wapo.st/2BtEVbH

sorry

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...e81_story.html
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Old 02.15.2018, 08:45 PM   #24
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Hey its the Bezos worshipping nameless one! Worship them corporatists much?
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Old 02.15.2018, 09:33 PM   #25
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hey it’s the paranoid moron worshiping the vacuum of his own asshole!

hey paranoid moron it’s been simply too short since you last left. checked yourself out of psychiatric care?
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Old 02.16.2018, 07:14 AM   #26
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Before you kids follow your masters down the rabbit hole to total servitude, maybe you should have the answer to the question - how many of these shooters were on psychiatric meds and which ones. It is a simple question.
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Old 02.16.2018, 09:34 AM   #27
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It's rarely, if ever, as simple as everyone wants it to be, or tries to dictate the narrative as being.
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Old 02.16.2018, 09:55 AM   #28
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It's rarely, if ever, as simple as everyone wants it to be, or tries to dictate the narrative as being.
read the elizabeth bruenig piece i linked above though. it’s really brilliant and not simple at all.
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Old 02.16.2018, 10:00 AM   #29
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You end up with 2 types, those who profit from the carnage, gun dealers and sellers, John McCain with 7.7 million$ from the NRA, then you got these other guys (not MANY girls) who have 0 fucking empathy. How were these guys raised to end up like that? They complain about video games and Hollywood movies and mental illness, yet can't see that their lack of empathy is a HUGE red flag..
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Old 02.16.2018, 10:07 AM   #30
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this is her opening paragraph:

Nothing symbolizes the foreclosure of the future like the slaughter of a nation’s young. And it’s so routine now — there have been at least eight this year at a school or college where someone was injured or killed — that attention will quickly fade, as it does with subjects one doesn’t intend to do anything about. Another word for that bitter fatalism is “defeat.”

keep reading. she eventually gets to the meat of things:

More acutely, each mass shooting calls into question the logic of the American project itself: Each time this happens, each time children turn up massacred on the evening news, the provision adduced to explain why we just can’t do anything to stop it is none other than the Constitution itself, the closest thing we have to civil holy scripture. Perhaps not the day of, but typically shortly after, ghouls will emerge to claim the whole thing is a fake, that it’s a ploy by the malevolent state to steal your constitutional rights. If any legislation is called for — if anyone even bothers at this point — industry advocates hired by the gun lobby will appear on television and in print, making their ardent case for an unqualified Second Amendment. And if any measure aimed at reducing these incidents actually makes it to Congress, the same approach will be reflected in so much demurral. Nobody will say the exact words “the foundational document of our government essentially requires that we suffer mass murder again and again with no recourse,” but that is what they will be telling you.

that, there—she nailed it
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Old 02.17.2018, 12:32 PM   #31
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I'm sad. Like, really sad. Can't shake it. I figured I'd be numbed to this stuff by now. Nope. A little angry, but mostly just feelings of defeat and depression.
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Old 02.18.2018, 07:23 PM   #32
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going to keep happening.
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Old 02.18.2018, 11:02 PM   #33
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Another word for that bitter fatalism is “defeat.”
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Old 02.18.2018, 11:03 PM   #34
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does the “impact” font even exist anymore? doesn’t register in my ipad...

any waze

we should be discussing that article instead of our own opinions cuz she’s smarter than us
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Old 02.19.2018, 12:39 AM   #35
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i mean look at her piece on repukes and “small government”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...e81_story.html

another bull’s eye. she’s fucking brilliant that’s what.

but anyway read her piece on guns, that i linked above. then reason FROM THERE.
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Old 02.19.2018, 06:13 PM   #37
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I have never heard any discussion about the problem of allowing the most stupid and depraved minds access to the internet. You'd never give them a nuclear weapon, but the same people who couldn't handle a hand calculator are given access to the internet and computers. They can do this hiding in a crowd or hiding in a basement. With bullying pieces of shit like !@#$%! and the Soup Nazi being the norm in america these days, it doesn't surprise me people go off and give the world a message.
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I have never heard any discussion about the problem of allowing the most stupid and depraved minds access to the internet. You'd never give them a nuclear weapon, but the same people who couldn't handle a hand calculator are given access to the internet and computers. They can do this hiding in a crowd or hiding in a basement. With bullying pieces of shit like !@#$%! and the Soup Nazi being the norm in america these days, it doesn't surprise me people go off and give the world a message.
edited: on second thought, you’re clearly mentally ill. arguing with you is a waste of time and only invites more insanity. gonna ignore you henceforth as the rest of the board does. have a nice life and please seek medical help.
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From Harpers Magazine:

In Parkland, Florida, a city ranked by the National Council for Home Safety and Security as the safest in the state, a 19-year-old man took an Uber to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, set off the fire alarm, and opened fire on students and faculty members, killing 17 people. The shooter discarded his AR-15 semiautomatic weapon, the model used in six of America's ten deadliest mass shootings and referred to by the NRA as "America's rifle," and then fled to a nearby Walmart, where customers can buy rifles and ammunition but cannot purchase music with lyrics that contain the word "fuck."
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the nra and paranoid right-wing ghouls are now trying to characterize the protesting survivors as paid actors.

their capacity for lies has no limits
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